But... it's CO2. It helps trees and other plants grow. Other things like CO, HC, NOx, and PMs are bad (damage human lungs), but CO2 can be breathed without harm. If we ignore the global warming aspect, then there's no reason to stop filling the air with CO2. Is there?
oh go ahead and breathe co2 and test your claim that breathing it causes no harm!
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Are they moving these thermometers from cooler places, over the years to ever warmer places? If not, then they may get a hot reading, but, over the years, it will be uniformly hot, and they will not be able to report climate change from that.
that is a very good point. we do have to be concerned with increases in temp associated with urbanization, even though that is part of the picture of global warming.
Good point granted. But I would argue that this average probably reflects the following situation: they're probably half students/young people, half are very old people living off of social security and whatever meager savings or pensions they've managed to acquire. This would also presumably account for any high variance in the products purchased. It would also account for the surprisingly high amount spent on medical expenses. In any case, you have hardly have shown that the distribution in these income brackets are either more unreasonable or remarkably different than those found in other higher income brackets. I am simply not convinced by your explanation that they are, "spending they're welfare checks on dumb shit."
Though I would include spending money on gigantic homes, expensive cars, expensive clothing, and other luxury items as also spending money on "dumb shit"- or at least "unimaginative" spending.
As for cigarettes: young people here in the US don't smoke much, and people who smoke generally don't get too old...
This (table 2) shows the very lowest income bracket spends more on random things then the two brackets above it. While the other demographics seem proportionate to their income with some skewing due to the cost of living.
First off, the differences you are talking about don't jump out at me as I peruse the table you linked to. But I do note the following things: the lowest income bracket is
In fact, the average annual expenditure for this group is $19,000, a sight more than their income of $5000.
What does this mean? They're students and young people trying to get laid, you dolt.
Even if one could demonstrate unequivocally how religious experiences occur in the brain, one has not yet demonstrated that god doesn't exist, or any other such wash. I suppose an inner experience of the taste of an apple means that apples do not exist? Or more to the point, a good materialist takes for granted that something has to happen in the brain for one to experience something, that there can be no change in mental state without some corresponding change in brain state. Thus, it's nothing shocking that a religious experience should correspond to some brain state. Imagine that god exists and one is currently experiencing the presence of that entity. Then it would only be natural to suppose that something is occurring in one's brain allowing one to have such an experience. More simply, the evidence does not serve to differentiate between the two hypotheses that god exists or that god doesn't exist, because both have the same consequences in the experiment.
blah blah blah
but hey where can i get one of those helmets? Might be good thing to wear when riding my bike.
That's idiotic, and I ain't no troll. déclassé, sh-t!
What makes a "upper-class" patois more "correct" than a "lower-class" langue? You're wearing underwear on your head and calling it a crown. The silly things y'all put on your heads! Resembles what comes out yer arses, except they say its purpler and more royal than that shat out by Don Quixote's pal Sancho's donkey, hote Dapple.
Ok, so why did the EU's carbon-dioxide emissions increase by so much in 2000-2004? Could it have been in part because the EU expanded during this time to include, for example, Poland? Does anyone here know what the status is on this?
I have students submit their programming assignments to me in Word 2007 format. Unfortunately, since I cannot read them and they don't follow my instructions to submit their assignments as plain old text, they do not receive credit. Too bad, so sad. either txt rtf or pdf. kiss
Its like no-one here has ever played chess on a PC.
Anyway...
Perhaps the most acceptable definition of highbrow which would make this discussion meaningful is: thought-provoking, meaningful, and aesthetically superb. Not merely amusing. Nor simply addictive.
There are actually quite a few games which fulfill the first requirement. Certainly many games require a lot of thought to play well- strategy games, puzzles, some board games: some of my favorite examples: Space Empires, Civilization, Age of Empires, Tetris...But most of these games do not provoke thought about real things. I think i read someone here say that Age of Empires of Civilization offered real insights. I wonder. Certainly not on cultural and social evolution. Maybe on logistics, a little. These games tend to reinforce folk models rather than challenge them. Most games avoid tackling real issues.
I would call a game meaningful if a week after you finish it you felt that you would have been less to have missed the experience. Hey, I spent 2 months delving into the pits of Angband, killed Morgoth, am ranked in the top hundred or so on the Angband ladder, and just after accomplishing the feat, shrugged and said, "That was a waste of my time." (Gam is my character, all praise appreciated).
As for aesthetically superb- certainly a lot of games are visually pleasing- but I wouldn't call this aesthetically superb. Certainly a game like Star Control II is a well-designed game with very well written dialogue and plot (very witty), but I hesitate to call it highbrow.
I am in total agreement with your sentiment. I believe wholeheartedly that governments should send paper copies of all new law to as many households that they are able to, and that citizens should also be notified where they can find all pre-existing law. I believe that government has the obligation to inform its citizens of the law of the land.
There are relevant differences between indentured servitude and slavery, as it existed in the U.S., and its impact today. Most obviously, indentured servitude doesn't have a racial component to it, and, as far as I understand, indentured servitude did not have an ideology of innate superiority/inferiority attached to it. Furthermore, as far as I know, there is no segment of the U.S. population today which is readily identifiable as being the descendents of indentured servants- nor are there any identifiable groups who suffer *today* from its legacy. This is not to justify indentured servitude! But, I might also add two things: slavery was permanent, and much more demeaning, and indentured servitude was often a contract between two willing parties. For example, individuals who could not pay passage to the New World would pay for said passage by agreeing to a period of bondage for so many years, etc.
I've always wanted to install such a camera in my car, so that I have a recording of any interaction between cop and myself. Not that I have such encounters frequently- last time i was stopped was about 8 years ago for a minor traffic violation. i think the reason i don't is that i'm pretty sure the cop would get uber-pissed off. see, a lot of cops don't like to be monitored- it would mean that they would have to do their job better. afterall, if it came down to my word against his or hers, then almost any jury will side with the law.
Sure, not all cops are assholes. I believe you. Only about half of the ones I've met were. Some were really helpful, really. Others were unneccesarily rude, threatening, and yes, racist. sometimes its hard to blame them, since yeah, they are stressed out a lot, and deal with the pricks of society regularly. more than that- a lot of folks don't like to even hang out with off-duty cops- who feels comfortable with the law breathing down your shoulder all the time? but I do blame them. i blame the bad cops for being bad, and the good cops for not doing much about the bad cops. its not like it isn't in my family- my uncle was a cop, and a complete jerk who liked to scare the holy shit out of little kids, and endulged in a few shady activities. So should cops be painted with so broad a brush? no, but they ought to start thinking about why so many people are ready to do so- without going into lame excuses, much less about being misunderstood.
and yes, a lot of on duty cops regularly violate traffic laws- and it pisses a lot of people off.
You went to a room filled with "climate change experts."
Sorry, that's entirely mistaken. "Global warming experts" is not what was said. Climate change refers to both cooling and warming of the climate. We already know that the earth's climate has changed in all kinds of ways in its history, and we have climate change experts who know all about it.
>I agree that humanity is a transient state. Life is an ongoing process, and counter to all of our >mythology, we are not the crowning achievement of that process, we are just a part of it. We are simply >the first sentient species. It is possible that other species will become sentient and technological after >we are gone, or that we will continue to evolve as the only, or perhaps the dominant, sentient life form >on our planet.
We are not the first sentient species.
Sentience is the capability of experiencing emotion, or the property of consciousness. I wouldn't deny these to all sorts of mammals.
Secondly and more obviously, we are only the latest species in a long line (or tree) of hominid species. Lot of them were sentient too.
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But... it's CO2. It helps trees and other plants grow. Other things like CO, HC, NOx, and PMs are bad (damage human lungs), but CO2 can be breathed without harm. If we ignore the global warming aspect, then there's no reason to stop filling the air with CO2. Is there?
oh go ahead and breathe co2 and test your claim that breathing it causes no harm! lol
Are they moving these thermometers from cooler places, over the years to ever warmer places? If not, then they may get a hot reading, but, over the years, it will be uniformly hot, and they will not be able to report climate change from that.
that is a very good point. we do have to be concerned with increases in temp associated with urbanization, even though that is part of the picture of global warming.
Cut out a couple of holes and you've got a cool Halloween costume.
Good point granted. But I would argue that this average probably reflects the following situation: they're probably half students/young people, half are very old people living off of social security and whatever meager savings or pensions they've managed to acquire. This would also presumably account for any high variance in the products purchased. It would also account for the surprisingly high amount spent on medical expenses. In any case, you have hardly have shown that the distribution in these income brackets are either more unreasonable or remarkably different than those found in other higher income brackets. I am simply not convinced by your explanation that they are, "spending they're welfare checks on dumb shit."
Though I would include spending money on gigantic homes, expensive cars, expensive clothing, and other luxury items as also spending money on "dumb shit"- or at least "unimaginative" spending.
As for cigarettes: young people here in the US don't smoke much, and people who smoke generally don't get too old...
First off, the differences you are talking about don't jump out at me as I peruse the table you linked to. But I do note the following things: the lowest income bracket is
In fact, the average annual expenditure for this group is $19,000, a sight more than their income of $5000.
What does this mean? They're students and young people trying to get laid, you dolt.
Even if one could demonstrate unequivocally how religious experiences occur in the brain, one has not yet demonstrated that god doesn't exist, or any other such wash. I suppose an inner experience of the taste of an apple means that apples do not exist? Or more to the point, a good materialist takes for granted that something has to happen in the brain for one to experience something, that there can be no change in mental state without some corresponding change in brain state. Thus, it's nothing shocking that a religious experience should correspond to some brain state. Imagine that god exists and one is currently experiencing the presence of that entity. Then it would only be natural to suppose that something is occurring in one's brain allowing one to have such an experience. More simply, the evidence does not serve to differentiate between the two hypotheses that god exists or that god doesn't exist, because both have the same consequences in the experiment. blah blah blah but hey where can i get one of those helmets? Might be good thing to wear when riding my bike.
That's idiotic, and I ain't no troll. déclassé, sh-t!
What makes a "upper-class" patois more "correct" than a "lower-class" langue? You're wearing underwear on your head and calling it a crown. The silly things y'all put on your heads! Resembles what comes out yer arses, except they say its purpler and more royal than that shat out by Don Quixote's pal Sancho's donkey, hote Dapple.
Heck what kind of weapon would you get anyway? a hunting rifle?
It's all about copwatch.
Ok, so why did the EU's carbon-dioxide emissions increase by so much in 2000-2004? Could it have been in part because the EU expanded during this time to include, for example, Poland? Does anyone here know what the status is on this?
I have students submit their programming assignments to me in Word 2007 format. Unfortunately, since I cannot read them and they don't follow my instructions to submit their assignments as plain old text, they do not receive credit. Too bad, so sad. either txt rtf or pdf. kiss
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Anyway...
Perhaps the most acceptable definition of highbrow which would make this discussion meaningful is: thought-provoking, meaningful, and aesthetically superb. Not merely amusing. Nor simply addictive.
There are actually quite a few games which fulfill the first requirement. Certainly many games require a lot of thought to play well- strategy games, puzzles, some board games: some of my favorite examples: Space Empires, Civilization, Age of Empires, Tetris...But most of these games do not provoke thought about real things. I think i read someone here say that Age of Empires of Civilization offered real insights. I wonder. Certainly not on cultural and social evolution. Maybe on logistics, a little. These games tend to reinforce folk models rather than challenge them. Most games avoid tackling real issues.
I would call a game meaningful if a week after you finish it you felt that you would have been less to have missed the experience. Hey, I spent 2 months delving into the pits of Angband, killed Morgoth, am ranked in the top hundred or so on the Angband ladder, and just after accomplishing the feat, shrugged and said, "That was a waste of my time." (Gam is my character, all praise appreciated).
As for aesthetically superb- certainly a lot of games are visually pleasing- but I wouldn't call this aesthetically superb. Certainly a game like Star Control II is a well-designed game with very well written dialogue and plot (very witty), but I hesitate to call it highbrow.
I stand corrected.
I am in total agreement with your sentiment. I believe wholeheartedly that governments should send paper copies of all new law to as many households that they are able to, and that citizens should also be notified where they can find all pre-existing law. I believe that government has the obligation to inform its citizens of the law of the land.
There are relevant differences between indentured servitude and slavery, as it existed in the U.S., and its impact today. Most obviously, indentured servitude doesn't have a racial component to it, and, as far as I understand, indentured servitude did not have an ideology of innate superiority/inferiority attached to it. Furthermore, as far as I know, there is no segment of the U.S. population today which is readily identifiable as being the descendents of indentured servants- nor are there any identifiable groups who suffer *today* from its legacy. This is not to justify indentured servitude! But, I might also add two things: slavery was permanent, and much more demeaning, and indentured servitude was often a contract between two willing parties. For example, individuals who could not pay passage to the New World would pay for said passage by agreeing to a period of bondage for so many years, etc.
I've always wanted to install such a camera in my car, so that I have a recording of any interaction between cop and myself. Not that I have such encounters frequently- last time i was stopped was about 8 years ago for a minor traffic violation. i think the reason i don't is that i'm pretty sure the cop would get uber-pissed off. see, a lot of cops don't like to be monitored- it would mean that they would have to do their job better. afterall, if it came down to my word against his or hers, then almost any jury will side with the law.
Sure, not all cops are assholes. I believe you. Only about half of the ones I've met were. Some were really helpful, really. Others were unneccesarily rude, threatening, and yes, racist. sometimes its hard to blame them, since yeah, they are stressed out a lot, and deal with the pricks of society regularly. more than that- a lot of folks don't like to even hang out with off-duty cops- who feels comfortable with the law breathing down your shoulder all the time? but I do blame them. i blame the bad cops for being bad, and the good cops for not doing much about the bad cops. its not like it isn't in my family- my uncle was a cop, and a complete jerk who liked to scare the holy shit out of little kids, and endulged in a few shady activities. So should cops be painted with so broad a brush? no, but they ought to start thinking about why so many people are ready to do so- without going into lame excuses, much less about being misunderstood. and yes, a lot of on duty cops regularly violate traffic laws- and it pisses a lot of people off.
Sorry, that's entirely mistaken. "Global warming experts" is not what was said. Climate change refers to both cooling and warming of the climate. We already know that the earth's climate has changed in all kinds of ways in its history, and we have climate change experts who know all about it.
>I agree that humanity is a transient state. Life is an ongoing process, and counter to all of our >mythology, we are not the crowning achievement of that process, we are just a part of it. We are simply >the first sentient species. It is possible that other species will become sentient and technological after >we are gone, or that we will continue to evolve as the only, or perhaps the dominant, sentient life form >on our planet. We are not the first sentient species. Sentience is the capability of experiencing emotion, or the property of consciousness. I wouldn't deny these to all sorts of mammals. Secondly and more obviously, we are only the latest species in a long line (or tree) of hominid species. Lot of them were sentient too.
>Serious science has existed only for about 200 years. It is definitely by itself not part of human nature. I'll second that.
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