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Gates Says No to Implants

Tamas Feher from Hungary writes "The future of Slashdot's infamous Borg Bill thumbnail image may be in jeopardy after Microsoft founder William H. Gates said technology will one day allow computer implants - but hardwiring's not for him. 'One of the guys that works at Microsoft... always says to me 'I'm ready, plug me in,"' Gates said Friday at a Microsoft seminar in Singapore when he was asked whether computers would ever be implanted in the human brain. "I don't feel quite the same way. I'm happy to have the computer over there and I'm over here.' "

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  1. Well Bill... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Resistance is futile.

  2. Trust by Cthefuture · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other words he doesn't trust the hardware and/or software being hooked up to his brain.

    Gee, I wonder why...

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    1. Re:Trust by ImaLamer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      he's used Windows the most, and he sees a world of Windows domination...

    2. Re:Trust by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hah! I can understand why. Who want's to risk witness a "Vision Of Death" (VOD) error?

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    3. Re:Trust by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 3, Funny

      It hasn't stopped Google!

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  3. Only because by StonedRat · · Score: 3, Funny

    Only because he doesn't trust microsoft software running on his brain. The Blue Screen of Death could become literal and he knows it.

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  4. That's Easy To Say by DanielMarkham · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But where do you really draw the line? Most of us spend a lot of time staring at a LCD, would laser-projected images in the retina be that much of a stretch? Gates himself has his company working hard on speech recognition -- which is obviously a step towards taking away the interfaces. It seems to me the clear path is towards zero interfaces: direct brain stimulation. That would truly be the easiest thing for most users to operate. (But I wouldn't want to get a GPF in my brain! Ouch!)
    So it's easy to say you're against connecting up to the computer, but it's not a black-and-white situation. I imagine integration will happen over several decades, not all at once.

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    1. Re: That's Easy To Say by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny


      > But where do you really draw the line?

      Butt plugs.

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    2. Re:That's Easy To Say by ColdGrits · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Gates himself has his company working hard on speech recognition -- which is obviously a step towards taking away the interfaces.


      That's not taking away an interface, any more than having a keyboard instead of punched card is taking away an interface!

      Speech recognition merely allows for a different and faster interface between operator and computer, but it is still by definition an interface.

      Indeed it could be argued that even hardwiring the computer directly into your brain still requires an interface, again by definition. It would just be a different type of interface, presumably much faster and one which required less effort to use, but an interface it would still be.

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  5. Here I was thinking about boobies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    And that Gates refuses to get man-boobs and wear a 'bro'.

  6. Re:soon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Video games do propel technology. But open source propels it further, IMHO.

    Do you have any kind of evidence whatsoever to back that up?

  7. But... by Tanmi-Daiow · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...would it run linux?

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  8. I mean seriously... by earthforce_1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Would you want a body implant that runs on Windows?

    I can just see it - adware popups that appear every 2 minutes on your ocular implants.

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    1. Re:I mean seriously... by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

      Would you want a body implant that runs on Linux?

      I can just see it - telling you it doesn't have the right drivers for your heart and disabling your pulmonary functions.

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    2. Re:I mean seriously... by Trelane · · Score: 4, Funny
      I can just see it - telling you it doesn't have the right drivers for your heart and disabling your pulmonary functions.

      You see, God's in a dilemma. The Heart was developed over many millions of years by God Himself, using his now-open Evolution Development System. But, due to Microsoft's dominance of the desktop leading to its dominance of the browsers and then to the servers, in this, the year 2012, Microsoft now has complete control over the Internet. So unless God was able to somehow convince 9 billion people to use His Almighty Internet Service, which is notably completely incompatible with Microsoft's Internet v3 and Body Management Services of Medicine PX, he must provide the interface to Heart version 3.14159265(and so on) to Microsoft. Unfortunately, as a side effect of licensing the interface to Microsoft, he's now unable to provide drivers to Linux, which since Microsoft's utter dominance of all things computers shortly after all vendors suddenly and miraculously started supporting Microsoft's Palladium System nee NGSCB, is run by about 3 people in Norway living in a cave and harnessing a beowulf cluster of hamsters to provide power. But, on the other hand, Microsoft promised not to provide a competing implementation of Heart! (Both a carrot and a stick, God mutters under His breath sometimes).

      Too bad for God that Microsoft has now launched MS Deity, which has received very favourable press lately (despite not having nearly as many features as God Himself, but it ties in so well to the existing Microsoft hardware software and wetware, and besides, they'll get that in the next version, they promise), and of course will provide everything that God provides except Heart. Of course, to do this, they had to get inside information, but since they outright own many very pleasant places to live and work, and with a warchest now exceeding 432 trillion dollars, they easily afford to, uh, acquire many of God's most trusted workers and skip the millions of years of development (coincidentally, they also hired away all of God's workers in charge of Zotting the Unbelievers, who otherwise would help convert 9billion fat and happy-ish Microsoft users!). However, in 2015, according to an internal Microsoft email that, after being read, got lost, shredded, re-constructed, stamped three times with a big red stamp, and then lost again, Microsoft plans on also releasing Heart, since God's marketshare is expected to dwindle to the point of Him not being able to support a lawsuit against Microsoft.

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  9. Thats because the computer thats "over there" by 1lus10n · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is running windows. Imagine the pain in the ass that would come about from a crash. Even Gates would admit that windows is not ready for this kind of critical application. Probably never will be.

    I have always said that Microsofts failures and limits are because many people in that company (including Bill) always see the limit to computing. They are limited by what they think is reasonable and what they think will make the most money. Hell of a business plan, sucky for technological advancement though.

    Now lets wait for all of the Microsoft zealots to flame/mod me.

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    1. Re:Thats because the computer thats "over there" by griffjon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Imagine the pain in the ass that would come about from a crash

      Uh, I dunno about you, but I figure my computer implants will prolly be closer to my head.

      Oh course, I guess if you have your head up your ass like most of MS people do...

      OK, I see your point. Nevermind :)

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    2. Re:Thats because the computer thats "over there" by someonewhois · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're right. At the same time, though, neither is Linux. I wouldn't trust any curernt operating system in my brain, and you shouldn't either. Linux is far from perfect. Neither is Windows.

      If we were to get computer-implants, they would be specifically designed for the brain, and they would be running with redundant fail-safe EVERYTHING. We shouldn't trust software that we know has a possibility (as small as that may be) of crashing.

  10. Re:soon... by MadFarmAnimalz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do you have any kind of evidence whatsoever to back that up?

    Hm. I suspect your tenure as an active slashdotter has not been as lengthy as it may have been, or in more common parlance, "you must be new here".

    Your cowardly reliance on anonymity, forthermore, may imply a certain embarrassment concerning your slashdot userid. I'd wager it's around twice mine.

    I'm sorry. I'll get back to the point.

    Now, you'll notice that the parent whom you prompt for evidence employs the phrase "open source" in a context suggesting blind allegiance and a rampant desire to propagate it (often at the expense of procreation).

    This being slashdot, the original poster is exempt from the condition of providing evidence.

    Or do you think that it is a bad thing for open source to be propelled?

    Gentlemen moderators, the parent requires to be moderated "funny". No one on slashdot is dumb enough to require proof of outrageous claims.

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  11. Over here, Over There by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny
    I'm happy to have the computer over there and I'm over here.

    Jeez Bill, never heard of Bluetooth?

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  12. Re:In 2020 by cicho · · Score: 4, Funny

    In 2020, the BSOD crashes you!

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  13. Just to let you know... by weavermatic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've been using WinXP pro since pre-launch, on multiple computers, with several hardware upgrades, and have never, ever, had a single BSOD. Could you Linux addicts please come up with something new to bash on Windows with other than Kernel32 era bsod insults?

    Seriously, for people that claim to know Linux inside & out and be extremely bright IT professionals, if you can't keep WinXP running smoothly then your knowledge is seriously lacking.

    1. Re:Just to let you know... by dmaxwell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seriously, for people that claim to know Linux inside & out and be extremely bright IT professionals, if you can't keep WinXP running smoothly then your knowledge is seriously lacking.

      It can be done. Much of the time, my job entails doing just that. It's just that it is more trouble and expense than it's worth.

    2. Re:Just to let you know... by mh101 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I've been using WinXP pro since pre-launch, on multiple computers, with several hardware upgrades, and have never, ever, had a single BSOD

      Try pressing the power switch.

      *rimshot*

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    3. Re:Just to let you know... by I'mJVC · · Score: 3, Insightful

      OK,

      1, Ad-ware / Spyware.
      2, Virus, worms, Trojans, etc.
      3, Web browser components running in kernel mode (means more 1 and 2).
      4, Difficulty to use non-privileged accounts for regular use.
      5, Too much patches that require reboot.
      6, Bloat.
      7, Slow development model that still has not delivered simple things as a tabbed browser, or other already available features.
      8, Obscene licensing terms (Ever read your EULA?).
      9, Crappy interoperability because of the lack of documentation, hidden apis, "embrace and extend" model and obscure development.
      10, 100$+ price tag, 50$ + renewal for antivirus, not even a basic office suite (add more $$)...
      11, Stall of innovation (Only improvals to XP in the last 4 years have been a software firewall, update downloader app, support for DEP and a lot of bug-fixes. New features are hyped constantly but still remain at a very distant future, like WinFS)

      So, yes, while I can and do keep several XP's machines running smoothly, it's too time consuming, very expensive (worst in enterprise environments) and definitely not worth the hassle.

      While MS has made a lot of improvements in stability, and it's still capitalizing previous successes in the enterprise market (Active Directory for example, is a great product), they still have a long way to go before they accept their own weak spots and do something about it (if they ever do).

      The way I see it, people could pay comparable amounts and use a superior platform and OS, or they could go with a cheaper (even free) option, and still have competitive features/performance while always getting a more secure and more dependable scenario (means no more sunday mornings cleaning parents PC, or less I.T. staff doing support only tasks).

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    4. Re:Just to let you know... by dustmite · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've been using WinXP pro since pre-launch, on multiple computers, with several hardware upgrades, and have never, ever, had a single BSOD

      Maybe that's because WinXP's default behaviour is to spontaneously reboot rather than BSOD. It's probably happened a few times to you, and you probably just thought "WTF?" and then went on working after it restarted. I've seen XP boot up with the "... has recovered from a serious error" message many times.

  14. Re:Oh, like *nix is any better??? by SpinJaunt · · Score: 5, Funny
    # man mount

    You happy now?
    from a hetreosexual point of view, that is quite disturbing.
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  15. Teen Beat 1983 For Thumbnail? by plasticsquirrel · · Score: 3, Funny

    Might I suggest a new Bill Gates thumbnail based on this sexy pic?

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  16. Re:Borg character - WTF? by hugesmile · · Score: 3, Informative
    From Wikipedia

    The Borg are a race of cyborgs in the Star Trek fictional universe. Some say the name 'Borg' is simply short for cyborg.

    Borg are humanoids of different races that are enhanced with cybernetic implants, giving them improved mental and physical abilities. Although the cyborg concept has long existed in science-fiction literature, it is probable that the general concept of the Borg - a ruthless, aggressive race of bio-mechanical beings bent on galactic conquest - was influenced to some degree by the Cybermen, which featured in the popular British television series Doctor Who and who displayed similar rationales and methods as the Borg, including wanting to assimilate individuals to augment their race. They also bear significant resemblences to Fred Saberhagen's Berserker series.

    The minds of all Borg are connected via implants to a hive, a collective mind, orchestrated by the Borg Queen and controlled from a central hub, the Unicomplex. According to themselves, the Borg only seek to "improve the quality of life in the universe" and add to their own perfection. To this end, they travel the galaxy, improving their numbers and advancing by "assimilating" other species and technologies, and forcing captured individuals under the control of the Hive mind by injecting them with nanoprobes. They harbor no ill will to anyone; they merely fulfil their biological or programmatic imperative to assimilate. As they say, "You will be assimilated - resistance is futile." They make good on that threat by their ability to quickly adapt to any attack to render it harmless. Thus, any successful defense depends on the ingenuity of the opponent to find a method to stop the Borg completely before they can neutralize it.

    See also this cartoon.

  17. Re:soon... by secolactico · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This got me thinking... and what exactly is the prognosis for Open Source implants? Who wants to go first on the test bed? This ain't no operating system... testing could result in deaths and a lot of pain.

    There are too sides to that.

    On one hand, it's a lot more complicated than pain and death. There are probably a lot of people who would volunteer for it. Some would do it because they believe they are contributing for a greater good. Some would because they get a kick out of risks and pain. And who knows what else.

    But the main problem would be regulation. In any first world country I can think of (and probably most third world countries), local health authorities are going to want to regulate it, and rightly so. Just look at all the hoops that pharmaceutical companies have to jump thru just to get a new drug tested on human subjects. And didn't just recently the FDA denied permission to implant a patient with a bionic heart? This is goint to be tested to hell and back before someone gives permission for this.

    On the other hand, open source does not necesarily mean a lone coder in his basement/garage, tho sometimes that is the image that is sold by many. A consortium or a corporation with enough resources to comply with regulation could very well embrace the OS movement and develop OS implants. I don't know how likely this is since this would probably mean slower return of investment.

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  18. Re:Very prudent by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny
    [..] as the BSA brain surgeons deal with my alleged patent infringements.

    The Boy Scouts of America have a merit badge for that? Whoa! No way!

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  19. Depends on the graphics capabilities... by PornMaster · · Score: 3, Funny

    If slashdotters could have supermodels superimposed on their visual cortex to replace the women they could actually possibly get into bed, then yes, I could see it being quite popular.

  20. Re:I can understand his concern. by Aaron+England · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Uh right... because kidnappings and muggings have never transpired prior to this invention of chip implants.

  21. It's inevitable by artemis67 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When impants start making you more competitive in the marketplace, you bet it's going to take off -- especially if they can be discreetly implanted.

    What happens when a chip implanted in your brain can make you 25% "smarter"? Most people will recoil at the thought; a few will take advantage of it, and it will gradually catch on, until we reach the point that the most competitive jobs routinely have super-human requirements, and the people who don't have implants will start sliding down the economic scale.

    Never underestimate the power of greed to transform human society.

  22. Re:Trust -- catch 22 by darkonc · · Score: 3, Insightful
    He knows that Windows will probably never be stable enough and safe enough to trust his life with -- on the other hand, he knows that SlashDot would have an absolute field day if we found out that Gates himself was running on Linux or BSD.

    Remember: Gates and Microsoft are all about PR, but only when it hurts somebody else.

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  23. No child left behind by johansalk · · Score: 3, Insightful



    Imagine a future situation where under the guisse of equal and universal access to education it would be mandated that every child from a young age be plugged in and online. Or imagine under the guisse of fighting "terrorism" - hey, we'll still be at it as long as it's expedient and serves special interests(!) - those in power would claim that "if your got nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about!"

    Wait for it!

  24. Actually, by gillbates · · Score: 4, Funny

    Resistance is the quotient of voltage and current.

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  25. Always on Call. Always. by Mulletproof · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think Bill Gates has a point. When I want to leave the office, I want to leave the the office there, not take it with me everywhere I go. I'm just imagining having a pager built right into you 24/7... And that's just for starters.

    I'm sure there will be different implant levels, but nah, i think I'll pass too.

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  26. Of course Gates doesn't want implants. by GFLPraxis · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course Bill Gates doesn't want implants to take off. Microsoft would end up being the one writing the software for it. I for one would really like to avoid having Windows powered body parts. Blue screen of death, anyone?

  27. Gotta say it by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Imagine a beowulf cluster of ME!

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  28. Re:soon... by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Money as a Motivator > Pretty much anything but your life as a Motivator.

    Sorry but that just isn't true.

    Most people when they have enough money to live comfortably find other motivations (suggesting that money is only a secondary motive, and comfort/survival are the primary ones).. how many people here have quite a higher paying job for less money but a better environment? In that case the equation is evil Boss + Lots of money nice Boss + less money.

    I myself quite a job earning double what I am now to work on my favourite opensource project full time.. I've still got enough to live on, just can't buy as much new hardware every month.. big deal.. I'm much happier as a result.

    Heck I've known people who have quite *all* paying work to go voluntary for a few years, supported by donations that might or might not happen. They're some of the most motivate people I've ever met, too.