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Comparing Linux and BSD, Diplomatically
Joe Barr writes "Talk about a red-button issue. How do you compare Linux and the BSDs and keep the debate from turning into a friendly-fire flame-fest nightmare between bigots on both sides of the line? Linus Torvalds once handled a similar situation by wearing a BSD beanie at USENIX while delivering a Linux talk. Now he tries it again in this interview on NewsForge ."
Easy, you just compair them to Microsoft and the Linux and BSD bigots will unite.
CS: It is all sink or swim...oh and did I mention there are sharks in that water?
So what? Everyone knows windows blows both of them out of the water as far as viral whoring goes. Try that with wine.
The days of the digital watch are numbered.
Linux or BSD? I don't care...
As long as you use vi (and not Emacs).
The Internet is full. Go Away!!!
Personally, I find it hilarious that there's a standard anarchy symbol....
Just junk food for thought...
oranges.
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To summarise the summary: I daren't say anything.
I've never used BSD, but from what I've heard in the local LUG, it's lousy, and I can say from my experience as a Linux user that Linux is a lot better!
It's quite easy.
Purchase 1x Tux Plushie, 1x Daemon Plushie, fill them both with audio tapes of associated OS zealot's verbal spew, put them down and press play. Whichever one's batteries run out first wins the debate.
Simple, no?
The easy part was getting the brain out, but the hard part was getting the brain out.
How do you compare Linux and the BSDs and keep the debate from turning into a friendly-fire flame-fest nightmare between bigots on both sides of the line?
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How, easy. You just simply acknowledge the superiority of BSD up front and get that out of the way first. The following conversations go a lot smoother then
ducks and runs for cover
This is easy. Linux is cool because it has an X in it. Everyone knows Xs are cool. (Of course, Linux would be cooler if they capitalized the X, but that's a minor point.)
On the other hand, BSD is cool because it has a hot chick.
Both are valid attributes and neither side should feel bad.
If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
apples damn it...
next you'llbe telling me emacs is better than vi.
for the last time people, I am "frodo from middle eaRTH", not "middle eaST".
Fool! Netcraft has confirmed, apples are dying.
Given a choice between free speech and free beer, most people will take the beer.
Wow. Amazing. Linus has managed to speak to another human being in paranthesis. What happened here, was he talking one minute verbally and then transmitted his thoughts to the interviewer through some Jedi'ish mind trick?
I knew Torvalds had to be an alien. I just knew it.
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I make it shorter...here's a quote from the article:
"The world simply isn't black-and-white, and I recognize a lot of grayness. I often find black-and-white people a bit stupid, truth be told."
Basically, what Linus is saying here is
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes"
Everyone who cares about the details knows Linux is light years ahead of solaris in every respect that matters to people of this century and not the last.
Look at Linux's vast array of scheduling algorithms. See how Linux's capabilities thrash Sun's pathetic security model into the ground. Checkout the triangles/sec and blit rate in Quake2.
OK?
But what is more fun. Is if you post a message that can really rial them up. Like saying all the things you can do in windows that you can't do in Linux, or Dissing on Stallman. You can get hate responces as far as the bowser scrools. and you comments and Modded down into boliavian. I am sure some of them are people who are tring to egg me on from the other side, and have some fun at my expense. But still it is a lot of fun.
Some of my favorate Instults.
"Tie Wearing Sheeple." (Although I only wear a tie like once ever 3 months or so)
"poorly argued rant simply demonstrate that you are a close minded jerk of lower than average intelligence that no amount of college could help." (Ohhh good comeback, If my argument was so poorly argued why didn't he just give reasons.)
"Windows loving fananic" (although I normally run Linux, Solaris or OS X)
If they were just a little bit more moderated they would live happier lives. Because every other thing out there that could be more popular then their choice wont make then annoyed. I know I use to be an Open Source Zealot then I relized ill just be happier if I wasn't
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
You registered a new account just for that post, didn't you?
Yes, goddamit.
next you'llbe telling me emacs is better than vi.
Well, you have to admit... emacs is a much better operating system...
A: I don't know, man. It depends what you mean by "better."
Q: Okay, then, why is it BSD used to be better?
A: Was it? I was busy not noticing.
Q: So you prefer Linux?
A: Um. Yes. Are you an idiot?
Q: Why do you think BSD and Linux are two different operating systems?
A: Probably because they start at different places in the alphabet. Are we done here? (points) Hey, look, there's Tanenbaum! Go ask him why writing a Unix kernel from scratch is impossible!
Q: Thank you for your time. Tune in Wednesday as we ask the BSD leaders why they insist on using one-button mice.
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Look in the article! He sez:
I often find black-and-white people a bit stupid, truth be told.
See! See?!
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Bigots of any type aren't worth the time of day.
:)
You're a bigot against bigots.
Is that the reply you were expecting?
Had you RTFA, you would have noticed that the good at everything vs great at one thing distinction is the only difference between Linux and BSD that Linus points out. If your server is going to do a little bit of everything -- use Linux; if you want a good firewall and nothing else -- use OpenBSD; if you want to manage the software on 200 Windows PCs -- use Windows Server and AD; if you are a journalist or a small child -- use OSX.
I guess it has to be stable if the GNU utils haven't been updated since 1989.