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Windows Longhorn and Internet Explorer 7
An anonymous reader writes "At Gnomedex this year, Microsoft is excited about the new RSS integration into Windows Longhorn and Internet Explorer 7. Screenshots of Internet Explorer 7 reveal how Microsoft has added a search tool to the top right of the browsing window similar to the one found in Safari/Firefox. Also, Microsoft revealed that RSS will be integrated into the heart of Longhorn."
Well now I'm almost positive that the search engine integrated into IE is MSN's own. And since IE is embedded into Windows, this has a good chance of reducing traffic for Google, Yahoo, and other search engines. So can we expect to see a possible lawsuit for these unfair business practices, which Microsoft is infamous for?
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But that's not in microsoft's best interests. They're a company, after all. They're in a perfect position: they can make their operating system require a faster processor and more memory. Do you think Intel, AMD and the various memory makers aren't "very grateful" of the extra business they get from the dizzyingly high requirements of Windows nowadays?
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Am I the only one confused as to why M$ would call the gathering Gnomedex? I though it was going to have something to do with the Gnome desktop and M$ for second. Wierd.
My humor is probably your flamebait
Look up xplite. It's what I used, trimmed the windows partition down to 700mb (you can go lower, but I kept in stuff like media player and IE)
Funny, there are actually IE-fanboys there at that thread. Didn't know those existed.
What really amazes me is the fact that they're saying that "RSS is going to be so much broader because MS is putting the work they are doing into the platform." RSS has been around for years, and now RSS is amazing because IE integrates it? IE is so far behind that technologies aren't realized until years later. Ridiculous.
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>RSS will be integrated into the heart of Longhorn
Maybe there will be a scripting extension so I can add some dynamic content to my blog.
Hey how about automatic forwarding?
Well you are not an engineer that's for sure. Engineers are responsible for everything they include in their projects. So if an engineer thinks that a standard is flawed he has the right to not include it, as it is his responsibility to ensure his product is of a certain quality. There are many standards that are bad and no longer used. Technologies and standards change.
I would like to hear a reason as to why you think that someone should have to comply with a standard that goes against his or her professional judgment? You may be surprised but there are many ways of doing things.
As for CSS2 I'm not really sure why they believe it's broken. In truth, I'm not surprised MS does not like W3C since W3C is trying to standardize the web, which would allow a lot of competition for IE. That's not what MS wants so they will come up with their own standard. That way people will create IE friendly pages and all the other browsers will get screwed. However, MS still has the right to reject any standard. Who knows, they might actually be right.
I hear all of this interesting talk about RSS, the video posted above is especially interesting. The interesting thing I find however, is not what it could do or who did what first, but who this is being worked on for. I don't have a single friend or relative who knows what RSS is or will have any clue what it means when a little colored square that says RSS on it means. Why aren't developers making this concept understandable and functional to PEOPLE, not just programmers and the tech-savvy? What steps would we have to take?
Nlite looks pretty cool. I would have used it if I had found it 2 months ago. Instead, I spent 3+/- days learning how to do it all the hard way, and I burned a lot of coasters in the process.
When I finally got done, I had a pretty, slick up-to-date*, restoration cd that I could insert in the box, walk away for about an hour, come back and login. My normal apps (including virus scanner) install automatically, too. And yes, the very first thing the box does when it connects to the internet is go get the latest virus defs.
* Obsolete the following Tuesday.
I am currently working on one that XP will be as stripped down as I can make it, and will use F/OSS applications only. I am continually amazed at the darn decent F/OSS software that is available, (Thank you sourceforge folks!).
I admit it, I make my living supporting Windows. However, I have done several Gentoo systems, and did go through the pain of LFS 5 (twice*). I want to make the switch to Linux, but I haven't found the setup/apps/configs I would like, so I keep switching distro's, never spending enough time to get used to them. (Typical Windows User, Don't know what I want...)
* FYI - Shell scripting LFS is a bugger! Compiled and Installed by hand the first time, then wanted to try for a Gentoo-style install.
They call us sheeple, I wonder why?
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If you want a slimmed-down, security conscious version of Windows I'd suggest Windows 2003 Server.
Otherwise, be careful about what you install. Turn off Active X if you don't like it or want it on. Avoid downloading and installing everything you find for "free" on the Internet. "Free" software is not free, because it's usually poorly-written and leaves digital droppings all over your hard drive.
But, for now, the actual usefulness of RSS is completely and totally questionable. So far, I've found absolutely no use whatsoever for it, and I've been doing this stuff as long as it's been around.
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Now your spyware and Browser Helper Objects can automatically keep themselves up to date based on RSS feeds!
if you want people to think you know what you are talking about, just put ".com" at the end of everything you say.com
I am sitting here, pondering the future of Windows, as I watch the operating system slowly boot up and struggle along.
Honestly, perceived response times with Windows have always seemed much superior to those of alternatives. What kind of system do you have? Secondly, this post is likely skewed towards an anti-Windows sentiment. Have you reinstalled your system in the last decade? Which VERSION of Windows are you running?
You leave so much information to be desired in your post, and yet still the zealots leap to swallow your anti-Windows sermon hook line and sinker.
I see no difference in a post as boldly uninformative as your own and:
"HAY GUYS LINUX IS KOOL WINDOWS IS FOR LUSERS LAST TIME I USED WINDOWS IT TOOK LIKE 6 BILLION YEARS TO OPEN INTERNET EXPLORER LOL AM I RITE OR WHAT GUYS?"
"[T]hat is a blatent lie,"
Yes, because without knowing exactly what hardware the both of you are using, your datapoints ABOUT OSX and experience are somehow more correct than his ABOUT WINDOWS AND LINUX, always.
But instead of pointing out that with almost all Linux distributions, most components can be stripped out by the end user with relative ease to save memory and CPU cycles, or that the Windows and Linux memory managers might show different performance optima depending on the amount of installed memory, you've resorted to a failed attempt at feigning zealotism.
hector_uk, I invite you do show me, with any arbitrary computing task of your choice, how trained monkeys might perform better than you using a computer running XP and 128 MB of RAM. If your the duties of your vocation can be performed with trained monkeys, you might also consider a more meaningful line of work.
There are 1.1... kinds of people.
Have you ever read the "leaked" Whitepaper Microsoft did on the conversion of HotMail from FreeBDS/Apache to Win2000/IIS?
One of the things they specifically mention is the fact you can build a VERY SMALL minimal *nix system because you can cut all of the cruft. It is humanly possible to figure out the mininum dependancies, libraries, etc.
Whereas with Microsoft, who was doing this as a matter of pride, would not create a striped down version of Windows for themselves. And even stated that you could not strip down a build of windows because there are to many unknown interactions.
It would take a lot of work to figure out what you can remove. More work than Microsoft was even willing to do as a matter of pride on a project they were throwing millions of dollars at and took several years to complete.
I don't think we will see a striped down "core" version of Windows anytime soon.
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The only RSS viewer I know of for FireFox is the LiveBookmarks and the Extension Sage. Sage acts nothing like Safari. LiveBookmarks are nice (only for del.icio.us for me however) but aren't really what I would consider an RSS reader. Thunderbird has an RSS reader, but Firefox does not. If it does, feel free to point me to it.
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