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x86-64 Slackware Clone Released
Rob_Ogilvie points out that another distribution for x86-64 (AKA AMD64) has been released: "This time it's Slamd64. Slamd64 10.1 is based off Slackware 10.1. Developer Fred Emmott ported Slackware to AMD64 in his spare time, trying to keep the distribution as close to Slackware proper as possible (even keeping binary compatibility for many existing packages). Finally x86-64 users have some real viable choices out there!"
The past few weeks have been fantastic for PC operating system developments. Between the new Fedora release, this, the release of open source Solaris, the release of FreeBSD 5.4, Mac OS X on Intel machines, and the upcoming release of BeOS, things have really been happening at an amazing pace. We are truly coming up to a time of great innovation and change in the PC desktop/workstation landscape.
Cyric Zndovzny at your service.
...and it's STILL compiling!
Don't the big ones (SuSE, Fedora, Gentoo, etc) already support AMD64
It's news because slackware *is* one of the big ones that has been around since pretty much the beginning of Linux.
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This is good, but it's not like there was no choice for x86_64 before. Debian, (K)Ubuntu, Fedora, Suse, Mandriva all have 64 bit versions out.
Maybe because that doesn't answer the fucking question which was "Are there any 64bit version of Slackware" that many would probably be interested in. Instead you come up and say "Why not Debian".
It's like when I ask a question about compiling a certain program's source package and then the whole thing turns into a gentoo vs the rest of the world kind of conversation.
Why not Debian? Who ever said this was a replacement to Debian? That's what you make it seem! Some ppl will take Debian. Some ppl will take Slackware It's just more choices.
I want to use Slackware, why not Gentoo right? Those kind of questions are blindly asked without knowing what I really want and what I don't want. That's what you just did.
A person wants this, but you suggest that.... No, stfu. That's not what the person wants.
There's nothing wrong with Debian! (using Debian sarge on a fileserver) Your question was simply too vague and common among the OSS community where ppl like to steer away the conversations and start defending their favorite distro/software.
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All recommendations I've seen are to hold off using WinXP 64 and wait until Longhorn.
On the conpiracy theory side... Microsoft's slow adoption may strictly be at the bequest of Intel (who know they don't really have anything that can compete with AMD right now).
By delaying "good" support for 64bit, Microsoft is actually helping Intel in making sure the 64bit revolution doesn't take off in a massive way... gives Intel more time to catch up. Most Intel shops are pure Microsoft shops (e.g. Dell.. well.. Dell does give Linux some lip service, but it's just a marketing thing).
We've been having problems with rsync timeouts and I've not been able to get hold of the admin of the primary mirror. ftp.heanet.ie/pub/slamd64/ contains the .xdelta files for final compared to RC4 - full isos should have finished in a few hours. Sorry for the delay.
Why is this news?
Well, it's slackware working in another architecture
Why not Debian/*buntu/Fedora/yadda?
I don't like [package] management getting in my way, that's why.
It's outdated!
Get some fresh source or search slackware-current or linuxpackages
If I wanted to compile I'd get gentoo!
Your choice.
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That's not a clone of Slack 10.1, it's an officially sanctionned port.
Furthermore, Slack 10.1 will run just fine on AMD64, because AMD64, and ia64 as well, are backwards compatible and will run code intended for 32-bit processors. The difference is that the code in slamd64 is optimized for Athlon64/Opteron, a feat which is entirely doable by anybody who knows how to compile a kernel and their own software.
Don't get me wrong. It's a great boon to people who prefer Slack and run AMD64, but that only comes in saving them the time to compile their own, but it's by no means the great saviour: I've been running Slack 10.1 on my Athlon64-based server for a while, and all I had to do was compile a kernel and recompile Apache/PHP/MySQL/Sendmail/UW-IMAP. Technically, I didn't even have to recompile those, either....
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What about the 64-Bit version of Windows XP?
Crap for drivers. Only been running an AMD64 for a few weeks now, so I've yet to try out the flavors of linux for it, but only ran XP64 for about an hour before formatting the drive. Doesn't do much good to run 64bit OS if you can't talk to your printer and you have to use hacked up inf files to get the on board NIC working.
Give it a year or so to get some freak'n driver support and then give it a shot. Till then, stick with XP pro or Linux.
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I bought my beast from Micronux:
http://www.micronux.com/
This model:
here
It's a good system and it came with CentOS4 for x86_64 which I gave a few days before wiping and installing x86_64 gentoo.
I've since bought an additional GB of memory to dedicate to various vmware machines for envrionment testing and some work-specific windows stuff.
The only issues I've had with an all x86_64 system has been related to codeweavers and transgaming stuff. Oh and some issues with Flash. I spend most of time browsing with a native compiled firefox version and switching to firefox-bin under multilib when I need the non-64bit plugins.
I even did my first stage one install in a LONG time (I normally do a stage 2 on installs for obvious time reasons) just to see how it would perform and even with just the 1GB of ram at the time, I was done in a couple of hours and running X. The system really does scream. FYI, PCI-Express in SLI mode is non-existant under linux right now but dual-head works fine.
Micronux is a solid company and I plan on buying again from them in the future.
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