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Archos Widescreen PMP

An anonymous reader writes "Archos has just announced their newest portable audio/video player the AV 700 Mobile DVR. The new unit has a 480x234 pixel widecreen display, a hub to record from TV and DVD, and offers a 100GB drive. The sucker is heavy though weighing in at over a pound. Cost is $799 for the 100GB model and $599 for the 40GB. MP3 Newswire also has Part 1 of its MP3 players for summer. Most interesting are Creative's new Neeon and a high end unit from Bose."

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  1. Bad Size... by ThomasFlip · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If people want to listen to music, the will want something smaller, if they want to watch video, they will want something bigger. I personally don't think that combining a portable audio/video player is a good idea or will sell well.

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    1. Re:Bad Size... by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 5, Funny

      maybe i can install one in my car so i don't have to pay attention to stupid traffic. that would be awesome.

    2. Re:Bad Size... by bfields · · Score: 2, Insightful
      If people want to listen to music, the will want something smaller, if they want to watch video, they will want something bigger.

      Yeah, would someone who has one of these portable video players explain what they're actually *for*?

      I can see that a DVR that you can occasionally carry from one place to another might be nifty.

      But I can't see it for, say, watching movies on the commute--anything that fits in my pocket is going to be too small to watch.

    3. Re:Bad Size... by Fringe · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Maybe, maybe not. I'm considering one for a different set of uses:
      • Carry around a large HD with archives of my various systems
      • Be able to play any of my large CD library tunes in my car, wife's car or rental car (using FM Modulator)
      • As a PVR when travelling, for playback of recorded content in the hotel room (e.g. exercise videos, favorite shows)
      • Long intercontinental flights, since the movies only change monthly and I often flight more often than that.
      Sure, it's no iPod replacement, but do we really need another iPod replacement? The AV700 would be more useful for my needs, which don't include jogging or lots of normal walking with it.
  2. I want a better screen by maynard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't want to spend $800 on a portable display device that doesn't render at least 480p DVD quality. The specs listed are ambiguous. It says that there's a doc station for pass through to a VCR. Does this mean that its only external output is composite? If so - yuck. I expect at least component, and preferably also DVI/HDMI. And why would I want to carry 100GB of disk space on a portable if it won't output true 480p? Never mind that disk space like that is appropriate for HD as well.

    So, my opinion: nice toy; waste of money. --M

  3. It weighs 0.6kg by MarkByers · · Score: 2, Informative

    For those of us not from the US that con't be bothered to type 20.8oz in kg in Google.

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  4. You know you're a geek when... by BBrown · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... you think a pound is heavy.

  5. Re:A better Archos model is the PMA400 by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The question when thing start costing this much is if your better off with a laptop , the machine is smaller , lighter and has a larger hard-drive than most laptops in that that price range .
    Though it lacks a keyboard , the screen is smaller and it cant directly play DVDs .
    I can see the thing being highly hackable if it runs linux but i doubt it would ever have as many features as a laptop .

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  6. So why not buy a notebook? by enosys · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You could buy a new notebook PC for the same price. You can do a whole lot more with it and it has a bigger screen and better image quality. You also won't have to worry about getting video to a format that is readable by the device. The notebook would almost certainly be able to play DVDs and you can install whatever codecs you need.

    I guess the only good things about devices like this is that they're smaller and come pre-configured for their task.

  7. About the MP3 gear in second article by cojsl · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Thoughts on the 2nd linked article on MP3 players: 1. The Bose is CD based. Bose really doesn't get it. The extra time, effort, and waste of making a CD every time to change the music selection is too much of a hassle vs. flash and hdd players. 2. The Maxfield Diablo plays OGG, neat.

  8. Re:Heavy but fragile? by wootest · · Score: 2, Funny

    From the weight of it, I'd be more worried about the unit breaking your pocket.

  9. From the article: by lidocaineus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Bose is all about the quality of sound (as opposed to Bang and Olufsen who are all about style and exclusivity).

    As soon as I read that, I knew these people know nothing but marketing hype.

  10. I've got the AV300 by SkyFire360 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've owned the JBMM20 and the AV300 - the great-grandfather and grandfather of the AV700 - and I have to say that they're amazing pieces of technology. They run embedded firmware on the DSC25 that is compatible with linux so you can run Linux on it if you really want. The video playback on the AV300 is stunning, even at 352x240 resolution: you can read subtitles clear as day. It has decent quality sound (much better if you get a nicer pair of headphones like the Seinnheiser HD280 Pro), a bright lcd screen and 3-4 hours of video playback on the "Low Brightness" option which ironically is quite bright still. Oh yeah... and it plays DiVX

    For anyone that's interested, don't even think about getting the bigger harddrive model. Both old and new models use standard 3.5" laptop harddrives, which means you can buy one off of PriceWatch and slap it in there. Just format it with a FAT boot sector first and you're good to go.

  11. better than laptop by Charbax · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How come 75% of the posts in here say that it's better to buy a laptop.

    The Archos Pma430 is 600$, just search it on froogle.

    Archos has a deal with Echostar in US to market all their Gmini400, AV400 and AV700 in special packages, maybe rebranded as PocketDish. This is interesting because Echostar will probably give away this portable video player/recorder just for getting new customers over from the DirecTV/Tivo users.

    The Archos players are approximately same price as an iPod anyways, so stop saying that it's better to have a laptop, then you should say that the iPod is the same price as a laptop, and then anyways all Archos devices are much cooler than iPods.

    Specially the Pma430 which is a fully hackable Linux embarqued with touch-screen, wifi, usb-host and still has all the portable video recorder/player full DivX compatibillity (dvd-resolution simple profile + b-frames + vbr-mp3)

  12. Uh, yes, it IS widescreen by definition. by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 4, Informative

    Excuse me? This unit gives a screen aspect ratio of 2.05:1. This is about 15% wider than widescreen TVs, which have an aspect ratio of 16:9 or roughly 1.78:1. So, it is not "somehow" widescreen -- it is widescreen. Whoever modded you as "insightful" needs to be modded "-1 clueless".

    Oh, great. Now this unit will give the anti-widescreen crowd a reason to bitch about why 16:9 movies have the black bars in the sides. Wonderful. :)

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  13. So close, yet so far. by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 2, Informative

    "One significant problem that we found in our reviews of their players is that most movie files available online are in formats not readable by the Archos, requiring them to be laboriously converted before they could play on their devices."

    If Archos would like to expand its marketshare (and survive the onslaught by Sony and, eventually Apple), they need to address this fundamental flaw with their PMP line of players.