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Large Scale Production of Artificial Meat

Fraser Cain writes "Scientists at the University of Maryland think that large quantities of artificial meat could be produced to supply the world with animal-free meat products, like chickenless nuggets. This is based on experiments for NASA, that created small amounts of fish protein cultured from single cells. According to the researchers, larger quantities could be grown in thin sheets and then stacked up to create thickness. Of course, they need to figure out a way to exercise it to make it taste like regular meat."

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  1. Chickenless Nuggets?! by passthecrackpipe · · Score: 4, Funny

    I already get those at McDonalds today - who needs these acedemics to come up with this when you can just go out and buy it in the store?

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    1. Re:Chickenless Nuggets?! by FrontalLobe · · Score: 2, Funny

      Kryten: You're that sure they're dead? Rimmer: You've only got to look at them, they've got less meat on them than a chicken mcnugget!

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    2. Re:Chickenless Nuggets?! by chrisbro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      McDonald's I don't know about. But Wendy's is surely something strange - I've been allergic to poultry my entire life. Every year or two I'll get brave and try something else to test the waters, and Wendy's chicken leaves me unscathed. Turkey I can't eat from anywhere, though.

    3. Re:Chickenless Nuggets?! by uncoveror · · Score: 3, Funny

      This should come as a surprise to no one. The Uncoveror reported what they had done to McNuggets a long time ago! And to think, people accuse us of making up Chick'n and Treemeat.

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  2. Oh boy oh boy by Winterblink · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't wait to head down to the local supermarket and buy some "I Can't Believe It's Not Steak".

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    1. Re:Oh boy oh boy by highwindarea · · Score: 2, Funny

      What about some imitation Soylent Green. "I can't believe it's not made of people".

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  3. May I be the first to say... by Mr.G5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Soylent Green is pppeeeooopppllleee!

    1. Re:May I be the first to say... by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 2, Funny

      Soylent Green is PPPoE???

  4. Just not the same. by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Funny
    If no animal had to die for the meat, what's the point? Meat just isn't the same without the murder. ^_^
    "Broccoli will always taste like broccoli. But meat tastes like murder, and murder tastes pretty damned good, doesn't it?"
    -Denis Leary
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    1. Re:Just not the same. by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If no animal had to die for the meat, what's the point? Meat just isn't the same without the murder.

      A little more seriously...if no animal had to die for the meat, what will this mean for voluntary (PETA-style) vegetarianism or veganism? What will it mean for religious vegetarianism?

    2. Re:Just not the same. by hab136 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      A little more seriously...if no animal had to die for the meat, what will this mean for voluntary (PETA-style) vegetarianism or veganism? What will it mean for religious vegetarianism?

      Religious? Probably nothing - it's still actually meat, just carved from one giant contiually cloned, ever-living, non-sentient beast.

      PETA? They should embrace this, since the artificial meat will be non-sentient. I'm sure they'll have a problem with it though.. protesters tend to wrap up their identity in the fact that they're a protester. If you fix the problem they care about, they'll find something else to protest about, because otherwise they have to stop protesting.

      There are people that genuinely care about an issue, and aren't protesting as a lifestyle, and to those people - rock on. But many in protest organizations basically protest for a living.

    3. Re:Just not the same. by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm sure they'll have a problem with it though.. protesters tend to wrap up their identity in the fact that they're a protester. If you fix the problem they care about, they'll find something else to protest about, because otherwise they have to stop protesting.

      In reality these type of people really don't care about the issue they're protesting. They care about changing people's lifestyles. They pick what to protest so that success is most likely to change people's lifestyle to what they think it should be. Once somebody comes up with a way to satisfy the curent lifestyle requirements of the general population and the protesters demands, they move on to some other strategically chosen thing to be opposed to.

      Someday somebody will come up with a way to generate energy that, for all practical purposes, produces an infinite supply and is polution free. People will be able to use all the power to synthesize matter... Anything they want, like, a steak for example. Then they'll be able to get in their overpowered, overindulgent vehicle and go wherever they want whenever they want and break down any cultural barriers that still remain. Then all those lifestyle protesters will be forced to preach their ethical ideals like religous nuts in some godless cult of minimalism.

    4. Re:Just not the same. by ikkonoishi · · Score: 2, Funny

      Religious? Probably nothing - it's still actually meat, just carved from one giant contiually cloned, ever-living, non-sentient beast.

      Sounds like those canned trolls my D&D group used to use for emergency rations. Open the can, let it regenerate, and cut off a chunk.

    5. Re:Just not the same. by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Religious? Probably nothing - it's still actually meat, just carved from one giant contiually cloned, ever-living, non-sentient beast.

      What about vegetarianism in the spirit of ahimsa (do no harm) - not eating animals because you would be supporting killing them? Since it's not a living and sentient being, you're not harming it in any way.

      IANAB (I am not a Buddhist), though. Are there any here who'd like to respond?

  5. Re:The True Test by erlenic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think it's more likely that people won't bite even if it does taste exactly the same as real meat. It's just not the same in most people's eyes. As for me, I'll eat it if it's cheaper or significantly better tasting. I also have to be able to grill it.

  6. Get Your Wendy Burger Here by Madcapjack · · Score: 3, Funny

    Our Burgers are Made from fresh vat grown Wendy Meat. You won't get a better Wendy Meat burger any where else!

  7. And here's the theme song: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Virtual veal!
    It's not real!
    Taste'll give you zeal!
    Has a good feel!

    It can be steak!
    But yet it's fake!
    It's quick to bake!
    No animals at stake!

    Virtual veal!
    It's a good deal!
    Has lots of appeal!
    Make it your meal!

  8. It's only natural... by penguin121 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Honestly people, it's barbaric to eat animals.

    Eating meat is natural for people, and a number of other animals as well. There is nothing barbaric about eating the foods that your body is meant to. Now if you were saying the modern treatment of livestock is often barbaric, I'd be inclined to agree, but these are two different matters entirely.

  9. Re:We have no right to enslave animals! by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Funny

    Save an animal, eat a PETA member

  10. Why replace meat? by computersareevil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do those who are trying so hard to eliminate animal meat try so hard to make the replacements look, feel, and taste like meat? I've never understood that.

    1. Re:Why replace meat? by blincoln · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why do those who are trying so hard to eliminate animal meat try so hard to make the replacements look, feel, and taste like meat? I've never understood that.

      Uh... because meat generally tastes good? There are a lot of recipes that require it, or at least a reasonable facsimile? Barbecuing things is fun, and soy/wheat mock burgers and hotdogs work a lot better for that than a chunk of tofu?

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    2. Re:Why replace meat? by computersareevil · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ..or someone who doesn't want the energy content of sugar but still want sweet drinks?

      I don't think that's a good comparison because they probably don't think sugar is evil.

      I think the cigarette comparison works because people think cigarettes are evil. Remember when they tried to come out with the "safe" cigarette that didn't actually burn tobacco? Remember how people railed against it because it was emulating what they perceived as "evil"? Why do things that emulate "evil" meat get a pass? That's the crux of my question, and still unanswered.

      Especially for moral reasons - how could it be immoral to make it easier not to do whatever you think is wrong?, and not to have to sacrifice anything for it?

      If meat is immoral, isn't the promotion of meat immoral? Isn't trying to emulate meat in effect promoting is as OK? Just like candy cigarettes, "smokeless" cigarettes, toy guns, etc. that are all blamed for "promoting" a perceived evil?

  11. Maybe more economical. by vertinox · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not sure about the economics, but one would think eventually it would be cheaper to grow meat in a vat than raise a few million animals, pay for their feed, clean their waste, and then spend the time and money shipping them off to the slaughter house.

    At least it would take less energy and be more environmental friendly or don't stink up the local area...

    Ever drove by a pig farm? They have a ton by the coast in North Carolina and they don't call em pigs for nothing.

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  12. Re:The True Test by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There won't be millions of animals living in filthy terrible conditions.

    I think them not living through that by not living, would be better. But that's just an opinion.

  13. I hereby volunteer ... by Dr.+Smeegee · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... to be the seed plasm for delicious roast haunch of human.

    That way, millions of people across the earth could finally eat my butt for real, instead of my just screaming for them to do it from street corners.

  14. Re:The True Test by hab136 · · Score: 4, Funny
    I think it's more likely that people won't bite even if it does taste exactly the same as real meat. It's just not the same in most people's eyes.

    Hot dogs sell pretty well, actually.

  15. Re:We have right to enslave animals! by DougInthezoo · · Score: 3, Informative

    OK, so if the whole point of a vegan or vegetarian's lifestyle is to preserve life, ponder this. Over 100,000 animals are killed every time 1 acre of land is plowed to plant those precious soybeans. And I'm not counting insects here, just mammals, reptiles and amphibians. Mice, gophers, groundhogs, snakes, frogs, salamanders, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

    What makes a cow's life more important than the life of a frog, or a snake, or a little mouse?

    If saving life was the most important aspect of your culinary habits, then you would be eating blue whales and elephants, as one death would feed so many people.

    Yes, there is way more than a hint of sarcasm in my reply here, but I"m sick of hearing the rhetoric of vegetarians and vegans who claim that I am in some way inferior to them because I eat meat. Now, I'm far from the average. I raise, slaughter and butcher my own meat as much as I can on 5 acres. That way I know it lived an above average life, and was in optimum health at the time it died.

    Lastly, for anyone who wants to cut out all meat from their diet, please, please research B vitamins from a non-vegetarian source. B12 is something that can not be replicated by plants, and the various 'vegan' forms of B12 out there are incapable of being absorbed by the human digestive system. Side effects of B12 deficiency are: mental illness, paralysis, continual chronic pain syndromes, and virtually every other nervous disorder in the book.

    I've had friends go vegan, and can personally attest to the fact that it changes them mentally, they are plagued with depression, and physical disorders. One fried in particular keeps breaking ribs from caughing, because her bone mass dropped so quickly from malnutrition. And yet, she became so preachy about how superiour her lifestyle was.

  16. Cloning for food is good by J+Barnes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've always said that the one universal application for cloning research is the development of vat-grown meat.

    Cruelty free, vegan-friendly. It could be engineered for the perfect protein, fat and mineral content while maintaining perfect flavor.

    Imagine a sea of perfectly marbled, gristle-free beef filets.... droooool....

  17. Re:We have no right to enslave animals! by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Informative


    And if you ever wanted a reason to quit: http://www.peta.org/

    Please see http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/topics.do?topic=peta
    Peta are a bunch of lying fanatics.

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  18. Schools and prisons by davidwr · · Score: 5, Funny

    If it's cheap, nutritious, and almost tasty expect to see it in public schools.

    If it's cheap, nutritious, and gross, expect to see it in prisons.

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  19. Re:Dildos ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Finally, a post that really begs for a "WTF?!" mod to be added.

  20. Mod parent "uninformative" by quinto2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh come on, this is absurd.

    Do you realize how many more resources -- land and fresh water -- are consumed in producing meat than in producing vegetable crops? Livestock are either fed other livestock or vegetable crops. There is no possible way to use fewer resources to produce a pound of animal protein vs a pound of soy protein.

    That ethical reason is what motivates me in limiting my meat intake to fish and chicken and limiting my intake of those as much as I can. The most resources are used in producing red meat, followed by pork, then fish and chicken, but a pure-vegetable diet uses the least.

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  21. Re:Efficiency? by raygundan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My gut instinct says the same thing, but I'm practical about things and won't call it "fact" until I've seen some numbers.

    Mmmm... beer.