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Star Trek's Scotty Dies at 85

darkworm writes "James Doohan, better known to Trekkies everywhere as Scotty, has died at the age of 85. James was suffering from both Parkinsons and Alzheimer's and died earlier today at his home"

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  1. Mirror + better obituary by winkydink · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's a mirror here and a better obit from CNN here.

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    "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

    1. Re:Mirror + better obituary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      BBC obituary here.

    2. Re:Mirror + better obituary by darkonc · · Score: 4, Informative

      Might as well throw in The CBC Obit, as well (given that he was born in Canada).

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      Sometimes boldness is in fashion. Sometimes only the brave will be bold.
  2. Yes, I am going to hell for this... by toupsie · · Score: 5, Funny

    He's dead, Jim! -- Bones

    --
    Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
    1. Re:Yes, I am going to hell for this... by thephotoman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So is Bones.

      And it looks like the guy in the red shirt does always die, even if it's Scotty.

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      Haec merda tauri est. Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
    2. Re:Yes, I am going to hell for this... by macklin01 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Quick! You get his tricorder; I'll get his wallet. :-)

      In all seriousness, godspeed, Scotty! -- Paul

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      OpenSource.MathCancer.org: open source comp bio
    3. Re:Yes, I am going to hell for this... by RexDart · · Score: 4, Funny

      He could nae change the laws of physics, Captain.

      --
      "Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the beast..."
      "She's in Congress?" - Firefly, "Objects in Space
    4. Re:Yes, I am going to hell for this... by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 4, Interesting
      And it looks like the guy in the red shirt does always die.

      What would be ironic is if the actors who played the "red shirts" on the old series actually outlived all the principle actors. I wonder if any of the "expendable ensigns" have passed on?

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      Modern copyright is theft of culture from everyone and it retards the progress of the useful arts and sciences.
  3. Can't by ericdano · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "She can't take anymore of this!"

    Rest In Peace Scotty. You will always be remembered.

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    It's either on the beat or off the beat, it's that easy.
    I moderate therefore I rule!
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  4. Somebody finally beamed Scotty up... by pointbeing · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Travel well, James.

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    we see things not as as they are, but as we are.
    -- anais nin
  5. Cue the jokes... by daveschroeder · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Beam me up, Scotty!"

    "He's dead, Jim."

    Ok, now that that's out of the way, I'm sure the rest of the slashdot article comments will be thoughtful, insightful commentary on Doohan's passing.

    Such as:

    He lost a finger during the D-Day invasion as a captain in the Royal Canadian Artillery.

    He was also a linguist, and devised the Vulcan and Klingon lanuages for the original Star Trek motion picture.

    He had his youngest daughter in 2000, when he was 80 (!), with his wife Wende, whom he'd been married to since 1975. Way to go, James.

    More

    1. Re:Cue the jokes... by ShelbyCobra · · Score: 5, Funny

      He was also a linguist...

      I see, but was he a cunning one?

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      -ShelbyCobra

      Living life in the right side of the s-plane

    2. Re:Cue the jokes... by dhakbar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And how do you know that the child won't receive appropriate care?

    3. Re:Cue the jokes... by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm not sure if he was a linguist - he was good at accents, though. But Marc Okrand created the languages, not Doohan.

      Also, the CNN Obit says he was married in 1974, not 1975.

    4. Re:Cue the jokes... by Bamafan77 · · Score: 5, Funny
      His (second) wife was 43 when his youngest daughter was born in 2000. That means that she was born in 1957, and got married in 1975.

      At age 18.

      Doohan was 55 at the time.

      Until now, I was a big fan of the character Scotty. Now I'm a fan of Doohan, the man! Everybody thought Shatner was the player, but who knew that Scotty was the true pimp of TOS. :)

  6. To quote STII, The Wrath of Kahn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Is the word given, sir?"

    "Aye, laddie-- warp speed."

    RIP, Scotty.

  7. Favorite Quote by lecithin · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Just before they went into warp, I beamed the whole kit and kaboodle into their engine room, where they'll be no tribble at all."

    --
    It could be worse, it could be Monday.
    1. Re:Favorite Quote by fishdan · · Score: 4, Funny

      On TNG to Jordi: "How are you going to get a reputation as a miracle worker if you tell the Captain the actual amount of time it will take?!?!"

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      Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm
  8. A sad day by Nos. · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Scotty had to be one of the most beloved Star Trek characters of all time and Mr. Doohan really made the character. I only hope that someone somewhere will play Amazing Grace on the pipes for him as he did for Spock at the end of Star Trek II.

  9. sad... by idiotdevel · · Score: 5, Funny

    may the force be with you!

    wait...

    1. Re:sad... by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think every Trekkie reading that just had a heart attack. So, ummm...good work!

    2. Re:sad... by idiotdevel · · Score: 5, Funny

      may the force be with them as well

    3. Re:sad... by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 3, Funny
      may the force be with you!
      And I felt a great disturbance in the force, like a thousand voices saying "NOOOO!!!" in unison...
  10. RIP by IcyNeko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... Of all the characters in Star Trek.... He.. was the most... human.

  11. Nothing for me to see here. by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Nothing for me to see here. Please beam me up.

    (Thanks for teaching me how to keep my reputation as a miracle worker. I'll be enjoyin' a wee dram in your honor tonight, James.)

  12. Remembering James Doohan by buckhead_buddy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just as Agnes Moorehead didn't want to be remembered only as "the witch", I think it's kind of insulting to James Doohan just to encapsulate remberences of him solely as his most well-known character. Can anyone out there comment on his other roles? (e.g. Star Commander of Jason?) his military service? or his long, long life?

    We all know he had a fun, fake Scottish accent and was unparalleled in delivering technobabble in just the right doses for a good episode of Trek, but I'd love to hear the stories of this man that aren't penned by Rodenberry or copyrighted by Viacom.

    Anyone have any?

    1. Re:Remembering James Doohan by LurkerXXX · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is one of the best writeups I've seen on him.

    2. Re:Remembering James Doohan by Ubergrendle · · Score: 4, Interesting

      James Doohan was troubled by his typecasting in the years following ST:TOS cancellation, until his dentist told him: 'you're going to be scotty the rest of your life whether you like it or not'. After that Doohan says he just went with it and became a much happier person, and admitted that life had treated him very well.

      Another tidbit...as like most good soldiers (David Niven comes to mind) he underplayed his WWII experience very much, when talking about it in public usually talked about how scared he was etc. He was at the Juno Beach landings on D-Day and took 6 bullets (including the loss of one of his fingers).

      I never met him, but people I know who did claim he was probably the most charming, down-to-earth media personality they ever met. Old-school gentleman, with a great sense of humour and humilty. This can be contrasted slightly with Canada's OTHER contribution to Star Trek, William (Farking) Shanter...

      --
      John Maynard Keynes: "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?"
  13. Re:Beem him on up... by mesach · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wait, If Scotty is gone who is going to beam me up?

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    moo.
  14. Re:A good memorial would be... by fostware · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Space Shuttle is obviously waiting for his ashes... That would be fitting. (Depending on the families wishes of course)

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    "We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run over." - Aneurin Bevan
  15. Scotty's Rule of Thumb by stuffduff · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I remember Scotty explaining to LaForge one day that his secret was to always exaggerate the time it takes to do something by a factor of eight. Usually this made him look like a hero, but he always had that built in time for dealing with the unforeseen problem. It was one of the more important lessons I learned from Star Trek.

    But the real value that James Doohan brought to his role, and that I value from his life was his enthusiasm. The positiveness he brought to his role came from the heart. He embodied and lived the "Can Do" attitude. Hopefully it was every bit as infectious as the rest of Star Trek and we will all remember that we too 'can do!'

    --
    "Can there be a Klein bottle that is an efficient and effective beer pitcher?"
    1. Re:Scotty's Rule of Thumb by daeley · · Score: 4, Funny

      Spock: "Ahh, Mr. Scott, I understand you're having difficulty with the warp drive. How much time do you require for repair?"

      Scotty: "There's nothing wrong with the bloody thing!"

      Spock: "Mr. Scott, if we return to Spacedock, the assassins will surely find a way to dispose of their incriminating footwear, and we will never see the Captain, or Dr. McCoy, alive again."

      Scotty: "Could take weeks, sir."

      Spock: "Thank you, Mr. Scott."

      (From Star Trek VI)

      --
      I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
    2. Re:Scotty's Rule of Thumb by SamSeaborn · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I remember Scotty explaining to LaForge one day that his secret was to always exaggerate the time it takes to do something by a factor of eight. Usually this made him look like a hero, but he always had that built in time for dealing with the unforeseen problem.

      I always hated that scene. Scotty *was* a miracle worker -- he really DID accomplish engineering miracles when the ship was in mortal danger -- and always did it in less time than it would take any other engineer.

      In ST:III he made a joke that he exaggerates estimates to Kirk, "Certainly, sir. How else can I keep my reputation as a miracle worker?"

      But it was a *joke*! In that ST:TNG episode they had Scotty decalre that he regularly exaggerated and lied about estimates only to make himself look better. This forever tarnishing Scotty brilliance, and I hated (HATED!) that scene.

      Sigh ... I really, really hate that scene.

      Sam

  16. Re:Beem him on up... by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You will be missed Mr. Doohan.

    More so than any of the Trek characters, methinks. How many of us here were first inspired into tech geekdom by Chief Enginner Scott?

    --
    Real Daleks don't climb stairs - they level the building.
  17. he was a very compassionate person by tomlouie · · Score: 5, Informative

    I loved the scene in the documentary Trekkies where Doohan talks befriending a suicidal fan.

    I found this link which gave more info about that part of the documentary.

    http://www.treknation.com/interviews/roger_nygard. shtml

    Q: Trekkies like to hear anecdotes. Tell us of some funny incident during the production of the movie.

    A: Right in the middle of the most emotional moment of our interview with James Doohan the camera ran out of film, interrupting Mr. Doohan in the middle of his story about a suicide note he had received from a fan. He couldn't wait until the camera was reloaded because he was already late to be on stage. The convention security people said there would not be time for a second interview so it seemed like we would never find out what happened to the suicidal woman. We were determined to find out so we waited four hours until after Mr. Doohan spoke on stage and then signed several hundred autographs and then Denise asked him if he could kindly come back to finish his story. Despite being exhausted from the day's convention events, he graciously agreed, and he told us the rest of the story, which became the most touching moment in the film. I can't believe we almost didn't get that story.

    1. Re:he was a very compassionate person by KingSkippus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This wasn't just for the cameras. I was at a convention in Atlanta, Georgia back in my hard-core Trekkie days (I've mellowed out a bit...). Being a broke teenager, I could only afford a one-day pass, and they didn't schedule any autograph sessions for that day. During his Q&A session, I asked him if my buddy and I could have autographs since we wouldn't be able to see him during the other two days.

      He said of course we could, he didn't realize that they were selling one-day passes and thought everyone there would be there for two more days. Right there in the Q&A, he said that anyone who wouldn't have another chance to see him on one of the other two days could meet him in the hallway after the Q&A and get autographs.

      After the Q&A, he stayed late and a handful of people met him out in the hall while he signed autographs. I was very impressed that the whole room didn't go right then (kudos to the Trekkies!), but more than that, I was impressed that Jimmy Doohan went clearly above and beyond what he was obligated to do just for the sake of being a nice guy. Out in the hallway, he was extremely personable and it was obvious that he wasn't just going through the motions of getting a bunch of Trekkies (myself included) out of his hair, an impression I got from some of the other actors.

      Nowadays, I'm not so much a Star Trek fan, but one of my most prized possessions is still my autographed copy of Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise. Not because of the autograph, because I have lots of 'em from various people, but because of the memory of what a nice guy Jimmy Doohan was and how special it was that he took some time out of his schedule and his life just to be a nice guy to me, an anonymous guy he didn't know and would very likely never see again.

      And yes, of all of the Star Trek actors I've read about beyond their non-Trek lives, Jimmy Doohan is BY FAR the most interesting, courageous and noble one. Christ, the man was shot by Nazis six times with a machine gun in World War II while storming a beach! In my book, that makes him a bigger hero than even the fictional Captain Kirk.

  18. A fitting day for his passing by dankney · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's fitting that he passed away on the anniversary of the Apollo landings.

  19. Out of respect by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm observing a minute of scottish accent

  20. We can'ne change the laws of physics :( by Zerbey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A great actor who will be missed by all. So sad that such an extrodinary human suffered the indignity of dying through Alzheimers.

    I recommend all Slashdotters honour his memory by donating to the Alzheimer's Association so we can find a cure for this disease.

  21. There goes a good man by ESR · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had breakfast with Jimmy Doohan once. This was years before I was a famous geek, so I doubt he remembered it long. But I remember him -- a very warm, human, unassuming person. He had the quiet self-confidence of a man who's seen it all, done most of it, lived an upright life, and has nothing left to prove to anybody. The contrast with the brittle personalities and huge fragile egos of some other Trek stars I've met was very noticeable.

    I'll miss you, Jimmy.

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    >>esr>>
    1. Re:There goes a good man by brilinux · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Those are the kind of people, though, who I think do make the best actors - it is when you have seen it all and done a lot that you can better act in something which we may never see or experience - being an engineer on a star cruiser. But it is rare to find actors today *cough*Shatner*cough* who are upright and unassuming. Even though he has not been able to act in a while, he, and other actors like him, will be sorely missed.

  22. Re:Beem him on up... by Dun+Malg · · Score: 5, Informative
    You will be missed Mr. Doohan.

    Mostly by his 5 year old son I should think.

    Sarah Doohan is a girl.

    The mind boggles - how much of an asshole do you have to be to have children at that age?

    These things are not always planned. It's easy to call other people assholes when you can imagine whatever circumstances you like to support your judgement. Jackass.

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    If a job's not worth doing, it's not worth doing right.
  23. Not So Bad quote. by kzinti · · Score: 3, Informative

    LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- James Doohan, the burly chief engineer of the Starship Enterprise in the original "Star Trek" TV series and motion pictures who responded to the apocryphal command "Beam me up, Scotty," died early Wednesday.

  24. I Beam by Himring · · Score: 3, Funny

    "I know this ship like the back of me hand...."

    [bangs head on I-beam and falls down]

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    "All great things are simple & expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." --Churchill
  25. Re:Beem him on up... by Jason+Earl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And all things considered I would bet that Sarah Doohan doesn't mind the fact that she exists.

  26. What is it... by Kjella · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...with Canadians imitating Scotsmen in sci-fi. Dr. Beckett on SG Atlantis is also doing the same. Just seemed like a strange coincidence. It has some charm though, would be boring if everyone spoke plain American-English.

    Kjella

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    Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
    1. Re:What is it... by Ubergrendle · · Score: 4, Informative

      We have a province called "Nova Scotia" -- New Scotland. A large number of immigrants to Canada in the 18th century were Scots and it permeates many aspects of Canadian culture. Look at our early Prime Ministers... "MacDonald", "MacKenzie", etc.

      Sir Sanford Flemming -- world famous Scottish engineer, Scottish descent. Probably the inspiration for Scotty given Doohan's Canadian origins.

      Mike Meyers is known to do a scottish accent or two...

      --
      John Maynard Keynes: "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?"
  27. Re:Wheres CleverNickName? by cecille · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is a post on his website - http://www.wilwheaton.net/

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    ...no two people are not on fire.
  28. Re:Warp Speed Scotty by schon · · Score: 4, Funny

    /me is going to pour some 21 year old Glenlivet on the ground tonight.

    Me too.

    But I'm gonna drink it first. :o)

  29. Re:Beem him on up... by idontgno · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I still deal with management on project schedules according to the "Scotty's Rule". Quoting the biography of Montgomery Scott at Memory Alpha:
    [H]is knowledge and ability to save the ship in a jam would eventually lead to his reputation aboard the Enterprise of that of a 'miracle worker'. This was brought about by his reputation for being able to effect starship repairs in much shorter time periods than were generally accepted as being required. Scott later admitted that he often padded his stated times needed for repairs by a factor of four, in order to appear that much faster.

    In other words, make a good-faith estimate, then double it, because that's the pad to get it done "faster" than you project. Then double it again, because your good-faith estimate is always optimistic.

    RIP, Captain Scott, and clear subspace.

    --
    Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
  30. In the words of Scotty . . . by mmell · · Score: 5, Funny
    (Turbolift Computer voice): "L - l - l - level?"

    (Mr. Scott): "Engineering"

    (Turbolift Computer voice): "Thank you"

    (Mr. Scott): " Up your shaft! "

  31. Re:Beem him on up... by kfg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My father died when I was one year old. He knew he was going to die. My mother knew he was going to die. I am not an accident.

    I do not consider my conception reprehensible behavior on the part of either of my parents. I'm rather glad to be here. Thanks mom and dad. The weather is lovely today and I'm angst free about the whole thing, no matter how unfasionable that may be these days.

    My mother is rather glad to have me here as well, as was my father's mother before she too passed on.

    I am something of him for them; and as I am half him he can hardly have "left" me.

    KFG

  32. An inspiration to engineers everwhere.. by xTK-421x · · Score: 5, Interesting
    One of the things I don't see posted often is that Doohan inspired others to become engineers:
    'He has literally been an inspiration to generations of new engineers. A few years ago Doohan was awarded an honorary doctorate in engineering from the Milwaukee School of Engineering. The reason was, more than half the students applying to the school responded to the question "Why do you want to be an engineer?" with the answer, "Scotty."'
    (taken from StarTrek.com)
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    "TK-421, why aren't you at your post?"
  33. Feel Me Up Scotty by darkonc · · Score: 5, Funny
    Back in the 80's during the Non-Con science fiction and fantasy convention in Edmonton, somebody learned that Doohan was in town doing a promo at a local car dealership. They invited him over, and he agreed -- with the stipulation that no autographs would be allowed (he claimed contractual obligations).

    He arrived as the con chair (who was a big 'Scotty' fan) was speaking to the closing ceremonies. They snuck him in unseen and he walked up to her and gave her a big bear hug from behind.

    Swinging around to slap him, a growl of disapproval changed to a squeal of glee almost mid-swing.

    They later made her a button that read "Feel Me Up Scotty!".

    --
    Sometimes boldness is in fashion. Sometimes only the brave will be bold.
  34. Re:Bad quote. by ptbarnett · · Score: 4, Informative
    Bad quote in that CNN article. All the real trekkies (trekkers? whatever.) know that the exact phrase "Beam me up, Scotty" never happened in any TOS script.

    RTEFA. (E = Entire)

    The last two paragraphs:

    In a 1998 interview, Doohan was asked if he ever got tired of hearing the line "Beam me up, Scotty" -- a line that, reportedly, was never actually spoken on the TV show.

    "I'm not tired of it at all," he replied. "Good gracious, it's been said to me for just about 31 years. It's been said to me at 70 miles an hour across four lanes on the freeway. I hear it from just about everybody. It's been fun."

  35. For another frame of reference... by schon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've never known my father; he's never seen me, although he's probably still alive, and he knows I exist. For all practical intents and purposes, he died before I was born.

    When my mother told my father that she was pregnant, he gave her some money and told her to get an abortion. She gave the money back, and told him to go to hell. They never spoke after that.

    Like me, Sarah Doohan will grow up without a father - but at least she had the opportunity to know him for a few years first. As you say, I'm sure she's glad to be here, even if her father isn't.

  36. Re:Beem him on up... by jejones · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Beem him on up to the big NCC-1701 in the sky.

    And no bloody A, B, C, or D, either.

  37. Doohan saved a fan's life by GuyMannDude · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Damn right. Not only did he expertly play the character that hooked many a kid on the idea of science and engineering, but was also a decorated war veteran and a genuine class act. He was always warm and receptive to his fans and a beloved fixture of the convention circuit.

    This is an important point. Doohan really gave so much back to the community. In the fascinating (and sometimes hilarious) documentary Trekkies, Doohan relates the story of a suicidal Trek fan who confided in him. Doohan took it upon himself to nurse this poor soul back to health. He told the fan that he wanted to see them at the next convention. To his amazement, the fan was there and Doohan graciously met with them, allowing them to come backstage and the whole deal. Doohan tried it again and again the fan showed up at the next convention. They kept this up for a long time (I forget -- it might have been years) when suddenly the fan stopped coming. Doohan feared the worst had happened.

    Years later Doohan was stunned when the fan showed up at a convention out of nowhere! The fan told Doohan that they had turned their life around, enrolled in school, and become ... an electrical engineer.

    If you haven't seen this film you should definitely rent it. Watching Doohan come close to tears as he tells this story is worth the rental fee right there.

    GMD

    1. Re:Doohan saved a fan's life by object88 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Doohan really gave so much back to the community.

      Doohan's contributions were great, but he wasn't the only one. I can't summarize George Takei's vast undertakings, but his involvement with the Japanese-American National Museum and Independent Task Force on Television Measurement are notable.

      George Takei attended James Doohan's last convention and the reception of his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and his retelling is an moving account.

  38. Beam Him Up by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In memoriam James Doohan. The longest surviving "Red Shirt" on the USS Enterprise, his "Scotty" set the standard for generations of geeks and engineers. Working with the latest future technologies, often experimental, under a demanding boss for whom FTL travel, teleporters, galactic communications and more firepower than all of 20th Century Earth combined weren't enough to cakewalk through missions on any given week, Scotty's role model has influenced millions of 20th Century predecessors. His ingenuity, fortitude, and sense of humor while telling the boss that his demands are insane, but doable, even under excruciating time pressure floating around a newly discovered dimension, are an inspiration to us all. Mr. Doohan, in your new journey, go as boldly as you led us in all your merely astral journeys on our televisions, and in our imaginations.

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  39. KIRK is Klingon. by uberdave · · Score: 3, Interesting

    To me, Kirk always seemed like it would be a good Klingon name, along the lines of Kor, Koloth, Kang, etc.

  40. Re:Beem him on up... by afidel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's the lines from the TNG episode "Relics":

    Scotty: "Starfleet captains are like children. They want everything right now and they want it their way. But the secret is to give them only what they need, not what they want."
    LaForge: "Yeah, well, I told the captain I'd have this analysis done in an hour."
    Scotty: "How long will it really take?"
    LaForge: "An hour."
    Scotty: "You didn't tell him now long it would really take, did you?"
    LaForge: "Of course I did."
    Scotty: "Laddie, you got a lot to learn if you want people to think of you as a miracle worker!"

    And those words are one of the guiding principles in everything I do professionally. I always undersell and overexecute. RIP good man, RIP.

    --
    There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
  41. Re:Beem him on up... by kfg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have two, two, two recessive genetic diseases, one of which has the potential to kill me (and always makes my life rather difficult) and the other of which will certainly kill me in time. I have lived much of my life in pain and discomfort.

    Life is suffering.

    Nonetheless, today the sky is a remarkable shade of blue, the sun is warm, but not too hot and the air smells of summer. I have been sitting down by the river where there is a nice breeze blowing and playing violin much of the morning. I like playing violin.

    Life is also the only blessing you will ever receive, and if all it offered me was today I would take it rather than have nothing.

    I see no point in self-inflicted psychological suffering when it is just as easy to play violin. I feel sadness for your father, but because he created his own tragedy needlessly.

    My father made it out of his twenties, but only just. Rheumatic Fever. There was no such thing as a heart transplant at the time.

    Life is suffering; and then you die. If parents never had children to prevent them from suffering and death there wouldn't be any parents in the first place.

    Get thee hence and buy the best pizza in town. Enjoy it.

    Thank your father for making that joy possible.

    KFG

  42. wwii hero too by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Informative
    in addition to the glowing comments about his celebrity, film, and television work, james doohan is a genuine war hero:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/07/20/obit. doohan.ap/index.html

    At 19, James escaped the turmoil at home by joining the Canadian army, becoming a lieutenant in artillery. He was among the Canadian forces that landed on Juno Beach on D-Day. "The sea was rough," he recalled. "We were more afraid of drowning than the Germans."

    The Canadians crossed a minefield laid for tanks; the soldiers weren't heavy enough to detonate the bombs. At 11:30 that night, he was machine-gunned, taking six hits: one that took off his middle right finger (he managed to hide the missing finger on screen), four in his leg and one in the chest. The chest bullet was stopped by his silver cigarette case.
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  43. Actually, it WILL be Scotty beaming you up. by doublem · · Score: 3, Funny

    Up until now, it was Saint Peter for EVERYBODY. The growing population has necessitated some personnel changes. With more people being born all the time, there are also more people dying off. The work load is far too great for Saint Peter alone, so God has authorized some additional "Heavenly Greeters."

    John Candy, for example, will be greeting Canadians. Initially, they weren't going to get their own greeter, but Candy was so persuasive that God decided to give him the job anyway.

    James will of course, be in charge of greeting all the Sci-Fi fans and assorted geeks. Naturally, this will cheese off the die hard Star Wars fans. There was some concern about what to do with George Lucas when he arrived, until someone pointed out that after the prequel trilogy, George won't be approaching the pearly gates anyway.

    I'm told James has already made a few changes. For example, die hard Trekkers will actually hear some transporter sound effects during the transition from a physical body to a divine existence. Die hard Trekkers who are virgins will actually hear "Beam me up Scotty" just before they get beamed up. Deforest will be doing the voice over for now. If Shatner makes it to heaven his voice will be used instead.

    Saint Peter and James are reportedly getting along well, as they both have a fondness for good Scotch and Whiskey. James was quite relieved when he found out Saint Peter had set up a distillery in Heaven, and it was literally staffed by some of the best alcohol artisans on all time.

    Of course the Prohibitionists were PISSEED when they found out about it, and even tried to shut it down. Of course, it's kind of hard to shut down the heavenly distillery and wine makers when God has a glass or two with dinner.

    Anyway, there's no word yet on the other long term changes. For now, dead geeks will be greeted by James' warm and friendly demeanor. James is quoted as saying "When I was told I'd be Scotty long after I was dead, I didn't realize it was going to be quite so literal. I decided to go with the flow and enjoy it long ago, and now I get to welcome new souls into Heaven. I can't think of a better job than that.

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  44. Honored to have met him by still+cynical · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I mentioned this a few months or so ago in the "Hollywood Walk of Fame" thread, but it bears repeating:

    Quite a few years back, I attended a convention with a couple of friends, all of us in college at the time. I have no other Star Trek convention experience to compare it to, but I found him to be a great speaker, funny, intelligent, and not in the least condescending as a celebrity all too often can be in public. He was also very straightforward, as a Shatner comment or two demonstrated.

    After the speech and the Q&A session, he went outside to sit at a table and sign autographs. The line was HUGE. I can't remember why, but my friends and I ended up at the very end of the line. I don't go in for autographs, so maybe I held them up. Anyway, I wait with them, passing quite a bit of time, as Doohan signs autographs, makes small talk, answers questions, hears the same lines and jokes over and over again, etc. Finally, the last people in line (us) make it to the table. I would have expected any celebrity making an appearance to be happy it was over with, sign something for us and break for the door. Hell, _I_ would have. Mr. Doohan instead greets us VERY warmly, makes a big deal about how much of a pain it must have been to stand in line all that time. Maybe I'm jaded, but I honestly never really expected a tv and movie star to sincerely appreciate his fans. He then tells my friend with the camera to not be silly standing there taking pictures, has us come around the table with him and has someone else take our cameras and take pictures of us with him.

    Far too rare of a man. If I remember correctly, his star on the Walk of Fame wasn't bought by himself or his agent as a matter of self-promotion, but by his friends and colleagues of many years who wanted him to get the recognition he deserved. I can't judge anyone's acting talent (ok, maybe SOME people), but acting is what you do, not what you are. And James Doohan was a great human being.

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