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Sony drops Router Functions from PS3

astrokid writes "Well, it has begun. Sony announced that the PlayStation 3 will no longer act as a home network router. How long before more news trickles in about the downgrading of other features?" From the GI.biz article: "Whether that means the bank of network ports on the back of the box has actually been reduced to a single port is not clear, however, as the company has previously hinted that it has other plans in mind for the multiple network ports."

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  1. Probably not BOM cost, but service cost by wowbagger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This decision is probably not driven by the Bill Of Material cost, but the service cost.

    The BOM cost is the cost of the parts to build a gizmo - in this case the cost to have a couple of extra ports is going to be pretty small - on the close order of US$10. While for a device that is targeting US$500 or less that is not trivial, it is not a huge value either.

    The service cost is the cost of all the consumers calling in saying "I cain't git this here thimagigitt to work!" Making this thing be a router while it plays games would increase the software complexity (basically, it would have to be running the Linux kernel all the time, and would have to NOT reboot between games - a paradigm shift for game designers).

    So they probably decided that the router idea just wasn't worth the hassle.

  2. Short horn by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sony will drop features until the PS3 specs are identical with those of Windows Codename Longhorn.

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  3. Looks like PS2 pattern by Utopia · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sony has a history of doing this sort of thing.

    They promised a lot for PS2 too.
    But features got dropped when it was finally released.

    Same with PSX.

    1. Re:Looks like PS2 pattern by Keeper · · Score: 2, Informative

      Missing PS2 "features"/hype:

      http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9909/14/ps2.idg/
      - Type III PC slot
      - "new distribution system for music and video"; internet music service

      http://www.stp.uh.edu/vol65/47/features/features-i ndex.html
      http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/09/13/sony_puts_ playstation/
      - PS2 will have an ethernet port
      - download games online
      - online delivery of music and movies
      - ability to connect digital cameras and other media devices

      http://arstechnica.com/cpu/1q99/playstation2-io.ht ml
      - claims 100% backwards compatible

      Do I really have to go back and find you quotes on the number of systems they claimed would be available on launch, the library of titles they claimed they would have, how they repeatedly said it would be 6 times faster than the fastest Pentium III, how they claimed it was capable of rendering movie quality graphics in realtime, etc, etc, etc.

      They threw out much more crap than this, but it is difficult to hunt down content from 1999 and 2000 that still exists...

  4. Dropped to make cheaper by TheRedHorse · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you RTFA, you'd find they dropped it because it was too expensive to manufacture, so I would think they are removing at least 1 if not 2 of the gigabit ports, what does your average consumer need 3 gigabit ports for anyway?

    I'd much rather see a more affordable PS3 than a do-everything PS3.

  5. Why? by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why did the PS3 function as a router in the first place? Last time I checked, the reason I would buy a PS3 is to play games on my TV, and I really don't want my enterainment center doubling as my switch rack. I've got enough wires behind it as it is, without bringing in a bundle of CAT-5 as well. The best place for a router is in a closet somewhere, so I don't have to see the half dozen or so wires comming into it.
    I think that this "feature" is another example of Sony and Microsoft pushing way too hard for the "media center" idea rather than making a good game console. We don't need an all-in-one device that does a bunch of different things, but none of them really well. Just give me a game console, where I can pop a disc/cartridge/whatever in, push a button or two and I am pointlessly slaughtering aliens/demons/humans. I have a DVD player, I will soon have a MythTV box, I have a nice NAT/router box, what the hell do I need these features in my PS3 for?

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    1. Re:Why? by daVinci1980 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Yes, but that seems like a case of the right hand not knowing what the left is doing.

      Sony has already eloquently solved the problem of bringing together multiple gaming units and wanting to play games together.

      The PSP has wireless. Ad hoc doesn't even require any setup. Don't give me 3 gigabit ports on the back. Give me one (if you must) and wireless access.

      And anyone who tells you that there is any appreciable lag in wireless connections is full of crap. This is the pingout from my linux box back to my desktop, which is connected across an 802.11g connection:
      PING 192.168.1.2 (192.168.1.2) from 192.168.1.1 : 56(84) bytes of data.
      64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=0.877 ms
      64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=1.00 ms
      64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.855 ms
      64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.858 ms
      64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=5 ttl=128 time=0.845 ms
      64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_seq=6 ttl=128 time=0.874 ms

      --- 192.168.1.2 ping statistics ---
      6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% loss, time 5006ms
      rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.845/0.885/1.003/0.058 ms
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  6. Good by finkployd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In other news Linksys announced that their routers will not support playing Doom3 on them.

    If I want a router, I will buy a router. If I want a video game system I will buy a video game system. Making something more expensive by adding features that make absolutely no sense is not going to get my to buy your product. Frankly it wouldn't bother me if today's video game systems couldn't play DVDs either (although I understand why they do, it practically costs nothing to add that when you are using DVD media anyway). What I REALLY want to see is backward compatibility with older systems, which Sony seems to understand. Microsoft clearly does not.

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  8. And... by All_Star25 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is why it's not always a good idea to throw a list of all the features a gaming console will have too far ahead of its release date. When you make a bunch of claims ahead of time and then are confronted by issues, it's time to eat some crow.

  9. Re:Easy . . . by Phisbut · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Maybe not, but it just proves Nintendo's point. So long before the launch of the next-gen consoles, there's no point in hyping features that won't make it in (Longhorn anyone?).

    Lots of people complained that Nintendo didn't reveal anything about the Revolution at the E3, and that it would lose the console war because the PS3 and the Xbox360 have so many cool features... Well guess what, not only did Sony just get one less cool feature, but they also just got bad publicity.

    Did you really expect to see everything they bragged about at the E3 actually become reality?

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  10. Re:Easy . . . by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Did you really expect to see everything they bragged about at the E3 actually become reality?"

    Yes, and I also want a pony. :)

  11. This is immaterial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sony has already established themselves (in the mind of the press and public) as the "most advanced console" for the new generation. Having accomplished this through their littany of features and faked gameplay videos, we will now see Sony move back from their original claims: Less features, lower performance, etc.

    I suggest this is brilliant marketing by one of the world's leading electronics companies, and it won't hurt them a bit.

    Personally, it ticks me off, but hats off to them for playing *us* so well.