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Ambiguity Drives Google's Valuation
BreadMan writes "The Economist has an article about how Google uses its amorphous positioning to gain investor interest. At the current valuation (the P/E is north of 110) this is a winning formula, but the article questions the long-term soundness. The reporter was chagrined that the last press tour focused more on the CFO (Chief Food Officer) and the monthly pasta consumption (500 lbs) than products or financial performance of the company."
IT IS hard to know whether to be impressed, suspicious or amused.
Combine such evidence of frenzied activity with mysterious secretiveness, and the imagination is liberated. A Google web browser? A Google operating system? All the world's information? World domination? Buy, clearly.
What is so hard to understand? Google, in a relatively short time, has been able to come to market with some amazing pieces of software that are stable, useful, and free even in their "Beta" stages.
I can't say that for plenty of other companies out there with huge market value... Some of those companies released "final" products that were little more than "Alpha" quality software that we tested for them on our own dimes for 15+ years.
Google, secretive or not, is producing good software at an alarming rate (yes, alarming is the word to use here) and at this time should be invested in. While I don't write for the Economist, it's pretty obvious to me that it's not Google's "ambiguity" driving its value, it's Google's proven track record which is getting people interested.
What's a couple thousand dollar gamble for most people that might have missed Yahoo's rise to fame and fortune? Knowing what Yahoo was/is doing and how that compares to what Google is doing now shows that this might be a better bet and people are willing to sink that cash into it.
wish we had a cfo. we don even have a vending machine!
500lbs is an awful lot of pasta
Just because your paranoid doesn't really mean they aren't out to get you
Perhaps reporters are looking at things the wrong way. The reason for Google's success and break neck product generation pace is the people that work for them. Maybe you should be more interested in their habits if you want to know where Google is going. More to the topic of valuation though, Google is highly valued because their growth is tremendous, their has been almost no growth deceleration, and they generate huge amounts of cash. I believe they are on course to generation $1.8B in cash this year, something very, very few companies can say. Is it worth what the stock is trading for? Clearly, no one knows, but many think it is. Google's growth will start to level at some point, but the thing is that when you're growing this fast, slowing growth down only a little later (or earlier) is going to make a big difference in absolute sales or profit numbers. So, timing of the leveling off is crucial, but almost impossible to predict.
"Brand equity" represents the entire public perception of the branded product (in this case "Google" / Google's securitized equity). People think "Google" means "the next big thing" and "smart Internet entrepreneurs". So pasta consumption stories build brand equity. Which is where high PE ratios come from. Very little else can justify such high multiples, certainly not the value of forseeable future profits on such a high base stock price.
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Ok for their P/E to be 1.0 their stock price would have to NEVER change from where it is now, and they would have to start making Microsoft dollars
The current FORWARD P/E on Google is still 45. Personally I think earnings will be lower this quarter because of so many aquisitions, and multimillion dollar $0 options the senior execs have taken.
Try one-time innovation.
Their innovation was a search engine that didn't have NASCAR ads all over it and worked on dial up lines. That's all. They did that in like 1998.
They've come up with nothing profitable since.
Nothing.
(They have come up with innovative stuff, but it's not profitable)
Google is a big sham. Their stock isn't even first class stock. It's pretend stock. The people who have bought it don't have the voting rights as the insiders. They can't even vote those clowns out of power.
Google is the last dot com scam.
Short 'em now.
Is anyone else as sick of hearing about this as I am? I feel like thats all they ever mention. Granted, its a cool perk, but I'm not going to work for $50k less just to get some free food. As a programmer who sits at a desk all day, free food = free diabetes at age 40.
Also the stock options arn't a great motivator anymore since the stock is basically priced for where Google will be in 3-5 years. To see the same return on your Google stock issued now compared to the stock of last year, Google would have to become the size of Microsoft in market cap.
The other front-page story on Netscape highlights the promises and risks of high-flying internet companies. In this post I argue that Netscape fell because it was so easy to switch browsers, especially when getting a new computer.
I wonder if Google will be able to make itself sticky enough to survive any threats? Currently, Google doesn't really offer any intercompatibility advantages in the sense that a co-worker's use of Google does not influence my use of Google. And if I replace my PC, Google doesn't offer anything that encourages me to use Google on the new machine. (GMail is somewhat sticky, but is too independent of Google's core search to force people to stay with Google search)
In contrast, I can see how MS could offer more integrative search experience where people would use MS search tools because friends and coworkers use MS search tools. If my coworker's PC is indexed by MS, my old PC was indexed by MS, and my new PC comes with built-in local/global search tools, then I'd bet a large fraction of people will switch to MS search tool regardless of Google's marketshare. Even Google's ad-words placements on 3rd party sites could be threatened if nex-gen MS server includes integrated ad serving tools.
I hope that Google finds a way to encourage people to stay with Google even as they change PCs or interconnect with co-workers and friends. The current valuation of Google requires both high growth and low risk.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
Let me offer a bit of instruction to fellow geeks.
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One way to value a stock is to compute its future earnings, discount them and figure out its value today.
So for example, if Company X pays out $10/year, every year, how much would you pay to buy Company X today? To compute this, you do the following calculation: $10 + $10/(1+intrate) + $10/(1+intrate)^2 + $10/(1+intrate)^3 +
Intrate is the prevailing interest rate. Clearly, the company has to cough up $10 for the first year. For the second year, (if int rates are 5%), the company only has to cough up $9.52.
In this example, the value of Company X is about $210 today.
Clearly, a succesful company will be able to pay out ever growing dividends. The confidence in growth is computed down to the P/E number, price/earnings.
In GOOG's case, the P/E number is now 120!. This is an absurd number.
Comparable tech companies sport the following P/Es:
Ebay: 58
Yhoo: 58
Msft: 25
Goog: 120 (wtf?)
GOOG is probably overvalued. By a lot.
Google success has nothing to do with Q4 2005's financal statement (it has enough short-term cash), and everything to do with keeping the talented engineers it hired and keeping them motivated to outperform MSFT in the long term.
For this goal, the Chief Food Officer is infinitely more imoprtant than the Chief Financial Officer.
I think the article is spot on, and the reporter is not confused about anything at all - the reporter is rightly asking what the valuation of the stock is really based on - reporter notes vague handwaving, a non-committal (beta) software stream, much, much rumours, and the fact that people at google like to eat. The reporter asks - in not so many words - how and when google will start delivering on that stock price - i.e. where google's *80 billion* valuation is hidden, and how, if at any time at all, this will be capitalised.
Google's success is not at doubt, rather, the reporter draws some subtle parallels to the dotcombusts of yesteryear, and hints at potential repetition and subsequent dissapointment of those times.
People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.
Yes, profit. If you recall Google was completely privately held since 1998 til about their recent IPO. Why? Because that's when the owners decided the value was fully generated, and it can no longer grow, or (gasp) even fall. Time to dump and get cash while it's hot. For all the wonder that Google is - and many thanks to its precious inventors, you are forever in our hearts - it's core technology is severely limited, because it's based on a centralized system, and there is something better on the horizon. The real answer is distributed computing, where you can locally do the indexing and only send up the index, but this means giving up control, thus giving up sharevalue. I wonder how long will it be possible for this next wonder-genie be kept tight in a bottle. It could be quite sometime til the cork is pulled - a few thousand years? - but sooner or later it happens.