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CNET to Award Open Source Initiatives

An anonymous reader writes "CNET's 2005 awards will for the first time include a category for Open Source Initiative of the Year. The winner will be announced at a gala dinner in London's swanky Park Lane Hilton in September. It's good to see such explicit acknowledging of the work being done by the open source community."

75 comments

  1. Apple And WebCore Should Win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They took a floundering open source project and really did something great with it.

    1. Re:Apple And WebCore Should Win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How funny that you say that. KDE has been doing great before and after. Next you will be suggesting that MS win some award for helping OSS. Well, actually, in a way they should. Ever time they FUD linux, it backfires on them.

  2. Park Lane Hilton by XanC · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    These names are getting weirder and weirder.

    Is she as slutty as Paris?

    1. Re:Park Lane Hilton by FireballX301 · · Score: 1

      Woo, woo, bad joke award goes to you!
      Probably would have been slightly funnier if, you know, the Park Lane Hilton was a person, instead of a, oh, I dunno, a HOTEL.

    2. Re:Park Lane Hilton by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      Yeah, especially considering that the original Paris was a man and would probably take offence to his name being given to a blond groupy...

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    3. Re:Park Lane Hilton by jd · · Score: 1

      Depends. If the hotel is owned by Cynthia Payne, then it would explain a lot.

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    4. Re:Park Lane Hilton by XFilesFMDS1013 · · Score: 1

      You know, tons of people enter into a hotel as well.

  3. The winner will also be invited to the dinner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To help prepare the meal, serve others and clean up after... for free, of course.

  4. Cute award by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Of course in the closed source world, the "prize" for success is cold hard cash.

    1. Re:Cute award by FireballX301 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Keep in mind, though, that working on OSS projects applies as 'experience'. If you're fresh out of school with the ink still wet on your CS degree, working for OSS for a while will most definitely get you a higher starting salary when you put it on your Resume.

      Unless you go to work for SCO or MS.

  5. Yipe by rbochan · · Score: 5, Funny

    And we all know what a bastion of OSS CNET/ZDNet is...

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    1. Re:Yipe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just another wholly ownded, subsidiary of Microsoft, Inc. I'm sure this will be objective...

    2. Re:Yipe by Burz · · Score: 1

      More like a bastion of Linux vs Windows trolling. Esp. the ZDnet side.

      Now add IE vs Firefox trolling to the list.

      They gotta get page hits somehow...

    3. Re:Yipe by metlin · · Score: 1

      That is more insightful than funny.

      It's almost like a me-too reaction. Looks like everybody is into Open Source, so let me also play the game and hopefully see how I can make it work for me.

      Besides, any publicity is good publicity right?

      If they went ahead and bashed OSS, folks would be up in arms. Now if they did something like this and bashed Open Source, folks would be confused, and some may even take them serious.

      Ooh, the conundrum.

    4. Re:Yipe by metlin · · Score: 1

      Oops, should have been seriously, not serious.

    5. Re:Yipe by NickFortune · · Score: 1
      Maybe you should open a book :D

      2-1 Fav - Microsoft Internet Explorer
      3-2 - Microsoft Word
      5-1 - Microsoft Media Plater (EU edition)
      50-1 - Firefox
      1000-1 Bittorrent
      200-1 bar

      Or something like that. Personally, I'm taking no bets...

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    6. Re:Yipe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the winner is.... Windows licensed under Microsoft's Shared Source Initiative

  6. Article Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Open Source Initiative of the Year Category

    Open source is becoming an increasingly important and accepted part of the enterprise technology landscape and, in many organisations, it is progressing from the edge-of-network servers into mission critical jobs in the datacentre and onto the desktop. This award aims to recognise the company, individual or group of individuals that has helped make this happen.

    You may have developed an application, or equally have lobbied for an important issue to help push open source forward. Whatever your initiative, the judges will be looking for evidence of both technical innovation and commercial potential.

    Judging Criteria:

    * Contribution to the community
    * Effectiveness
    * Commercial potential
    * Innovation

    Article text provided for easy reading and a vain attempt at staving off hordes of slashbots asking what counts as an initiative.

  7. Open source and gala dinner??? by OffTheLip · · Score: 1

    All I can think of is the timeless Graucho Marx line 'I wouldn't be a member of any country club that would have me as a member'.

  8. Gosh... who could be the winner? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Could it be Firefox and the Mozilla Foundation by chance? Sources say... yes.

  9. CNET?? by SleepyHappyDoc · · Score: 5, Funny

    What on Earth makes them think they are qualified to select the best Open Source Initiative of the year? Don't they own download.com, arguably the largest repository of crap-filled closed-source downloadables? This sounds like the Winston-Salem Environmental & Health awards...

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    1. Re:CNET?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So why don't you rent Park Lane Hilton for the night and present your own awards?

      That'll show'em.

    2. Re:CNET?? by ToasterofDOOM · · Score: 1

      *cough*PHILLIP MORRIS!!!*cough*
      excuse me

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    3. Re:CNET?? by Bazzalisk · · Score: 1

      Or like, say, a peace prize settup by the man who invented dynamite ...

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  10. Firefox by rkcallaghan · · Score: 1

    This would be a neat slashdot poll, but I think firefox is the clear winnner this year.

    ~Rebecca

    1. Re:Firefox by erick99 · · Score: 1

      I think you are correct. It may be too obvious though....

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  11. The blueprint design for the winner's trophy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...will be published under the GPL and will be awarded in leiu of an actual trophy or cash prize.

  12. Important to note by xanderwilson · · Score: 1

    from the rules:

    The Awards are open to all companies that have been trading in the UK for at least 12 months prior to the Awards deadline. In certain cases, companies that are nominated by third parties will be considered for the awards.

    1. Re:Important to note by NickFortune · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The Awards are open to all companies that have been trading in the UK for at least 12 months prior to the Awards deadline.

      So they may be giving money to open source, but none of that nsaty 'orrible community maintained nonsense.

      mmm...

      I wonder if the judges will deem participants in MS' shared source initiative as eligble to enter. More to the point, will projects whose only "openness" derives from signing a Microsoft NDA be considered eligible?

      Suppose one of MS shared source projects were to win this award, in the apparent, if illusory, face of such projects as Firefox and Apache. In some circles that might seem to add much needed credibility to the "shared source". I wonder how much that would be worth to Redmond?

      Purely speculation, of course.

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    2. Re:Important to note by xanderwilson · · Score: 4, Funny

      Given that the entry form is a Word doc download, speculate away.

      Alex.

  13. Re:checkin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Your patch is too small to be worth merging.

  14. Swanky? by panurge · · Score: 1

    The Park Lane Hilton is a very ordinary hotel. Anybody who describes it as swanky needs to get out more. Mind you, they used to do a good afternoon tea. Back in the 70s....
    Now Browns is a swanky hotel. And the Savoy was, once, before it was taken over. But, and I'm sorry to destroy anybody's fantasies, the London Hilton is about as swanky as Paris Hilton, and for much the same reason.

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    1. Re:Swanky? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The submitter was thinking of Paris Hilton.

    2. Re:Swanky? by BarryNorton · · Score: 2, Funny

      Know what you mean, but you could put it into perspective by visiting the Milton Keynes Hilton! After that shock you'll see why Park Lane is their 'flagship'...

    3. Re:Swanky? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      swanky as Paris Hilton, and for much the same reason

      An easily accessible service entrance?

  15. Any publicity ... by drsmack1 · · Score: 1

    is good publicity. I for one am not going to complain about some postive mainstream attention.

  16. Supporting... anonymously by sjbe · · Score: 4, Funny

    An anonymous reader writes ... good to see such explicit acknowledging of the work being done by the open source community.

    Good to see people willing to stand up and openly support open source...

    1. Re:Supporting... anonymously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, thats me ...

  17. I suspect that this Paris was a man, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She's got some funky boobs.

    Am I the only man on the planet who finds her unattractive?

    1. Re:I suspect that this Paris was a man, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously you haven't seen her 'ahem' video. She might have funky boobs but she's no man.

  18. that's what OSS needs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More half-wit inexperienced developers trying to make their mark.

  19. Useless by jd · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The criteria used are, well, useless. "Commercial potential"? How are you going to establish that? Porting JFS to Linux had zero commercial potential in itself, but has not only made IBM a recognized name (which has resulted in commercial potential in itself) but has likely helped make their mainframes that ship with Linux more compatiable with existing IBM systems (which also has commercial potential).


    Lustre, a great Linux network filing system, is selling for quite extraordinary sums of money - which means it undoubtably has commercial value and interest. The mailing list is fairly active and they are even organizing international meetings to cover it. Not bad for a project that is GPLed and is sufficiently far off the mainstream as to be considered esoteric outside the clustering world.


    However, that is exactly the point. Lustre IS esoteric, in many ways, and IS only really appealing to special interest groups, but is also unquestionably innovative and a commercial success. How on earth can you make a meaningful comparison of that with, say, Firefox that has zero commercial value, uses a lot of recycled components, but has triggered a massive level of awareness in both Open Source and software security?


    The two are both extremely significant, but significant in vastly different ways, and both are different again from the impact of porting JFS and XFS, which have both revolutionized the way IBM and SGI look at the hardware and software markets.


    So you have lots of different categories. But will those categories be meaningful? "Best new product" is a likely category, but is hardly informative and tells you nothing about how you would compare the vast range of different products that exist.


    On the other hand, if you split things up by what they do, you'd almost end up with one category per product, so everyone would end up winning on something, making an award a meaningless achievement.

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    1. Re:Useless by BlackIce_101 · · Score: 1
      Let's face it, the award is a meaningless token from cnet to the open source community in hopes that we'll stop disliking them, mosey over to download.com, and click on one or maybe even two of their banner ads.

      It costs them absolutely nothing to pick some random project and give it a $13 plastic trophy. Some assistant will probably pick the first piece of open source software that pops into his head and write a quick suckup speech which boils down to:

      blah blah blah... changing the world for the better... blah blah... raising the bar... blah blah blah blah... tremendous innovation... blah blah... we all wish we could be like you, it's just that you have such ridiculous notions... blah...

      then all will be smiles and clapping and we'll all die a little inside..

      On the other hand, as has been mentioned, publicity is always good no matter how trite the reason. My advice? CARPE DIEM OPEN SOURCE!!!

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    2. Re:Useless by xintegerx · · Score: 1

      Porting JFS to Linux had zero commercial potential in itself, but has not only made IBM a recognized name,

      This is where I stopped reading. /. is a riot! :)

    3. Re:Useless by jd · · Score: 1
      For a long time, IBM's name almost ceased to exist outside of the mainframe sector. OS/2 was a flop, the PS/2 a disaster, even the standard IBM PCs were expensive and slow. They lost something like 15 billion in one quarter, I seem to remember.


      When an explorer "discovers" a village in the Amazon, clearly the inhabitants were perfectly well aware that it existed, but it still counts as a discovery.


      In this case, IBM had largely vanished into the mainframe market, contracted violently after some crippling quarters and the loss of a lot of Government work, and had largely become a has-been.


      In the Open Source world, it was largely unknown, as they had previously been rather protective and secretive about their systems.


      Developments, such as helping with the Apache project, the opening of JFS, etc, changed a lot of that.

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  20. Mainstream by maelstrom · · Score: 1

    It's clear that Open Source is becoming more mainstream by the day. I think there has to be some admission that the coined term of OpenSource does beat out "free software" from a marketing and appeal to general public.

    Good job!

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    1. Re:Mainstream by Moth7 · · Score: 1

      That would be because they're two different things. Open Source isn't the same as Free software, regardless of where you're standing.

    2. Re:Mainstream by ninjaz · · Score: 1

      It might help to keep in mind that Open Source began as a marketing campaign for Free Software. The point was to foster use by business by creating a more distinguishing name than "Free Software", which most people misinterpret as meaning low-quality shareware/adware/freeware.

      It looks like the GP was pointing out that even "Open Source" and the OSI have seen their share of controversy, the name been very successful at getting Free Software to be used by both business and regular people.

      It's a similar concept to the "hacker" vs. "cracker" debate, but this time, ESR got to be on the winning side the linguistic engineering effort.

  21. Finally a chance to handle over subpoena in person by bohemian_observer · · Score: 0

    Thats GOOD NEWS even for corporate patent hedged software houses. An unusual chance to see that long wanted and cloaked person that will crawl into the daylight to claim the price. May be a police officer should be there also and assists during the ceremony, so the possible convict will have no chance to escape.

  22. Haveing CNET involved, and holding it at by Noogie+Brown · · Score: 1

    a nice hotel seems far too corporate for anything relating to open source. Surely this goes against what the open source software community really stands for.
    For open source award to have any real merit it would have to be run by the community somehow, and voted for by people in the community who have their finger on the pulse of what's going on and who's doing great things.

    Having said that, the attention it may bring could help to push open-source software (eg firefox).into the home of the average person. Although now I'm thinking about it, maybe that isn't beneficial to the community.

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    1. Re:Haveing CNET involved, and holding it at by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree and will have my alternative open source awards held at the local dump with winners receiving a 5% off the purchase of $100 and higher to the local CompUSA. All open source developers are welcome, this will be definitely non-corporate.

  23. Who died and made CNET... by krbvroc1 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'm sorry, but what qualification does CNET have to bestow open source software awards? I imagine this is just a way to put OSS marketing hype on closed source products so the lastest version of MS Office (because it uses XML) can put a CNET OSS Most Innovative Award 2006.

    This would be like Microsoft awarding a Freedom to Innovate award each year.

    1. Re:Who died and made CNET... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry, but qualifications do you have to decide who has qualifications and who does not to bestow open source awards?

  24. Scroll down a bit... by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    the Slashdot story on Summer of Code sholud still be there.

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  25. proprietary entry form by AndreyFilippov · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To submit an entry for the "Open Source Initiative of the Year" you have to fill out MS word (entry_form_2005.doc) file.

  26. Hilton? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The winner will be announced at a gala dinner in London's swanky Park Lane Hilton in September. It's good to see such explicit acknowledging of the work being done by the open source community."

    Imagine that, something explicit happening at a Hilton.

  27. F/OSSey Awards anyone by zappepcs · · Score: 1

    I can see it now, the F/OSSey awards, sponsored by Cheetos and Jolt cola.... Broadcast live on public access television and bittorrent (of course) with a counter in the lower right corner that counts the number of not-paid-for downloads since the broadcast started..... Hooray

  28. Who are the nominees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sweet! Let's go download some Free Open Source programs from download.com!

    Wait - I can't! There aren't any! Not even an acknoledgement that this type of software exists :(

    Hmm. Should be a packed awards ceremony.

  29. huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Paris Hilton is coming to London?

  30. Why not Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why doesn't Slashdot do something like this? There's no reason that it couldn't hold just as fancy an award reception, get media attention, etc... and with Slashdot readers doing the picks the award winners might just half-deserve some recognition, unlike the tools CNET is likely to pick.

  31. I'd recommend gcc be entered in, seeing how much software wouldn't be here today without it. Sadly, it'll be the Han Solo award all over again.

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  32. It's quite sad... by inflex · · Score: 1

    That the entry form is in MS Office DOC format :-(

    Come on guys, how about PDF or plain HTML.

  33. XBMC deserves it. by AugstWest · · Score: 1

    Man, what an incredible application from the open source community. Plus it turns an evil little box in the living room into the home media center that every electronics company has been chasing for what, 10 years now?

    Check it out. I'm not on the team, I've got no vested interest in promoting it, I just think it's one of the coolest OSS things I've seen in ages.

  34. neighborhood is swanky... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    as the pretty things of Knightsbridge are legendary, as we all know.

    The hotel itself, alas, is a tad ordinary.

  35. Jeez... by chrisd · · Score: 2, Interesting
    And they have no sponsors and no judges. Good luck on this one CNet, did you really mean to launch this now? This smells like a premature launch to me. My advice: Pull the page and relaunch when you have the lists populated.

    I've been down this road before, it ain't pretty.

    Chris

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    1. Re:Jeez... by Quantum+Jim · · Score: 1

      This smells like a premature launch to me.

      He was a fool to leave now. You mean... Yes, premature ejection. :-o
      (source)

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  36. Another Free Software Award by wehe · · Score: 1

    You may still nominate Free Software projects for the TuxMobil GNU/Linux Award 2005.

  37. litmus test by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    If you can't read the file you can't nominate ooOffice.

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