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Optimus Keyboard With OLED Display Keys

Koskun writes "What appears to be a Russian design company has on their website a keyboard in which the keys are using OLED to display what function the keys represent. The product is Art. Lebedev Studio's Optimus Keyboard. The uses of this could be amazing. They have pictures of layouts for Photoshop and Quake, as well as a QWERTY and Russian. Here's hoping that this will make it to a production model and not just a design model."

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  1. Good Idea, Bad Price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

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    It's not even a "design model". It's a "rendered model". Sweet concept. You'd spend a bloody fortune on 116 individual color OLED displays - in several sizes - and all the circuitry, interfacing, and drivers to run them. I see that they are Macintosh fans, though.

    1. Re:Good Idea, Bad Price by Gnascher · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's a great idea ... but utterly fake.

      These guys are digital artists ... not keyboard manufacturers.

      It's a really neat idea, and one that may even some day be created. I'd imagine that it would be prohibitively expensive to do today though.

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    2. Re:Good Idea, Bad Price by Paladin128 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Spoken like a person who doesn't type much.

      Tactile feel is everything. That's why I insist on spending extra on old-fashioned clicky keyboards. A laptop keyboard alone is enough to have my fingers hurting after just a couple hours of typing. I can do 12 hours straight on my Unicomp Customizer 101 -- the buckling-spring recoil is much better for your fingers, and actually increases the speed you type. Type on a completely flat surface for a couple hours a day, and you'll develop RSI faster than you can say "shiny".

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    3. Re:Good Idea, Bad Price by xinit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why does it always have to be like Star Trek? That interface system is awful; nothing like the tactile response of a glass screen.

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    4. Re:Good Idea, Bad Price by geschild · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And suddenly you are well on your way to an early version of the LCARS interface ;)

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    5. Re:Good Idea, Bad Price by raarky · · Score: 3, Insightful

      try thinking outside the box for a moment. Who says the displays inside the keys have to move with the key. You could simply have the outside transparent shell push down around the display which would be flush mounted on circuit board.

  2. Licensing/Implications? by shadowknot · · Score: 3, Insightful
    If anyone reading works for Logitech or some other big peripheral manufacturer please let your R&D department know about this and maybe they can license the design and technology from the good people at art.lebedev.

    But seriously this technology could have huge implications for the future of peripheral manufacturing (on the high-end at least) purely because you can have it as QWERTY, AZERTY, DVORAK or any other english, arabic, cyrillic, sanscrit, klingon or other layout!

    For the cheapskates there's always Das Keyboard!

  3. I can't imagine... by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How this thing won't have a manufacturing cost around $3-4 a key...

    That said... If they build these and they have good action, I'll drop $500 on one.

  4. I want one of these NOW! by concept10 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    .. Is this just a proof of concept vaporware?

    I didnt see anything about purchase information.

  5. Prefer normal one by mfloy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you ask me, I prefer the good old fashion keyboards with no special buttons, lights, whistles or what-not. Those keyboards seem like they would be fun until the lights stop working.

  6. "Patents pending"? by tepples · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I sure hope the patent applies only to high-resolution or color displays inside the keyboard, as many Slashdot users have "published" (in patent jargon) a description of a reconfigurable keyboard with a small (e.g. 8x8 pixel) monochrome LCD under each key.

  7. Re:The keyboard's cool... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Evidently in terms of mouse design, they learned nothing from apple's hockey-puck mouses that shipped with the original Imacs...

    Just one word for these guys: Ergonomics

  8. My concerns by Penguin+Programmer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This looks like a very, very cool idea. However, I have a major concern that would need to be satisfied before I would buy one: Drivers.

    I'm a dedicated Linux user and I think that the complexity of the drivers required for a keyboard like this might mean that a Linux driver doesn't appear right away (I mean, what are the chances of them releasing one, and we all know how long it takes for community-started open-source drivers to become stable, although they're quicker now than ever). Also, that driver had better not put any load on my CPU or memory. I have better things to do with those.

    That said, when an open-source driver for it does emerge, you know it'll do all sorts of cool stuff. For those of us who don't need to look at the keys anyway, it could be programmed to show movies while I'm typing instead.

  9. Won't someone please think of the children? by Webmonger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's got to be the widest 'standard' keyboard I've ever seen in my life! Where will our obsession with function keys end? First the PC/XT layout put them on the left-hand side, then the AT layout put them along the top.

    This keyboard combines the two, so now we've got function keys across the top and (different ones) down the left, plus a numeric keypad that is completely redundant with other number and arrow keys.

    Where will it end? Will we someday be pair programming with both programmers working the keyboard and telling each other which keys to hit? Will fights break out over who gets to press 'Y' and 'B'?

    I'm sure there are children whose arms won't reach both ends of this thing! Won't someone please think of the children?

  10. Useless by Thaelon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How completely useless for us touch typists.

    Also, if you need to look down to see what key does what in an FPS game (Quake (III?) is depicted) you're already dead.

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    1. Re:Useless by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sure. I can touchtype, and I've been able to do that for the last 13 years at least. But it'd still be VERY handy.

      When I'm using a new program, I'd love for my keyboard to show me what keys do what. Hold down shift and a new set of functions pop up on the keyboard. Other modifiers and you get more.

      Touch typing is useless when you don't know that pressing Ctrl+Shift+Space will do what you're trying to find in Tools->More->Neat->Macro->Experimental->Do not touch.

      Or are you just somehow magically able to know just what each and every key combination does in a program you've never used before?

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  11. e-Ink by cryptochrome · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think e-ink would be a cheaper, less power-hungry option for the keys. Also, making the keys contoured would be a good idea.

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  12. Good idea, really? by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Sweet concept.

    Not terribly practical, though, even if they put it into production.

    How many times did you look at your keyboard while you typed your post, really? In the middle of an intense FPS shootout, do you really need to know which key you configured to switch from the rocket launcher to grenades? Do you really have to check the keyboard shortcut for "Copy" in your text editor of choice?

    No, me neither.

    This is a fun idea, sure, and might have some genuine use in a few niches, but I doubt it's going anywhere as a mainstream idea.

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    1. Re:Good idea, really? by conigs · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I beg to differ that this is not practical. This would be especially useful to video editors or anyone in media that uses a shit-ton of keyboard hotkeys/shortcuts. Take video for example... Avid and FCP keyboards are all over the place. Imagine having a kayboard like this which avid or fcp could send the user's keyboard layout to, and presto! Instant, accurate representation of all the keyboard short-cuts. This is far better than buying a pre-manufactured keyboard that has the shortcuts printed on the keys... especially if you change the layout (as many do on avid and fcp and many other programs).

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    2. Re:Good idea, really? by Ced_Ex · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What about multilanguage keyboards?

      Not everyone uses the Roman Alphanumerics system. Arabic and Asian languages come to mind.

      Plus, it would be cool to see what keys are mapped in games like the old school MechWarrior where you had to use pretty much every key.

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    3. Re:Good idea, really? by Keith+Russell · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Do you really have to check the keyboard shortcut for "Copy" in your text editor of choice?

      Ask Logitech and Microsoft. They seem to think that the F-keys are a playground. Thus, odd-shaped F-keys, tiny F-keys, and the ever-dreaded F-Lock, which leaves unsuspecting users wondering why F7 didn't send "Ready!" over the team channel.

      They think users are so stupid and/or lazy, that they need a button on the keyboard to launch Excel, regardless of the number of start menu/quick launch/desktop shortcuts Office places on install. Meanwhile, those of us with 1/16 of a clue are left double-checking the F-Lock LED all the time, because we'd rather get into the BIOS setup than try to launch Outlook Express before the bloody boot loader is read off the hard drive!

      Can you tell this is a pet peeve? My pre-F-Lock Logitech keyboard is becoming more precious by the minute. I'll be damned if I let these marketing-addled fools turn my Step Into Function debugger key into a PowerPoint launcher.

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    4. Re:Good idea, really? by Petrushka · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What about multilanguage keyboards?

      Not everyone uses the Roman Alphanumerics system. Arabic and Asian languages come to mind.

      I totally agree. I work with languages in multiple alphabets and a thing like this would be a wonderful tool. Have you ever tried to find a keyboard appropriately marked for polytonic Greek? Well, I'm pretty sure they don't exist ... anyway, I just drooled and drooled over the pictures. Think of scholars trying to type out cuneiform or Linear B, or pretty much any non-European language, and it's not hard to think of applications. I'd love for a keyboard like this to exist and be practical!

    5. Re:Good idea, really? by Excelsior · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is a fun idea, sure, and might have some genuine use in a few niches, but I doubt it's going anywhere as a mainstream idea.

      Nothing like thinking completely within the box. Free your mind, my friend.

      How about an application that changes your keyboard functions as you proceed through steps? For instance, using an IDE, different key functions would show when I'm editing or debugging.

      What if you had toggle keys that, when pressed, the keyboard would show you a visual indication of a completely different set of key-functions? So your keyboard is in its normal state most of the time, but gives you alternate setups as you request them.

      What if in games, when you get shot, your keyboard pulses red. When you swim, your keyboard looks like water, with bubbles floating past. Keys show pictures of the weapons they would switch you to, and how much ammo they hold. Keys show the spells they would cast.

      What if applications and desktops could now eliminate widgets because a key can be set to represent them as needed? No more row of buttons at the top of every web browser, word processor, and email client. Perhaps they could add a row of keys along the top of the keyboard to replace the window taskbar. These buttons would show your apps, and you could press them to minimize windows, restore them, or bring them to the front.

      Or, we could just keep thinking in the box, poo-pooing ideas, and leave the innovation to others.

  13. Re:a couple of questions before buying by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You even rip off the MS menu keys on your work PC?

    Damn right I do!

    That gap between Alt and Ctrl was left there for a reason. I HATE it when my pinky is a little to the left or right of where it should be, and the result is that Windows steals away focus from whatever window I'm using and gives it to the Start menu.

  14. Re:a couple of questions before buying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This infringes on my pending patent of using light in the form of various colors and shapes to identify differing information! I see a world where people use light to represent letters, numbers, and even images. Just in case this patent doesn't succeed, I better submit a secondary one that adds, on the internet.

  15. OLED prices by bperkins · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everyone thinks that this would be expensice. but does anyone out here actually know what OLED prices are for something like this?

    If it's feasible to integrate the OLED and the display driver using all organic semiconductors, maybe this isn't as expensive an idea as people think. The first screens don't necessarily have to have super fast refresh rates.

    After all, most of the tiny screens are identical, and my best guess is that OLED production costs go as the area of the screen, which isn't really that large in this case. If one manages to combine the push signal, display signal and the OLED power in two wires, the wiring wouldn't be much more complex than a standard keyboard.

  16. This would be great for... by nicholaides · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This would be great for Reason, or Fruity Loops, or Hydrogen, or whatever music program you use. The keys could be colored like a piano keyboard. That would alleviate the need for a bulky MIDI keyboard.

    I've had this idea before (key's w/ LCD screens) but I never thought it practical enough to work. Now that they've got a Patent pending, I'm kicking myself.

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  17. Re:How about half the world, then? by nooj · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, your presumption is wrong. Almost everyone glances down at their keyboard to get their bearings dozens of times per hour. Yes, sometimes even when they hit something so common as ^V. This is why keyboards are printed with large capital letters in very clear type.

    Why don't you try putting little stickers over the letters on your keyboard some time and see just how often you use them as a crutch? You don't even have to cover all the letters; just do ten or fifteen--say, the entire bottom row. You will be surprised at how much you rely on them.