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SAGE 2004-2005 Salary Survey Announced
Nalez writes "The ever-popular SAGE Salary Survey is ready to go and available to all computer administrators. Everyone who participates will get a copy of the results. The survey takes 17-20 minutes to complete. SAGE members can access the 2003 results and you can read all about previous SAGE surveys."
I imagine the survey will look a lot different next year if things keep going the way they are. The article below talks about a company out in California looking for a programmer at $15/hour.
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June 30, 2005 3:26 PM PDT
Coding for $15 an hour?
Could a computer coding job paying just $15 per hour signal something's wrong with the tech world?
That relatively measly amount is what's promised in an ad for a "ASP.NET Programmer" on the America's Job Bank site. The job, which calls for "at least 1 year's experience either in school, at work, or a combination of the two," is being offered by employment services company AppleOne, according to the ad.
I been getting in the San Francisco Bay Area are usually between $16 to $20 per hour. However, I been getting offers for work outside the SF Bay Area (mostly in Southern California) for $50 to $60 per hour for the same kind of work. Can anyone explain the difference?
The hour is longer in socal. You can tell because all the job offers indicate "willing to be working long hours". Probably to prepare workers for life on another planet that spins more slowly on its axis or something...
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When I was a director of engineering, I noted they had the opposite effect. I knew I had to pay more to keep the REALLY GOOD people I had (this was leading up to 2001, granted), but the board of directors kept telling me that their salary surveys said we were already paying too much. Salary surveys don't tell the whole story. Talent counts for a LOT. And my staff was worth more than "standard."
As someone formally employed in the IT certification training industry, I can tell you that the results of these surveys are often used by unscrupulous salespeople to sell expensive courses and training "kits" (over-priced boxes of cheaply bound, poor quality books and a CD or two) to gullible persons looking to get into IT. Let's say experienced Cisco admins are making $65k/year according to the survey. This information is pitched to prospective students to imply that they will make $65k if they just buy the $5000 CCNA course and pass the exam. Of course a CCNA and no job experience is unlikely to get you a job at all much less a high paying one. I'll name names: Intense School, Wave Technologies, TechSkills, and by far the worst, New Horizons.
Not really. If you can each live on 80% of your salaries and you invest the other 20% each year, the Tokyo guy would retire a multimillionaire while the India guy won't have nearly so much. Mr. Tokyo could cruise around the world in a yacht or something while Mr. India could never afford to travel the world.
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