Hot Coffee Content Within GTA Confirmed

Gamespot has confirmed, via a long and involved process, that the PS2 version of GTA: San Andreas contains the 'Hot Coffee' content. This essentially means that Rockstar was untruthful when it previously stated the content was added by a modder, but "Given that the minigame is about as raunchy as an episode of Sex and the City, cannot be accessed without entering a long string of cheat codes, and takes several hours of effort to access, charges that San Andreas is 'pornographic' may seem extreme to some."

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Re:for the love of god - who CARES?!?!

[UberFlop]

The "big deal" is that San Andreas was given a M- Mature rating for all the "mature" content in the game, but it managed to just squeak by with that. Now that there's this in the game, the game has pushed well beyond into an AO - Adults Only game, and I don't believe there's been an AO game to date since the ESRB formed.

It's also a "big deal" because Rockstar lied about the content being in the game at all, so this it's possible this could lead to criminal charges brought forth against the company and it's execs.

It's a "big deal" for the same reason the Clinton scandal was a big deal. Not that Clinton had "sexual relations," but that he lied about it.

Rockstar should release it

[QuantumG]

After all this great press coverage, Rockstar should box up the Hot Coffee mod, slap an AO rating on it, and put it on store shelves. Maybe even make the minigame a little more playable. That'll show them "think of the children" wankers how it is. Spread the message: We don't expect your kids to play it, we don't want your kids to play it, the game is for adults.

Re:As I said in the last article...

[interiot]

I think everybody (at least on Slashdot) has read about this long enough to have a decent grasp of the problem. I don't see why people have to keep using hyperbole to argue about the basic technical issues. The possibilities are:

1. the user only had to type in a cheatcode
2. like the Excel easter-egg, the user has to do an obscure series of steps to unlock the mini-game, and the first person to discover the obscure steps probably had to go to a significant amount of effort to discover them (or have inside knowledge)
3. the game or savefiles require an outside tool to change a few binary bytes. The tool required some code development by the person who found the minigame, but relatively few bytes are changed in the actual game itself
4. the modder had to introduce new textures in the game (eg. to show nudity or whatnot), textures which they had to independently develop using an external graphics tool
5. the modder had to introduce new textures, 3d shapes, audio, and new behaviors into the game (eg. closer in the direction of a "full conversion" mod, but only for a sub-game)
6. the modder did a total conversion of GBA to make the game-play completely different

Now, it seems like it should be clear that what happened here was item #3.

I don't know why people keep using hyperbole for the sake of arguing...

You fool! of course the main company shouldn't be liable! people say it was just a cheatcode, but it was waaaay more than that

or, on the other side

you fool! of course the company should be liable! people say the hacker wrote a minigame, but in reality, they barely did anything!

I mean, the technical side of things seem pretty clear. People should stop being so political about the technical side of things. We can speculate about the main company's strategy, but throwing out hyperbole about the technical side of things is just silly at this point.

Re:for the love of god - who CARES?!?!

[EnronHaliburton2004]

but the second sex comes in to the picture - it's horrible and it kills little baby angels!

Holy shit, do you live in a cave or something? The anger didn't start with the HotCoffee stuff. The game has pissed off alot of people ever since it came out.

How could you miss all the angry parents and politicians who have complained about every single GTA release for months on end?

Recall entire production run over easter egg

[AHumbleOpinion]

For one, it's not in the game. For two, modding the game to enable this feature is unlawful.

Wrong on both counts. It sounds like an Easter Egg not a mod: "cannot be accessed without entering a long string of cheat codes, and takes several hours of effort to access".

That is a big deal and quite idiotic of them. All copies of the game could be pulled from retail stores and a new manufacturing run could be required. That is a major financial mistake, someone should be fired, maybe even sued, by the publisher not some crazy parent.

Re:Recall entire production run over easter egg

[milkman_matt]

See, the thing is: the rating is supposed to represent what a person would experience playing the game. The sex scenes are NOT what a person would experience playing the game, unless you use the hot coffee mod to do it on purpose, after finding out about it.

You're partially right, -these- sex scenes are not what a person would experience playing the game, but there are a couple ..'sexUAL" scenes, and foro that they hav in the Mature label "Strong Sexual Content" ... whether it needs to be unlocked or not, you're warned that there is "Strong Sexual Content" in the game. So uhhh, all complaints about 'sex' in GTA, should be completely ignored, If you (or your child) bought the game, you were warned DIRECTLY ON THE BOX, that there was "Strong Sexual Content" so uhh... As they said earlier in this thread "What's the big deal?"

(This wasn't bashing you, I agree wth you.)

SimCopter...

[Wilson_6500]

I know that it wasn't quite as explicit, but does anyone remember that one version of SimCopter that had the little "boxer-clad men run around kissing" feature? Why didn't we hear such an uproar about that?

Re:Damn

[ElleyKitten]

>>Next, you have to make the argument that you are safe at home no matter what illicit content can be found on a Rockstar disk, so long at is accessible only through a third-party mod.

If you don't want to play the Hot Coffee mod, it's not going to download itself and surprise you the next time you go play GTA. If you're worried about kids getting it, well, if you can't figure out how to prevent them from getting the mod then they've probably seen WAY to much porn for it to matter then.