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Reports of VHS's Death Highly Exaggerated

aicrules writes "What does it take to ensure that a technology choice will remain relevant and available to the general public? Well, being sold by Wal-Mart is certainly pretty high on that list. According to a CNN/Money article, Wal-Mart Stores will continue to sell VHS tapes for as long as its customers want them. With Best Buy, Circuit City, and Target all dropping sales of the VHS medium, how long can VHS hold out? What is the major reason for people still sticking with VHS?"

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  1. Blanks? by XanC · · Score: 4, Informative
    The article doesn't make clear whether we're talking about movies on VHS or the actual blank VHS tapes.

    The advantages of the blanks should be clear enough... It's still not cheap/easy for most folks to record TV any other way.

    1. Re:Blanks? by Electroly · · Score: 2, Informative

      Many DVD players will notice that you've played a DVD before, and offer to pick up where you left off.

  2. Here's two good reasons by DaveJay · · Score: 4, Informative

    1: My wife is pregnant with twins, and as much as I'd like to get a DVD of the ultrasounds, they spend their money on staying abreast with the latest childcare technologies, just like they should. So I need VHS to take those ultrasounds home with me (just did this today, in fact);

    2: My grandparents (in their late 80s) were very reluctant to accept VCR technology; moving them to DVD will be impossible. And we want them to see the ultrasounds. ;)

    1. Re:Here's two good reasons by generic-man · · Score: 3, Informative

      What happened to the idea of the ultrasound as a medical diagnostic procedure?

      It died earlier this year when companies started offering "recreational medical imaging" at the mall.

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  3. Is this a serious question? by Luminous · · Score: 5, Informative

    For myself and a dozen million other people, VHS is still the cheapest easiest way to record TV programs. Yeah, yeah, I'm behind the tech curve because I don't TIVO or digitally record tv. I don't get tv via bit torrents and honestly, I just can't bring myself to spend the money or the time learning all of that. VCR. Put in Tape. Hit Record. Done.

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    1. Re:Is this a serious question? by Lagged2Death · · Score: 2, Informative

      But it gets more complex if you want to share the show with friends / family / etc. With VHS, you simply lend out the tape, which is already prepared, with a high degree of confidence that the lendee owns and understands how to operate the playback equipment. I know people who are perfectly comfortable using a VCR, but who get flummoxed by DVD players.

  4. Re:As long as its customers want them? by Kesh · · Score: 2, Informative
    When exactly did journalism become merely aggregating press releases?

    In this case, it was a press release that corrects an earlier (apparently incorrect) news article that had been making the rounds. I'd say that this is one of those cases where the press release takes care of the reporting all by itself.

  5. Re:VCR vs DVD Player by debest · · Score: 2, Informative

    My dad just bought one that offers one touch dubbing VHS & DVD+R/RW, in addition to being able to record directly to either.. I think he paid $200.

    Betcha Macrovision prevents any copying of your purchased movies in either direction. On any hardware I've seen, this dubbing only works for unprotected tapes or DVDs (meaning home videos or recorded from TV).

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  6. Re:well... by nocomment · · Score: 4, Informative

    also, as someone who is leaving work early right now to go to an ultra-sound to find out the sex of my incoming baby, they will record the ultrasound for you, but only if you bring your own VHS tape.

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  7. Not really... by cr0sh · · Score: 2, Informative
    Unless you are a hacker willing to take the time to do some work, or (possibly?) willing to fork out cash each month...

    With a VCR, I can record as much as I want (for however many tapes I need), and *keep* those recordings - for as long as they will last. Case in point, my wife and I have *every* episode of X-Files recorded - plus every episode of Millenium. Sure, I could buy the DVDs, and the video would be better - but sometimes watching those old commercials can be entertaining by themselves. Plus, I didn't have to pay (again - because I already paid the cable company once).

    I think that is why people aren't adopting "new recording media" - the new methods are locked down with DRM and such, or they aren't easy to share with friends, family, or even withing the same house (among sets in the house).

    I think if a company came out and made a TIVO-like device (it wouldn't even need a program guide, but if it did, it would be great) that could record many hours of video, and easily network to any existing network or PC in your house, so that any PC (or any other of the same recording device) could "watch" the library of collected videos, and/or download them, etc - with NO DRM (ie, a straight MPEG2 or MPEG4 video) - to a fileserver (if you have one), etc - and make it all fairly easy to use (it wouldn't have to be dead simple - but making it very easy to use just for the machine and others on the network - maybe a built in wireless router or AP which would mesh network with other machines in the house?). Perhaps add USB2 or Firewire to make it easy to expand the hard drive size (or, make a "front load" hard drive bay for a hard drive upgrade option or something?).

    Add on top of all that the ability to play MP3s from anywhere on the drive or on the network, audio/video inputs, ability to record audio to MP3, perhaps a DVD drive as well, plus web browsing, and give the MP3 player some nice visualizations for party use - you would have a killer box.

    However, I don't expect to ever see such a thing, at least not in the near term, which I why I am planning on a custom box (right now centered on an old I-Cue PC Book PC box with a DVD drive, plus a small hard drive and networked to my Samba server - but maybe later if I like the setup, since it can't record, maybe building a Myth TV box).

    Of course, as of late, for the past couple of weeks my wife and I have dropped even watching TV - we have started listening to books on CD from the library, so I think the TV is likely to become just "another monitor", mainly for movies and such...

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  8. Re:Reason? Money. by Bent+Mind · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is a perfect setup for families. Unfortunately, it's also illegal in the United States thanks to the DMCA. You see, every time your child scratches a disc or a new media format comes out, the MPAA wants you to repurchase the movie. The Little Mermaid is an excellent example of this as Disney only produces limited runs to drive up sales every few years.

    It seems to me that the idea of recording with DVD turns most people off do to the copyright protections and laws involved. While newer VHS tapes do have some measure of protection built-in, it's easy to bypass and you don't hear about it in the news. Want to kill off VHS and make recordable DVD acceptable? Kill the DMCA and tell the MPAA to quit shooting their mouths off.

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  9. Re:I know a fanatic... by Achra · · Score: 2, Informative

    Obviously he has a video card with a TV-out.. How else is he getting them on VHS? Pfft. :) The Philips DVP642 plays mpeg, mpeg2 (DVD), mpeg4 (Xvid).. $60 on amazon. I can highly recommend it.

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  10. Re:well... by fraudrogic · · Score: 2, Informative

    I made this point too, you have to bring a VHS tape in order to record your Ultrasound sessions. However, if you get a 3D Ultrasound, it burns them to cd in mpeg and jpeg formats. It's not worth it though. The thing is, the machine for the traditional ultrasound and the 3D ultrasound seemed to be the same, you would think it would record to the same medium.

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  11. Re:Two good features of VHS by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 3, Informative

    Have you tried the DVD? You have to scan through the entire movie to find your scene as it has just one chapter.

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  12. Phillips DVP642 + Hacked Firmware = BLISS by toy4two · · Score: 4, Informative

    Play XVID, DIVX, DVD, MP3, SVCD, KVCD, etc etc all for $55 at walmart.
    Then join groups.yahoo.com dvp642 and download one of the many hacked firmwares.

    Region free, no macrovision, skip any previews, change the backround image, etc etc.

  13. Re:well... by ajservo · · Score: 2, Informative

    None of my 7 year old DVD's have problems. Infact, the bulk of my library of DVD's is over 4 years old, with 30% of it 6-7 years old. No problems to speak of here.

    I think you're exaggerating your rot%. I've even got CD's from late 80's (mc hammer) that are in good shape. Unfortunately.

    ahem.