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Japan Probes Mysterious Vapor Eruption

Saeed al-Sahaf writes "From the BBC, Japan's Coast Guard dispatched aircraft Sunday to survey a 3,300-foot-high column of steam rising from the Pacific Ocean off the island of Iwo Jima. MSNBC has a nice picture. The vapor was reported Saturday after Japanese troops stationed on the small island observed the massive cloudy plume rise from the sea about 30 miles southeast of the island. 'It's highly likely that it's caused by an eruption of an underwater volcano,' Japanese officials said. But others are not so sure, and are speculating that Godzilla has awoken from its nap. Tokyo remains calm at this hour."

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  1. Mitsubishi F-2 Versus Godzilla by reporter · · Score: 2, Informative
    This scenario presents an ideal opportunity to deploy a squadron of F-2 fighter/bombers to combat Godzilla or the Chinese naval fleet.

    The F-2 is the new Japanese frontline fighter and employs stealth technology developed by Japanese engineers. The F-2 is distinctly inferior to the American F-22 but is a source of pride for the Japanese military.

    In about 5 years, Tokyo will deploy the new F-2 Super Kai, an improved version of the F-2. The Japanese military has already released pictures of a preliminary model. It should be quite effective an slaying Godzilla or the Chinese military.

    The pictures of the F-2 Super Kai are awesome. What's this? I'm salivating.

    1. Re:Mitsubishi F-2 Versus Godzilla by Zancarius · · Score: 4, Informative
      The F-2 is the new Japanese frontline fighter and employs stealth technology developed by Japanese engineers. The F-2 is distinctly inferior to the American F-22 but is a source of pride for the Japanese military.

      It's inferior because it's an F-16 airframe with radar absorbent materials on the leading edges. At least, according to the Wikipedia article to which you linked.

      The incorporation of RAM (ACs: insert lame computer-hardware related joke here) into an aircraft does not make it stealthy. Ever wondered why the F-117, B-2, and for that matter the F-22 look rather unusual? It is because shape is much more important than the coating.

      Having said this, the F-16 (and derivatives) are nevertheless remarkable aircraft. I have heard that some of the more experienced F-16 pilots have been fairly consistent in out-maneuvering the F-22 in exercises. With the introduction of stealth technologies, it is a shame to see such an incredible aircraft see the end of its line. (I would've probably said this about the P-51, too.)
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  2. Re:The water is friggin red! by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Informative

    Someone explain why the water in the picture looks red/brown?

    Probably hematite, sulfur compounds and ashes coming from the volcano. They must be mixing with the water on the ocean floor and rising with the columns of hot water.

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  3. Re:The water is friggin red! by istartedi · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because volcanos usually send up a lot of smoke and ash and crap (that's the technical term for it). The crap would usually put a lot of smoke in the air, especially from anything that burned. Since this is under water, any minerals such as iron and sulfer that might react due to the heat of the volcano, along with organic matter from dead fish, seeweed, coral, or whatever might be on the ocean floor doesn't turn into smoke. Instead, it dissolves into the water and turns it some nasty foul color, in this case reddish.

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  4. they THINK it's a volcano? by jim_v2000 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Come on people...you don't have to be a scientist to figure out that steam + discolored water = underwater volcano. I was in Hawaii a few weeks ago at Hawaii Volcanos National Park and I was lucky enough to see magma going into the ocean...that stuff puts out a buncha steam probably thousands of feet in the air and makes the water look discolored.

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    1. Re:they THINK it's a volcano? by globalar · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not to mention it is an near one of the most volcanically active regions of the world.

  5. Re:obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I for one welcome our new... what have I become? :-/

    A troll. Thanks for playing.

  6. Re:Sounds like a nice island... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Probably because Iwo Jima is a Japanese Naval Base, and you need special permission to go there, there are organizations you can pay to take you there but thats only once a year. Not to mention there is still live ordinance

  7. Re:This is a joke, right? by typobox43 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The article... even the summary... states that it's 3300 feet high.

  8. Re:This is a joke, right? by kongit · · Score: 2, Informative

    3300 ft. You ninny.

  9. Re:Its the terrorists! by apachetoolbox · · Score: 2, Informative


    well if the pacific ocean was downloading movies or music the US would have already thrown it in jail.

  10. look at the bigger picture by anagama · · Score: 2, Informative


    WA Post has an "enlargeable image" showing the plume from the side. I haven't found a bigger one yet. What I really want is video.

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    1. Re:look at the bigger picture by anagama · · Score: 3, Informative


      Google news Japan kanji for volcano search ... better pictures!

      Yahoo news for Japan with the kanji search ... some with video. ;-)

      appologies for the self reply.

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  11. Re:I saw this one by __aaxtnf2500 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Modern torpedos detonate at a significant distance from the keel of a surface target, as the initial expansion wave carries a significant portion, but not all of the potential energy the torpedo can generate. By detonating the torpedo at a deeper depth, the explosion can evacuate the water from under the keel, using the ships own weight against its (explosively) weakened structure. This effect can be seen in most of the SINKEX videos floating around the net. The ship disintegrating would be from the explosive force, not rising gases.

  12. Re:I saw this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    Thanks for the pointer. Here's a nice series of pictures with an explanation describing the effect you describe.
    I had shown these pictures to many people. My 12 year-old son, Greg, pointed out to me something no one else had noticed. He said, "Dad, there's no fire in that explosion".

    I guess this wouldn't make it in hollywood.

    The explosion happened underwater. The ship was split by the gas bubble generated.
  13. Re:I saw this one by Savant · · Score: 3, Informative

    While I'd agree in principle with the "no more accidents than expected given the shipping traffic" it seems odd that your librarian claims the Marie Celeste (or Mary Celeste, as it was before Conan Doyle got his hands on it) never existed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste

    Wikipedia seems to give an identifiable history with a lot of detail for both the ship and captain.