I agree, but I think those segments have a lot of life in them. Of course, when those devices are passé, then a lot of other companies will need to make some significant shifts as well. I'm keen to see what Ives, Cook, etc will come up with.
Apple will continue. They still have strong leadership, Jobs will be chairman, and progress will continue. It's not like they're suddenly going to stop making Macbooks, iPhones, and iPads.
If I were into buying stocks, I'd watch to see whether APPL takes much of a dive, and get ready to buy.
a smartphone is (or was supposed to be) a general purpose computer that fits in your hand and can connect to a cell network. although apple has (thru marketing) changed that definition to "phone with touchscreen".
The term "smartphone" was coined by Ericsson, for the r380. It ran Symbian and had a touchscreen. Oh, and "users could not install their own software on the device." So what was that about a general computing device? Sounds more like a smartphone is a phone that can run purpose-built applications. Or perhaps a PDA that can connect to a cell network.
i'd like to have control of my own device. i'd also like everyone to have control of their own devices. i care about other people because the runaway success of iphone impedes on my freedom too. i can't get a nice symbian or windows mobile phone right now. because corps now understand that selling is about tricking unthinking dumbasses, not actually providing a powerful smartphone.
No corporation is stopping you from getting a Symbian or WinMo device. I'm sure there are even some very nice ones out there, for certain values of "nice". I understand that you're upset that you can't or haven't found something that suits your purposes, but companies are not obligated to fulfill your desires. The success of devices that don't do what you want is not an impingement on your freedom.
iphones still cannot do basic smartphone stuff like run arbitrary code.
Running arbitrary code is what delineates a smartphone from a "dumb phone"? First off, what is the advantage in running arbitrary code? What do you mean by "arbitrary code"? What are you looking to do?
I've been using my iPhone for about 3 years, and not once have I lamented the lack of a file manager. Now mind you, I'm not toting around spreadsheets, etc, but it's done a pretty fantastic job of managing my music, audiobooks, tasks, notes, as well as myriad other functions. Compiled, purpose-built applications have done a pretty great job of elevating this device above the status of a so-called "dumb phone".
I'd like to know what arbitrary code you want that can't be put into an application. Or are you bothered by Apple's code vetting process?
The vast majority of the population are stupid as rocks, apple is making things accessible for them.
Wow, way to be a condescending prick. The whole point of computing devices is to make tasks simpler.
I wonder how you would feel if, in order to feed yourself, you had to hunt or grow your own food. Do you know how to do that? I sure don't. I wouldn't care to be catagorized as a "dimwit" by a hunter, because I don't know how to kill my own deer for dinner. But I'm sure glad that the agriculture industry has come around, and made it simpler to put food in my stomach.
As a software engineer, I'm glad to make shit easier for people to do. Your attitude can go crawl under a PDP-11.
At my work, all the computer names are purely functional. However, when I was in school, it was better: Native American tribe names, for example. But my favorite was the natural disasters in one lab (earthquake, tsunami, headcrash, etc.).
Seriously, whenever I hear someone mention that they do iPhone development, they usually follow up with "And I don't really feel comfortable talking about it, because of the agreements Apple made me sign."
And now you can tell them that they needn't be uncomfortable any longer.
If you read the books and listened to the radio plays (or played the Infocom game), you'd know that DNA was quite happy to alter the HHGTTG storyline in order to fit the medium. The fact that the movie diverges from the books should be *expected*, not derided, given DNA's approach to the material.
Yes! It seems that few people grasp this. The story was retold and modified, heavily, for every medium it's been transcribed into.
The iPhone doesn't provide tactile feedback, so you don't know what key is where. I can't imagine how that is an improvement.
You know in the same way that you can type without looking at a keyboard, with your fingers hovering over the keys. After some practice, muscle memory takes over and you just "know" where to move your fingers. You know if you're wrong when the wrong letter shows up on the screen.
God damnit, nevermind. After many more attempts, I understand how. When you said to slide, I was expecting a quick pop-up of punctuation marks, like the accented-characters, not a temporary switch to the full punctuation keyset.
Nothing to see here, move on, and thanks for the tip!
Touch the punctuation key and don't let go, then slide to the punctuation you want and let go.
It will switch back to the alpha.
I'm trying this, but without success. I'm using a non-jailbroken 3G w/ OS 2.0.2. Is it limited to certain apps? Or are you referring about accents on characters, like Ã? That I know how to do.
Ah, I love replying to myself. After typing this, I checked the settings, and I've already enabled an option to double-tap the space for a period followed by a space. That will take me pretty far, but I would still love a comma, semi-colon, maybe a question mark, exclamation mark, etc.
I've been getting used to typing on my iPhone, and for the most part, the autocorrect really does work. The one thing that I haven't worked out yet is punctuation. I have to flip between the alpha keyset and the numeric/punctuation keyset to complete grammatically-correct sentences.
Barring some intuitive input function that I haven't stumbled upon (because like everyone else, I haven't bothered to read a manual), I'm hoping that there will be a punctuation-enhanced keyset at some point in the future, even if it's only available in wide (tilted) mode.
Glad someone mentioned this. My girlfriend has an iGo charger at her office, which has survived a few different phones just by swapping the connector tips.
You can then claim that [the hex/binary/octal dump is] just an excerpt of the first trillion or so digits of pi. By the time Apple's lawyers determine it isn't, the guys who decoded & published it will be long dead.
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The correct ticker symbol is AAPL not APPL, but hey, you are not into buying stocks.
Hah! I think the word I'm looking for is... "oops". :)
I agree, but I think those segments have a lot of life in them. Of course, when those devices are passé, then a lot of other companies will need to make some significant shifts as well. I'm keen to see what Ives, Cook, etc will come up with.
Apple will continue. They still have strong leadership, Jobs will be chairman, and progress will continue. It's not like they're suddenly going to stop making Macbooks, iPhones, and iPads.
If I were into buying stocks, I'd watch to see whether APPL takes much of a dive, and get ready to buy.
a smartphone is (or was supposed to be) a general purpose computer that fits in your hand and can connect to a cell network. although apple has (thru marketing) changed that definition to "phone with touchscreen".
The term "smartphone" was coined by Ericsson, for the r380. It ran Symbian and had a touchscreen. Oh, and "users could not install their own software on the device." So what was that about a general computing device? Sounds more like a smartphone is a phone that can run purpose-built applications. Or perhaps a PDA that can connect to a cell network.
i'd like to have control of my own device. i'd also like everyone to have control of their own devices. i care about other people because the runaway success of iphone impedes on my freedom too. i can't get a nice symbian or windows mobile phone right now. because corps now understand that selling is about tricking unthinking dumbasses, not actually providing a powerful smartphone.
No corporation is stopping you from getting a Symbian or WinMo device. I'm sure there are even some very nice ones out there, for certain values of "nice". I understand that you're upset that you can't or haven't found something that suits your purposes, but companies are not obligated to fulfill your desires. The success of devices that don't do what you want is not an impingement on your freedom.
iphones still cannot do basic smartphone stuff like run arbitrary code.
Running arbitrary code is what delineates a smartphone from a "dumb phone"? First off, what is the advantage in running arbitrary code? What do you mean by "arbitrary code"? What are you looking to do?
I've been using my iPhone for about 3 years, and not once have I lamented the lack of a file manager. Now mind you, I'm not toting around spreadsheets, etc, but it's done a pretty fantastic job of managing my music, audiobooks, tasks, notes, as well as myriad other functions. Compiled, purpose-built applications have done a pretty great job of elevating this device above the status of a so-called "dumb phone".
I'd like to know what arbitrary code you want that can't be put into an application. Or are you bothered by Apple's code vetting process?
The vast majority of the population are stupid as rocks, apple is making things accessible for them.
Wow, way to be a condescending prick. The whole point of computing devices is to make tasks simpler.
I wonder how you would feel if, in order to feed yourself, you had to hunt or grow your own food. Do you know how to do that? I sure don't. I wouldn't care to be catagorized as a "dimwit" by a hunter, because I don't know how to kill my own deer for dinner. But I'm sure glad that the agriculture industry has come around, and made it simpler to put food in my stomach.
As a software engineer, I'm glad to make shit easier for people to do. Your attitude can go crawl under a PDP-11.
Your clients are a bunch of Neanderthals too, eh?
I would like to thank you, sir, for providing me with further means to waste hours and hours of my time. Which I surely shall be doing.
Those little burgers from Burger King make girls have orgasms.
You think that's what a woman's orgasm is like?
At my work, all the computer names are purely functional. However, when I was in school, it was better: Native American tribe names, for example. But my favorite was the natural disasters in one lab (earthquake, tsunami, headcrash, etc.).
I've met one person in my life who actually likes Windows. Her ex husband hated it. That's why she likes it.
No offense, but... do you get out much? There are a lot of people who like Windows, regardless of various passing frustrations.
His right, indeed. And what to the other 0.009% own, in your estimation?
Seriously, whenever I hear someone mention that they do iPhone development, they usually follow up with "And I don't really feel comfortable talking about it, because of the agreements Apple made me sign."
And now you can tell them that they needn't be uncomfortable any longer.
If you read the books and listened to the radio plays (or played the Infocom game), you'd know that DNA was quite happy to alter the HHGTTG storyline in order to fit the medium. The fact that the movie diverges from the books should be *expected*, not derided, given DNA's approach to the material.
Yes! It seems that few people grasp this. The story was retold and modified, heavily, for every medium it's been transcribed into.
The iPhone doesn't provide tactile feedback, so you don't know what key is where. I can't imagine how that is an improvement.
You know in the same way that you can type without looking at a keyboard, with your fingers hovering over the keys. After some practice, muscle memory takes over and you just "know" where to move your fingers. You know if you're wrong when the wrong letter shows up on the screen.
God damnit, nevermind. After many more attempts, I understand how. When you said to slide, I was expecting a quick pop-up of punctuation marks, like the accented-characters, not a temporary switch to the full punctuation keyset.
Nothing to see here, move on, and thanks for the tip!
Touch the punctuation key and don't let go, then slide to the punctuation you want and let go.
It will switch back to the alpha.
I'm trying this, but without success. I'm using a non-jailbroken 3G w/ OS 2.0.2. Is it limited to certain apps? Or are you referring about accents on characters, like Ã? That I know how to do.
Ah, I love replying to myself. After typing this, I checked the settings, and I've already enabled an option to double-tap the space for a period followed by a space. That will take me pretty far, but I would still love a comma, semi-colon, maybe a question mark, exclamation mark, etc.
I've been getting used to typing on my iPhone, and for the most part, the autocorrect really does work. The one thing that I haven't worked out yet is punctuation. I have to flip between the alpha keyset and the numeric/punctuation keyset to complete grammatically-correct sentences.
Barring some intuitive input function that I haven't stumbled upon (because like everyone else, I haven't bothered to read a manual), I'm hoping that there will be a punctuation-enhanced keyset at some point in the future, even if it's only available in wide (tilted) mode.
iGo chargers?
Glad someone mentioned this. My girlfriend has an iGo charger at her office, which has survived a few different phones just by swapping the connector tips.
I would hypothesize that this is to keep the blowing snow out of their eyes.
Damn. I had to read this several times before I realized you weren't saying that the snow was blowing out of their eyes...
I even hear that after they asked for a raise recently, Valve threw them a party with cake.
Really? I heard the cake was a lie.
Expecting users or software to identify good code from bad code is similar to expecting them to solve the "Halting Problem".
<humor>
Oh, come now, that's easy. All code is halting, given sufficient access to the power cord or a sturdy axe.
</humor>
You can then claim that [the hex/binary/octal dump is] just an excerpt of the first trillion or so digits of pi. By the time Apple's lawyers determine it isn't, the guys who decoded & published it will be long dead.
Lawyer1: Is the first digit "3"?
Lawyer2: No.
Lawyer1: UNLEASH THE HOUNDS!!
... think of what burning all that plastic will do to the environment!