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Researchers Create 3-Dimensional Chips

Spy der Mann writes "Professor James Lu and other researchers of the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, managed to create three-dimensional chips (coral cache) to optimize the design of future processors and prevent overheating. "Make the interconnect wire shorter, and you cut the delay time," says Lu. "A simple way to make them shorter is to stack the transistors.""

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  1. Diamond heat sinks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember there were tests using diamond deposited on chips as a strong heat conductor. The whole point was to help make multilayered chips possible. Haven't read anything lately but it sounded promising.

  2. Been done before, 23 years ago by chiph · · Score: 3, Interesting
    IBM used a multi layer ceramic module with thermal conduction system on the water-cooled System 3090 mainframe, and still uses the technology today in their zSeries 990, known as the "T-Rex".

    The center layers of the substrate include 16 wiring planes arranged in x-y pairs to maximize wiring efficiency. Metallized, 0.12-mm-diameter vias on 0.5-mm centers are used for x-plane-to-y-plane connections. Voltage reference planes are appropriately interspersed for signal wiring impedance control.

    See: Thermal Conduction Module: A High-Performance Multilayer Ceramic Package

    Chip H.
  3. Re:shorter wires = less resistance by ToasterofDOOM · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have to correct you. Since I = V/R where I is the current in amperes, V is the voltage, and R is the resistance in ohms, less resistance means more current. Current is what creates heat and gets work done. Resistance isn't friction, it's simply the volume of electron flow possible through any given medium. Your observation that there would be more resistance was correct, however it would result in more heat. Take basic high school physics before youn try to work that out again. I would know - we did a demonstration in which two different types of hot dogs were used as resistors. Generic brand hot dogs had much more resistance and didnt do much. Ballpark hot dogs OTOH had less and started to smoke within minutes. Also, if you look on the inside of you computer all those little resistors have thousands to millions or more ohms or resistance.

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  4. Re:shorter wires = less resistance by XchristX · · Score: 2, Interesting

    None of this is relevant in the long run. Eventually, chip manufacturers will hit the blank wall of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. As you try to cram more transistors into smaller spaces (even in 3-D), you localize the electron wavefunctions (not to mention that cuttoff is achieved only if the electrons are in conduction bands, which will cease to exist if the transistors are too small). This means that they delocalise in Momentum space, and their Shannon entropy goes up, causing them to heat up drastically and eventually melt. Solid State Technology has taken us far enough, trying to stack chips will only prolong the inevitable. Researchers should focus on a fundamentally new method of computation, like using entangled Greenberger-Horne-Zeilenger states or Bell states for computational purposes.

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  5. Way too late, but... by anzha · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Seymour Cray with the Cray 3 had his processor bricks made of Gallium arsenide. The wikipedia article has flaws (I'll try to fix later) but it has the point that he went down the route of the 3d chip and circuitry much earlier than this /. story.

    A brilliant man, Seymour...

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  6. Preposterous Scale Integration ... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2, Interesting

    PSI is almost upon us.

    FYI: PSI is a tale I spun in the '70s or so, when Large Scale Integration (LSI - eventually with a company named after it) and Very Large Scale Integration (VSLI) were industry buzzwords for ICs with a higher level of integration than a single-digit count of gates or flops to be externally interconnected.

    PSI would involve:
    - constructing a 3-D "chip"
    - using ion beam epitaxy and doping to build it up in layers
    - testing as you go using electron beams for power and signal injection and higher-voltage electron beams for "positive" voltage injection and as test prods (using secondary emission to pull more electrons than they insert and/or to read the voltage on the chip's internal nodes)
    - turning up the beam current to vaporize (and later rebuild correctly) any defective component so the whole thing ends up flawless despite its large gate count. (100% yield!)
    - using diamond for the semiconductor (mainly for its stability and heat conduction properties)
    - running it in an inert atmosphere (so it can get up to red-hot without burning up or converting into graphite)
    - building it as an approximate cube - up to, say, 6 feet on a side
    - powering and cooling it on two opposing faces
    - with water-cooled silver bus-bars the size of the faces
    - connecting it by covering the other four faces with optic fibers for I/O (to interconnect with integrated light-emitting and sensing devices).

    Of course the point of the yarn, in addition to potentially being possible, is the appearance of the resulting device:

    An enormous supercomputer in the form of a 6-foot cube of diamond, glowing slightly red from operating heat, supported by water-cooled silver bus bars in an inert atmosphere within a glass bottle (ala a vacuum tube), with millions of optic fibers to provide it with sufficient I/O.

    Just the sort of thing you'd find as a component in, say, one of the later Skylark spacecraft of E. E. (Doc) Smith's Golden-age SF stories.

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  7. Re:See-through Super-Chips! by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In the short term, expect to see a lot of failed wafers. The alignment problems between different fabricated wafers are going to make the interconnectors mismatch and fail under stress, or as manufactured junctions "creep", especially under thermal load. Also expect to see some nasty behavior with capacitive or inductive coupling between transistors which are vertically on top of each other, instead of merely adjacent. Groundplane, groundbounce, and other related issues are about to take a quantum leap in complexity with this approach.