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Morse Code on Cell Phones?

An anonymous reader writes "In a recent showdown, veteran Morse coders were able to send SMS messages faster via Morse than the fastest thumb-typists. What about embedding support for Morse code directly into handsets? This article on O'Reilly Network floats the idea of using Morse code to compose text messages, as well as tapping commands (i.e. answer call, forward to voice mail, etc) in hands-free mode by tapping on the handset case."

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  1. Rather impractical by nmg196 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The supposed "showdown" on Jay Leno was a highly unscientific and inaccurate test which pitted the world's fasted morse coder using very expensive morse equipment against a teenager using a cheap cell phone with a membrane keypad.

    If the pro-morser had been forced to enter morse on a phone keypad instead of his $200 morsing 'bug' then I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have won. It takes several keypresses to send a single character in morse and just because it's morse, it doesn't mean that you can press the keys any quicker. He could only key quicker because of the equipment he was using.

    Add to that the fact that it takes ages to learn morse and only a few minutes to learn standard texting or T9 predictive text, I think you'll find that the take up on morse on phones would be pretty much zero.

    I think anyone's efforts would be better spent designing better keypads or improving predictive text rather than wasting time trying to put morse code (designed for carrier wave) onto a phone (designed for voice and data).

    The only part of his idea that I think is sensible is the idea that you can answer and redirect calls without having to look for the key to press (not that I find that hard after I've had my phone a few days, because you know where the main green and red buttons are without having to look). Having said that, most phones have any key answer if you enable it, and on a lot of bluetooth handsfree kits you can answer and make calls using a single button and voice tags (obviously requires phone support).

    Also, the reason morse is as fast as it is is because you hardly have to move your finger at all. The article author is suggesting that you use your fingernail for a "dit" and the flat of your finger for a "dah". This would be ridiculously slow and very painful after the first few characters as it would be a very unnatural movement!

    If you want to type seriously fast on your phone, then you need a way to plug in a standard sized keyboard (preferably Dvorak!).

    1. Re:Rather impractical by elgatozorbas · · Score: 4, Insightful
      If the pro-morser had been forced to enter morse on a phone keypad instead of his $200 morsing 'bug' then I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have won. It takes several keypresses to send a single character in morse and just because it's morse, it doesn't mean that you can press the keys any quicker. He could only key quicker because of the equipment he was using.

      While I can follow your reasoning, it is also not completely fair:
      - transmitting morse code is done using the equipment the guy used, transmitting text messages is done using the equipment the boy used. What you are saying is "cars would be not faster than bicycles, if it weren't for the combustion engines".
      - it is only your assumption that the morse guy wouldn't have won using the keypad. Maybe yes, maybe no. Not very scientific either.
      - No-one is saying this was a scientific endeavour. Was Leno nominated for the Nobel prize or so?

    2. Re:Rather impractical by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I always felt the test was like pitting Michael Schumacher in a f1 racing car against someone who got their license in a fiat Panda ,to prove that Germans have more testosterone .

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    3. Re:Rather impractical by bplipschitz · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The supposed "showdown" on Jay Leno was a highly unscientific and inaccurate test which pitted the world's fasted morse coder using very expensive morse equipment against a teenager using a cheap cell phone with a membrane keypad.

      Retard. That '. . .world's fastest morse coder. . .' was nothing of the kind. He was a typical Ham Radio contest enthusiast. Also, no one but some goofball on ./ would call them 'morse coders'.

      They're radio amateurs, cw ops, ham radio guys, even brass pounders, but not 'morse coders.'

      Besides, Morse isn't a code, it's a cipher.

      Now, crawl back in your hole, curl up in the fetal position, rock back and forth, and meditate on the difference between entertainment and real science while sucking your thumb.

    4. Re:Rather impractical by L0C0loco · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Very true. This is all about the speed and efficiency of the interface. Morse is faster both because of the proficiency of that particular operator and because of the efficiency of the interface (namely two buttons/paddles vs a bunch of buttons not optimally laid out on a tini phone). In the end though I submit that just talking in to the phone in the first place is the most efficient and would meet all of the improvements suggested in the article (voice recognition/command already exists on some phones). Taking this one step further, developing a direct brain to device electrical interface is probably the ultimate goal.

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    5. Re:Rather impractical by sgant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The operators have already stated elsewhere (I don't have a link handy, sorry) that they were limited in speed because the reciever couldn't use a typewriter to write down the code he was recieving...which would be much quicker. So they were actually hampered by is writing with a pencil speed.

      The morse operators were also tapping out the entire message, while the text-messenger guys were using abbreviations. Anyone that has sat in on a CW QSO would know that operators use a TON of abbreviations to keep the code quick.

      And it's true, CW equipment doesn't have to be expensive at all. In fact, to get on the HF bands it's probably one of the cheapest part of the hobby, especially if you're looking to do QRP which is running at 5w or less.

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  2. but who wants to learn morse code? by tiberiandusk · · Score: 1, Insightful

    it takes a lot of practice to use morse code at the speed that professionals do. i don't think there are enough people out there that would want to spend the time to make this a viable product. you could maybe sell it on think geek but not to the people that shop wal-mart and best buy.

  3. Re:The Most Amazing Dupe Known To Man! by KiloByte · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wrong. This is not a dupe.
    The previous set of (duplicated) articles said that a veteran Morser beat a semi-"veteran" SMSer.

    On the other hand, this article suggests a way to draw conclusions from that experiment and provide Morse as an input method for the cell phones, to have the best of those two world. It's a research -vs- application difference.

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  4. Re:The Most Amazing Dupe Known To Man! by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's a fair point, however if I'd written the story, I would have added something along the lines of "as previously reported on /." or "following up on article XYZ", just to make those who shout "it's a dupe!" look silly (or at least vulnerable to a RTFA counterattack) - it's not as if that reaction couldn't have been predicted.

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