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HP Invents A New Way To Print

Sushant Bhatia writes "Forbes is reporting that HP is introducing new technology in its inkjet printers that should help the company and consumers save time and money. If successful, the strategy may alter the economics of the printer market. The new inkjet platform, which will initially be geared toward the high end of the market, will incorporate the print head in the printer itself rather than in the ink cartridge. It means cheaper prints for consumers (about 24 cents per photo print) and faster output. HP says it has more than halved the time it takes to print a 4-inch-by-6-inch photo, to 14 seconds. The press release from HP has details on the new technology."

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  1. Photolithography by Short+Circuit · · Score: 5, Informative

    Print-head-in-printer has been around for a long time. The advance they've made is using photolithography for more of the construction process.

    1. Re:Photolithography by spectre_240sx · · Score: 3, Informative

      Please, get your facts straight. For one thing, inkjets are way too slow for that type of use. They just wouldn't be able to handle the load of customers. Secondly, they cost too much. Better printers can make your prints for much less than an inkjet costs. How much do you think they pay for those $0.19 prints? Last of all, have you taken a look at a print from a mini-lab? There's a noticable difference.

      Most mini-labs use either a dye-sub or some type of lightjet process to make their prints. Not the best quality you can get, but far greater than that of an inkjet for glossy prints. Not to mention the fact that they're about 10 times faster.

  2. Informative Article by vmcto · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nice article about the new system and printer here.

  3. Print head in the printer itself? by Alyred · · Score: 5, Informative

    How is this "inventing" a new way to print? Hasn't Epson been doing this for years in their printers?

    I know when I replace my printer cartridge on my Epson I just replace the ink, unlike the old HP I used to have where I replaced the head every time.

    Of course, this might be a new thing for HP to sell new printers, as when the ink dries in the head the whole printer has to be replaced. One of the downsides that we've always had to deal with in an Epson.

    -Alyred

  4. ..and Gates invented the PC. by teknickle · · Score: 4, Informative

    Epson has had print heads in the inkjet printers for a long time. That's why the ink cartridges are only $7 retail (I got a dozen for ~$15 on ebay).

    Canon used to have theirs seperate from the little ink wells so that you could replace the heads independent of each other.

    The 'heads' are just micro-voltage actuated valves. The ones built into cartridge heads have short lifetimes (hence why you shouldn't refill more than 3 or 4 times). The quality of heads in the Epson are much sturdier, but then you waste alot of ink trying to purge clogged valves.

    I used to work on a LARGE printer (printed directly to custom cardboard boxes). The printheads were made by Marsh printing (~400 just to have them repacked) and was bigger than my fist. (can you see me clenching).

    Anyway, not a new idea. Just a 'new specific implementation'.

  5. Please stup the marketing! by imsabbel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Come on! "New Way to Print" my ASS.
    This is just corporate newspeak saying "we are taking over the technique our closest competitors have been using since 1995".

    Single ink tanks&co arent innovative in any way. The same with permanent printing heads. It was just HPs idea of product marketing up to now to maximize running costs by making everything disposable.

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  6. Canon is better than both by WD_40 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Canon has a printhead that is seperate from the ink carts, but also replaceable if it gets fouled up, thus allowing you to replace only the parts that need it.

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  7. Re:cheaper ink??? by Andrew+Tanenbaum · · Score: 3, Informative

    By taking the print head out of the cartridge, this does make the carts cheaper.

  8. Re:cheaper ink??? by eclectro · · Score: 3, Informative

    now if they could just lower the price on ink cartridges. 45 bucks to refill my ink is a bit steep

    RTFA. They are coming out with a lowend printer that will have black and color cartridges at $15 and $18, with the printer costing $50.

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  9. Re:The Best Way To Print... by DogDude · · Score: 3, Informative

    Still totally unrealistic for businesses, but nice try.

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  10. Yes, what IS new about this? STARTED this way. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Informative

    How is this "inventing" a new way to print? Hasn't Epson been doing this for years in their printers?

    Heck: The first inkjet printer I ever dealt with was back in the early '70s, when they had just been invented. It was a prototype with a spinning drum holding the paper, a carriage with the ultrasonic-driven spitters, and three bottles hooked to the carriage by flexible tubes.

    Quite an advance at the time. B-)

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  11. hardly news by Atilla · · Score: 3, Informative

    so what? other manufacturers have been doing this forever.

    also, there is a much higher chance of the nozzles getting clogged on a built-in head system (people with cheap lexmarks and canons know what i'm talking about). I actually prefer having the printhead on the cartridge - you'll never have to throw the printer away if the jets have been clogged with dried ink.

    It is possible to clean them out sometimes by running some isopropyl through the heads instead of ink, but i've run in to several printers that got caked up so bad that nothing would clean them.

    I wish that the printer manufacturers would make the HEADS and the CARTRIDGES easy to replace. On most of them, you have to take the carriage assembly half way apart to get the heads to slide off.

    on a side note, I don't think that inkjet market is going to change direction any time soon - they make most of their money on cartridges. As long as you'll be able to buy a printer for $39 at wallyworld, ink will not be cheap.

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  12. Laserjets are worthless for photos. by RedBear · · Score: 4, Informative

    They will just jack up the ink price further to make the final price even again. Makes me think the whole reason the head was on the cartridge was to make thirdparty cartridges difficult to make or copy.

    We should all be exclusively using laserjets anyway, why is anyone happy the inkjet technology has a new lease on life?


    Where I work we have a $2,400 HP color laser printer. I also have experience with a color laser printer at a local university that I'm sure cost about twice that much. Both are absolutely worthless for printing photos. Any $50 inkjet photo printer can kick their ass for photo printing, not on speed or cost but on how the prints look. The worst inkjets I've ever seen didn't print photos as badly as the laserjets do.

    Graphs and charts? Sure, go color laser, if you can afford the initial investment which will be around $500 at a minimum. Laserjets are great with big blocks of color, and cheaper over the long run. But a $99 Epson inkjet that uses Ultrachrome inks will get you an archival quality photo print with incredible color gamut and accuracy, and should last 70-200 years depending on what paper you use. If you print 8x10 or larger most of the time it's also cheaper than using a commercial photo printing service.

    For monochrome and non-photo color business printing, laserjets all the way. For home and business photo printing there really isn't an alternative to inkjet besides dye sublimation, and dye-sub printers are expensive and very inflexible, plus studies show that dye-sub prints fade almost as fast as most inkjet prints.

    It's all about using the right tool for the job.