SCO Says Email Is Inaccurate
daria42 writes "The SCO Group has slammed as 'inaccurate' suggestions that an e-mail from one of its own engineers showed Linux did not contain copyright Unix code, and even forwarded its own historical memo to journalists in an attempt to discredit the e-mail published on Groklaw." From the article: "This memo shows that Mr. Davidson's e-mail is referring to an investigation limited to literal copying, which is not the standard for copyright violations, and which can be avoided by deliberate obfuscation, as the memo itself points out..." We reported on the email yesterday.
No Copyright violations for you to see here. Please move along.
Everything out of SCO has been inaccurate up to this point...
The NSA: The only part of the US government that actually listens.
how the fcsk can it be than a 1999 investigation's initial findings, the Swartz investigation, show up "possible problems" and then in 2002, with Reg and Co examining the output of the 1999 investigation in 2002 and deeming that all the "problems" found in 1999 were actually NOT problems...such as legal use of BSD code, etc...
but the initial 1999 look trumps the more thorough 200*BANG*
my mind just exploded.
i hate this case.
guns kill people like spoons make Rosie O'Donnell fat.
Here is an example of code that was STOLEN directly from the Unix code...
int var1;
And here's one they blatantly obfuscated:
Original:
int var1;
var1 = 0;
Obfuscated:
int var_1 = 0;
HOW DARE THEY!
It depends on what your definition of "is" is.
Facebook is the new AOL
However, SCO said in a statement this afternoon, "it would simply be inaccurate - and misleading -- to use Mr Davidson's e-mail to suggest that SCO's internal investigation revealed no problems."
Problem number 1: Linux doesn't contain any of SCO's intellectual property.
The NSA: The only part of the US government that actually listens.
Yes, SCO has found cases where their copyrighted code was stolen and then cleverly obfuscated by completely changing the variable names, comments, data structures and algorithms! But clearly it must have been stolen since it performs a similar function.
<blockquote>"We're finding...cases where there is line-by-line code in the Linux kernel that is matching up to our UnixWare code."</blockquote>
From a good source I know Linux does indeed contain lines that are exactly the same as in UnixWare Code.
e.g.:
for (int i = 0; i < MAX_INT; i++)
while (!done)
...
There are many more to find. SCO has even reason to believe many more companies has copied these exact same code fragments!
Haven't I seen this before?
"Your honor, I object!"
"And why is that, Mr. Reede?"
"Because it's devastating to my case!"
"Overruled."
"Good call!"
Actually it reminds me more of the small, obnoxious kid at the sandbox, which sticks his fingers into his ears and yells I CAN'T HEAR YOU! I CAN'T HEAR YOU! on the top of his lungs.
What a sorry bunch of wankers...
ich bin der musikant
mit taschenrechner in der hand
kraftwerk
Your "denial in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contratry" skills are needed in Utah!
I find it more interesting that you still find it interesting after all the insightful discussion you generated with basically the same comment in the last SCO discussion.
Very unlikely that this kind code is on Linux (kernel), because that is not C.
(It looks like C++ code. )
Darl(21:50): It's reasonable, except when the comment codes are the same, the humor lines in the comment code are the same, and the typos in the comment code are the same, then you start getting beyond...
What the? Is that a Bible Verse? John (3:16), Darl (21:50).
nothing wrong with that syntax in any C-based language (including C) other than the fact that there's no end to the statement.Now that represents the SCO lawsuit better.
feels like a childish game
SCO: "NO! It's MY fingerpainting, and he took it from me! Mine, mine, mine, mine!!!"
Parent: "Honey, it's not your fingerpainting, I saw him make it the other day. It doesn't even look like yours."
SCO: (hands over ears) "La La LA LA LA, I can't hear you, La La LA LA LA!!!!"
"/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit is a gimp plugin and must be run by the gimp in order to be used."
You wouldn't believe how many times they copied lines. They even used similar variables and function names, containing words like SCSI, interrupt, and other such terms.
Now, if we do a statistical analysis, given 26 lower case characters, 26 upper case characters, 10 numbers, and the '_', along with 9 letters in 'interrupt', we come to the conclusion that the odds of repeating that exact term just *once* (let alone the many times like Linux does) are about 16,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1. Linux has, quite obviously, been seriously ripping off UnixWare.
"/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit is a gimp plugin and must be run by the gimp in order to be used."
If you lie to the public and you know its a lie, then that is fraud. What if you lie to the public and you can tell that it is a lie because you're fucking nuts? I smell an insanity defense in the works for Darl... at least, that is the only rational explanation I can come up with to explain his public statements!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Damn that "Linus" and his clever hippie-communist logic!
"/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit is a gimp plugin and must be run by the gimp in order to be used."
Tom Cruise? Are you as in desperate need of psychiatric help as him?
Jon Stewart would be Groklaw.
And Darl McBride would be played by Hayden Christiansen just so they could chop off his arms and legs at the end.
Cheers.
This is my sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Actually, my mother used to do that, but not in a sandbox, fortunately.
NEWSFLASH: SCO today denied reports that they think the world is flat. In a statement issued by CEO Daryl Whats-his-face, the company suggested that they had only meant to say that there were certain parts of it that appeared to be flat. "This is fully within the parameters of linguistic theory," said Daryl. "We never meant to imply that it's ALL flat." Daryl refused to elaborate on which areas of the world he thought "looked" flat.
"Is this Winkhorst a nova criminal?" "No just a technical sergeant wanted for interrogation."
"Go forwards, not backwards. Upwards, not forwards. And always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!"
Is that really off-topic?
That comment has some relevance to the topic in hand, so by applying case law and using the BETAMAX case, that comment is not in fact off-topic because it has some relevance to the story discussed even if portion of it is not directly on-topic.
You can't handle the truth.
Darl's response to this one is a story about a pregnant cow. It makes no sense, but it is Darl's answer. I'll paraphrase:
If A sells B a pregnant cow, and neither is aware of the pregnancy, who owns the calf?
Chewbacca.
Let the Wookie win.
If brevity is the soul of wit, then how does one explain Twitter?
Sue SCO for emotional distress due to constantly laughing his ass off at them.
He'd have a better chance at winning that too than SCO ever will with their case.
You are who you are, let no one tell you different. But, never close your mind to a new point of view.
"Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber" -- Plato
Normally I like to see the underdog put up a spirited fight. Normally I like to see Davids stand up to Goliaths.
In this case, I feel almost weasley, but at the same time I know I shouldn't...
I *WANT* to see the bug get crushed!
I *WANT* to see what happens when the biggest kid in class, trying to restrain himself from smashing the loudmouth punk, finally loses it and gets medieval.
I *WANT* to see the SEC investigate the crooks for this pump-and-dump sham.
Finally, I *SOOOOO WANT* to see Darl one day have to take a job as a janitor at OSDL.
Am I wrong for this?
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain"
Eternity: will that be smoking, or non-smoking? I Corinthians 6:9-10
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!
- chrish
SCO accuses IBM lawyers of corrupting Judge: IBM: This isn't the code you're looking for. Judge: This isn't the code I'm looking for... IBM: We can go about our business. Judge: You can go about your business... IBM: McBride's got the body of a baltic hooker in his trunk...
Those who believe the Internet is private,
find their privates are on the Internet.
No, thats where Linux isn't ready for the desktop came from.
I get nothing to duck from!
insanity... only rational explanation
Ironically insanity is always a rational explanation
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- - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.