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GTA Sex Game Debate Intensifies

The ESRB kerfluffle with Rockstar shows no signs of ebbing. Gamespot is reporting that a watchdog group has gotten into the act. From the article: "The Minneapolis-based watchdog group, founded by Dr. David Walsh, previously decried the game for its glorification of cop-killing with an online petition. Now the group is issuing a National Parental Warning for the game, giving concerned mothers and fathers a heads-up that their children could be playing with their joysticks in an inappropriate way. The National Institute on Media and the Family joins an already active debate on the game, its content, and the appropriateness of its current M rating." Additionally, the Dutch hacker who claims to have uncovered the game content has been identified. From the article: "...the mod was authored by 36-year-old Patrick Wildenborg, a Dutch gamer and a member of the modder community...Wildenborg insists that the X-rated code is already in the game and that all his patch does is bypass the game's 'censor flags.'" Among many others, Game Girl Advance has commentary on the story.

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  1. Joysticks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "that their children could be playing with their joysticks in an inappropriate way."

    This came out way wayyy wrong.

  2. An interesting read. by Gen.+Rasputin+X · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Game Girl Advance provides two solid viewpoints on the issue.

    One is the whole "It was locked out, had to be hacked to access" issue.

    And the other, "It was still on the final master disc when it shipped."

    It's a tough question, should the ESRB have access to all materials on the master disc? or just the materials that are available to anyone who doesn't attempt to hack the game?

    However, GTA : SA is a Mature game, at least in terms of rating, and as far as I've seen, the sex, though more explict than that found in most video games isn't a big deal.

    But then again, I'm one of those whackos who doesn't have a problem with sex.

    And one of those who finds a certain catharsis through violence.

  3. This is pure STUPID by fluor2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    America, wake up! You should do something about the VIOLENCE, not the SEX! America has FAR MANY PEOPLE KILLED EACH DAY, still organizations seem to care about nudity issues.

    1. Re:This is pure STUPID by redwiregmail · · Score: 5, Informative

      FBI Crime Statistics for year ending 2004: Nationaly Reported Violent Crimes: 258,000,968 Department of Justice Statistics: National Reported Criminal "Lewd Acts" 148,011 I think you might be onto something there :p

    2. Re:This is pure STUPID by MindStalker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've worked with Europeans, and Middle Easteners, and they both have things you can't say to them because you might "trigger them off". Thats just how people are, they have their beliefs, wrong as they may be. That they hold onto and don't want messed with. Its a Human thing.

  4. It's a Mature game +18 why warn parents? by anakin513 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm confused. GTA has been a Mature rated game, meaning 18 and older for a long time. How about we educate the parents, to take an interest in what their children are doing, and stop buying inappropriate games for them.

    Sit down and play the games that your kid is playing, who cares if you're not interested, at least you won't be blind sided by your ignorance, when something like this comes out of left field.

    Take an interest in your kids activities, and you won't have 12 year olds, playing games with organized crime, prostitution, assassinations and sex.

    I think it's called parenting.

    1. Re:It's a Mature game +18 why warn parents? by tomstdenis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's much easier to blame others than to actually take responsibility.

      I don't know about kids now but I stopped getting a fixed allowance when I was 10 [and even then it was only a couple bucks a week, basically enough to go out and buy balsa wood planes or pop or something], had to either beg or work for the things I bought when I was a teenager.

      I remember working a few months at Zellers [Canadian version of Walmart] to buy a Cyrix MII computer to call my own...

      If the parents just stopped writing off their children they wouldn't have this shit to worry about.

      It isn't as if GTA is $5 or something. It usually sells for between 40 and 60 dollars. That's a shit load of cash for a 12 yr old kid.

      But furthermore what I hate about these right wing "save the children" groups is

      - Kids can't play video games because they will get violent tendencies

      but

      - War is heroic and patriotic
      - Must fight the war on $NOUN_OR_OFTEN_VERB

      Parents have no problems sending 17, 18, 19 yr old kids off to Iraq to get shot up and permenantly damaged. But if a 15 yr old plays GTA ... well that's the end of the free world as we know it.

      Also I'm tired of this "kid world" we live in. I pay for cable, not 12 yr old kids. Fuck them. I want tits and explosions and hard core shit on tv. Why should it be all power rangers and FCC censored can't say "fuck" bullshit.

      Maybe if all the american teenagers/kids started paying for cable, movies, video games instead of us adults it would be different.

      In short, fuck kids and their hyperactive irresponsible parents too.

      Tom

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    2. Re:It's a Mature game +18 why warn parents? by arkanes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In one of the articles, one of the sky-falling guys blathers about how "any internet-savvy child could unlock this terrible pornography yadda yadda yadda". Who here thinks that "an internet savvy child" who wants porn can't find it *without* resorting to modding his video games?

  5. Pathetic by RasendeRutje · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The game is rated 18+, and only after installing a patch the 'naughty bits' become available.
    There a thousands of 18+ movies/site with far more explicit sex scenes, and far more easily accessible.

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  6. This is ridiculous!!! by mindaktiviti · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, gamers can play basketball, play pool, dance, grab some fast food, buy clothes, work out at the gym, base jump, have girlfriends, and race remote-controlled cars--all completely legal activities in the real world. However, the game's main character can also shoot innocent bystanders, stomp the heads of prostitutes into a bloody pulp, and launch rocket-propelled grenades at police helicopters--all decidedly illegal outside the realm of gaming

    There are crimes being committed inside a video game!!! Well gee, who would have thought that crimes could possibly be committed in a video game, why can't we think of the children!?

    I will agree, the actual sex stuff is really unecessary and I don't personally think it adds any real value to the game, but that's as far as they should go. They shouldn't yell about being able to kill prostitutes, or shoot police helicopters with grenade launchers (where's this grenade launcher anyway?). You can do that to pedestrians and villians as well, and it's the open ended gameplay that people love and not the sex mod that gets them hooked on the game.

  7. What I think... by mindaktiviti · · Score: 4, Funny

    The National Institute on Media and the Family should wake up and smell the (hot) coffee. :P

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  9. Oh my GOD by gullevek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    millions and millions of young people now see how sex works. They will try it out, have sex and not buy guns and kill or whatever. They will have sex.
    Right now millions of people do have sex. Almost everybody on this globe has, had, will have, has right now sex. Sex is everywhere. We reproduce through this.
    And those american morons have nothing better to do than whine about such a stupid mini-game?
    I think those people have a too god life. They should be sent to some poor areas in the world. Live there for 5 years in shelters, boxes and eat the dirt and trash from the others. I am sure they will never ever complain about such a stupid useless thing again.

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