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Free Upgrade From XP Home to XP Pro Lite

Novus writes "The Register reports that many of the features of Windows XP Pro, such as Remote Desktop and user management, can be enabled in Windows XP Home simply by changing two bytes in an installation data file. Another explanation can be found here."

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  1. Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illegal? by Novanix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you are so bent on having the pro features and are willing to copy all the files off the CD, hack it, and then re-burn it (not to mention making sure not to screw up the bootable ability of the CD), why not just download Windows XP Pro? Both are illegal(take a look at the EULA), and downloading is easier and will still allow you to upgrade to SP2.

  2. SP3? by kc32 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I see a Service Pack 3 coming soon for XP Home.

  3. crippleware by FidelCatsro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I thought Crippleware died out years ago , aparently not.

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    1. Re:crippleware by Lisandro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Heh, guess you haven't tried software lately...
      Or cellphones...
      Or digital cameras...
      Or minidisc players...
      Or DVD players...

      (...)

  4. Re:Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illeg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    EULAs are dubious.

  5. Re:Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illeg by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The EULA is not proven in court , however copyright law is .

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  6. Re:Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illeg by BitterOak · · Score: 2, Insightful
    As far as I know (IANAL) EULA violations are civil matters, whereas copyright violation is a criminal matter. Either can get you into trouble, but I'm not sure it's fair to say "it's just as illegal".

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  7. Re:Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illeg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Uh, no... You don't "own" the software on that CD. You license it, and if you're not licensed to use certain features then you are breaking just as many laws as copying the CD.

  8. WTF? The Register reports? by lonesometrainer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok, yes in fact they do... somehow. They credit the c't magazine in their first sentence for the report. Shouldn't the editor also credit heise (c't) for that?

    Or will we see some RSS-IT-news channel being credited for everything interesting in the near future?

  9. another fine example.. by Paralizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    of Microsoft's business tactics. Not that I blame them, from a business standpoint why have one product when you can have two with none of the extra work? Personally though, I don't agree with selling two versions if the difference is apparently so small, once the public learns of the tricky afoot it's not good publicity for the company (like they need anymore of it).

  10. Win Activation by HermanAB · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A two byte hack to get rid of Winblows activation would be more useful...

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  11. Re:Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illeg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, the industry tricked you into believing that line of shit, but I ain't falling for it.

    I'll modify MY purchase in any way I like, thank you.

  12. Re:Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illeg by benjamindees · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'll believe that argument when you show me a music CD with an EULA. Until then, there's such a thing as fair use. And using software for which you've paid still fits that bill.

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  13. Yes... by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 1, Insightful

    But I'd hardly call it an upgrade, unless windows is being overwritten by a real OS. Upgrade from windows to OSX, upgrade from windows to BSD, upgrade from windows to linux...

    This is like a samegrade.

  14. Re:Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illeg by slavemowgli · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, copyright violation is a civil matter as well.

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  15. Re:Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illeg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If you really belive that, I suggest you try it and then send a letter to MS telling them what you've done and see what happens. Or perhaps the line of shit is yours.

  16. Re:Creative journalism by scupper · · Score: 1, Insightful

    absolutely. This whole article is total BS.

  17. Re:Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illeg by sangreal66 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Actually, copyright violation is a civil matter as well.
    Not always..
  18. Re:Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illeg by ahdeoz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hidden conditions are illegal in a contract, as are unnegotiable terms, changing terms, terms that violated enunicated rights, and just about everything else in an EULA. Hence, an EULA is not a legal contract.

  19. So... by EMIce · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do the slashdot editors think that all information should be considered like the information in radio waves? That once the information comes your way, you can do with it as you please? This would view would make cracking a shareware program perfectly ethical, if we are to believe the slashdot editors are ethical.

    How about legality? Any lawyers reading this?

    1. Re:So... by Luke-Jr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe the Slashdot editors recognise that people have natural rights to modify and share information. Once you know something, nobody has the right to tell you what you can or cannot do with it.

      Just because it is illegal does not mean you should obey such unjust laws.

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    2. Re:So... by EMIce · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Thanks for the lengthy and well reasoned response. I wasn't aware of the legal grey area with respect to cracks. I suppose if there were a bona fide contract rather than an EULA saying that this implementation can only be used in certain ways, it would be more enforceable.

      I think a lot of posters are getting mixed up in the legal vs. contractual intellectual property issues here. If an EULA is no less "sneaky" than a regular contract, then why in principle should it be ignored?

      The only explanation I see is that at the base of these arguments justifying the cracking of crippleware is a thinly veiled implication that copyright itself is an abomination. One must ignore copyright to justify this behavior, because one needs copyright in the first place to dole out limited versions of those rights via contract.

      Those who take this route must realize that even the GPL is a contract based in the fact that someone originally owns copyright to the work. It does not transfer ownership into the public demain but rather grants specific freedoms on the basis that certain usage conditions are met. Basically, if you don't like the rules, don't use it, but feel free to go write your own implementation.

      So next time some company "borrows" GPLed code and doesn't release the code changes they incorporated into their binary, think about how instrumental copyright is in enforcing GPL.

      And people, please don't be fascist and jump on me with abusive responses. I am only exploring ideas, not advocating the enforcement of them. I myself am not convinced of the need for copyright, but am not studied enough to draw firm conclusions. The point is to spark open and reasoned discussion in the face of doubt.

  20. Re:Two things. by nxtw · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I just integrate SP2 into the install disc; problem solved.

    VNC is far better? *cough* RDP has a ton of features missing in VNC, such as:

    • Sound support
    • Automatic color depth and resolution changing support
    • Remote printer/serial port access
    • Client file access
    Remote Desktop is also much speedier. Even with the latest, greatest, fastest version of VNC, Remote Desktop is still much more responsive. On Windows XP, you can even use a certain file from an old Service Pack 2 beta and support multiple remote users on the same machine.

    and the eaiest way I've found to avoid getting "crap" is to not run as administrator. *poof*, no more problems. I'm surprised more people haven't figured that out yet.

  21. Integrating SP2 "too much trouble for most users"? by InvisiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful
    There is one big drawback, though. Users won't be able to install Service Pack 2, unless they integrate SP2 in the installation CD. And that's probably too much trouble for most users, who of course are better off buying a legal version anyway.
    WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe /integrate:C:\WindowsCDFiles

    Yeah, that's way harder than using regedit to modify install files and copying the boot sector of the install CD to a new one...

    Sincerely,
    Your friendly neighborhood slipstreaming advocate

  22. Not even slightly dead by jfengel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not like it's easier on Adobe to make differerent, variously crippled versions of Photoshop. It's actually more work. They do it because it works for their shareholders: you sell a basic version with features disabled for $x, and make users pay for more features. Yeah, it's the same cost to them to print a CD either way, but the price of things is ALWAYS set by what people are willing to pay, not by what it costs you to make.

    At least in the non-free software world. Rather different economics there.

  23. Re:false advertising by gzunk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No it's not false advertising at all.

    It's like buying a ford advertised has having the power of a V6, and then finding out that the way ford made it was by turning off two cylinders of a V8.

    You still have a V6 - it's just been implemented as a { V8 - 2 } rather than a { V6 } itself - but the end result is the same.

    As for your lawsuit statement regarding appleshare clients - complete nonsense. You can't sue someone for not providing something that you weren't entitled to.

  24. Re:false advertising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This isn't really false advertising. First off, you really don't "buy" software. You buy a licence to run the software, and the "pro" and "home" versions are basically different licences for running different functions of the software. At least that's what Microsoft's lawyers will probably contend. A car is not the same thing as a piece of software, so I won't even get into that. And the reason that Apple doesn't have a pro version? They don't have a big enough market share to warrant splitting the product line and competing against themselves. Do you think that "millions" of users even know what these features are? Okay, once they hear "advanced security features" I guess they probably will be breaking down the door on that one. Even if they don't know what they do.

  25. Re:Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illeg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's because Big Money doesn't like what you're doing. It's a threat to their source of income. Therefore they lobby (bribe) officials to make such action illegal.

    The whole game is corrupt. Why anybody has any respect for it anymore is beyond me.

  26. Re:false advertising by 10101001+10101001 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Intel did the same thing with 486SX processors (turning of the FPU, though I've heard part of this was the frequency of bad FPUs) and the 487 (a 486DX that turns off the 486SX). Intel and AMD do it all the time when they underclock chips to meet demand. False advertising would be lying what the product is available to do, not what the product is capable of doing. So, as much as it might seem scummy to only have a two byte difference to differentiate products, it'd be legal. Of course, it sounds like some programs are left off of the XP Home CD, so it's a bit more than two bytes for the whole thing.

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  27. Encourage readers to steal. Great job editors! by Beatlebum · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can someone explain the difference between hacking XP Home to turn it into XP Pro and downloading a warez copy? Is one slightly less wrong than the other?

    Alternatively swing by Best Buy and steal a copy.

  28. It does not shock me by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    after all, Microsoft did that with NT Server and NT Workstation. Andrew Schulman had shown that with a few registry tweaks, NT Workstation could be turned into NT Server quite a long time ago. It even fooled server programs like MS SQL Server, Exchange, SNA Server, etc that they were running on NT Server. The only big difference were the support files found on NT Server that NT Workstation did not have.

    If someone looks at it hard enough, they can find registry tweaks to turn XP Starter Edition into a non-crippled version. It might resemble XP Home then. Then apply the XP Home tweaks to turn it into an XP Pro Lite type OS.

    When you think about it, Microsoft keeps the kernels the same, but makes changes to the registry and support files. Tweak the registry, and you may be able to overcome limitations.

    The IP connection limit is built into the TCP/IP stack of XP, but most P2P networks have a modified version that allows the user set their own number of connections, like say 100. I am sure that is against the EULA, but people run it anyway.

    The more crippled Microsoft makes an OS, the more people will discover or find or invent a way around the crippling. Take DRM for example, people have already found ways around it, the new DRM on an Intel chip just makes it more of a challenge for people to find a way around it. Most likely someone will find or invent a way to fool the DRM functions that files are legit, via software or something.

    Microsoft refuses to understand that it must meet the customers' needs, and that making a system more complex or trying to lock it down more, only upsets the customer. They will either seek underground methods to get around the limitations, find an alternative, use an older version of software/hardware, or just learn to suffer with it. In any case, it causes Microsoft bad PR, and a bad reputation.

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  29. Cut the cord, security enabled. by Khyber · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anybody that wants a secure and stable system won't have that computer hooked up to the internet, period

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  30. Re:Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illeg by iminplaya · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So what you're saying is...

    You, too are missing the point. All that info is there for me to see before I make any transaction. I make an agreement with the person selling the gas before I buy. He's not going to come back afterword to tell me I can't siphon off the gas in my car to put into another car. And he sure can't tell I'm not allowed to put additives to give me better milage(if that were possible). If he did, I would indeed tell him to fuck off. The EULA is hidden away until after the purchase. That's like a taxi driver not telling me the rate until I arrive at the destination(in which case, I would pay what I think is fair). That's why I ask "how much?" before I get in the cab(they don't use meters here). But that was a nice attempt at misinterpretation on your part. Either way, once I'm in possession of something I bought, it's mine to do with as I please.

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  31. Ethics by Truth_Quark · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Situation 1:
    An entity sells an operating system. After purchasing the operating system, taking it home, opening the package and inserting the media into their computer they are informed that they must agree to an EULA, which is then presented on screen in such a way as nearly all people don't read it.
    Some of the patches that are automatically installed by this entity on the purchaser's computer change the EULA.

    The Purchaser uses the product in such a way as to not comply with the EULA

    Ethical question: Is the purchaser simply stealing, are both parties at fault, or has the producer of the operating system tainted their hands, so that the purchaser's actions are justifiable?

    Situation 2:
    An entity steals an operating system from the late great Kildall. Using illegal practices to force their (and only their) stolen operating system on consumers, and abusing their monopoly to the extent that consumers pay so much above what would be market value in a competitive environment that the CEO of the entity becomes the unassailably richest man in the world. The entity is convicted of abusing the monopoly, but has become powerful enough that they can manipulate the penalty, and continue to practice in an illegally anti-competitive manner.

    A person purchases a product from this entity, and pays for it.

    Ethical question: Is paying for the product ethical, given that it increases the money and power of the criminal entity? Or is stealing the only conscionable way to acquire the products of this entity?

  32. Does this even violate the EULA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I can't find anything in the EULA that prohibits modifing the software. Usually it's under the reverse engineering section, but it's not there:

    4. LIMITATIONS ON REVERSE ENGINEERING, DECOMPILATION, AND DISASSEMBLY. You may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the Software, except and only to the extent that such activity is expressly permitted by applicable law notwithstanding this limitation.

  33. Does the DMCA define your ethics? by argent · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can someone explain the difference between hacking XP Home to turn it into XP Pro and downloading a warez copy?

    The former only became illegal when the DMCA was passed. The DMCA makes a lot of previously legal and still necessary actions illegal, so the fact that it's illegal under the DMCA is by itself irrelevant to the morality of the act. So it comes down to the morality of boosting the performance of a factory-crippled product. You can buy products for doing that at any auto-parts store.

    The latter? XP Pro includes software that isn't included in XP Home. Even if you bought a copy of XP Home you're not entitled to that. But if Microsoft sold you more than they claimed they did, and you can turn that extra software on?

    Violating a EULA may be illegal, but I'm not going to call it unethical.

  34. Re:Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illeg by jerde · · Score: 1, Insightful

    There are plenty of examples of cripple-ware. Mail servers are a good example: the communigate pro mail server software scales from 10 to 1,000,000s of accounts... all that's different is the license key enabling the larger number.

    So you're saying that if you buy the cheap, small version, and they give you a license key that "cripples" their software for you by limiting it in its features, it should be just fine for you to steal by using a fake or hacked key to get past their protection!?

    It is still stealing.

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  35. Re:Why not just download XP Pro, its just as illeg by the+argonaut · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He's right and you're right. That's because copyright violation is both a criminal and civil violation.

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