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U.S. House Votes to Extend Patriot Act
Rick Zeman writes "In the wake of today's 4 dud bombings in London, the U.S. House has voted to extend the Patriot Act by a vote of 257-171. This includes 10-year extensions to the two other provisions set to expire on December 31, one allowing roving wiretaps, and another allowing searches of library and medical records."
How has YOUR LIFE been effected by the Patriot Act?? I don't want to hear your wild insane "Bush can knock down my door without a warrant" theories, I want to know how YOU have been negatively effected by the patriot act.
Oh yeah, IT HASN'T. Unless your name is Habib and you wear a turbin to work then nobody gives a fvck what you do. I also know that if 9/11 occurred during the presidency of a Democrat you'd be STFUing right about now, you wouldn't even see 100000 crap articles like this on slashdot.
PUT UP OR SHUT UP, HOW HAS THE PATRIOT ACT EFFECTED YOU????
So your point is that there are bad people in the FBI?
No there are bad people everywhere. There are also good people. There are lazy people. There are people who invent good things. Does that prove anything? No not at all.
Get over yourself and just get on with life. The important thing is shit like this *just doesn't matter*. If you want to see things that really matter, go to a country like Rwanda and see what real problems are all about.
I mean OMG the FBI can check my library records!!! Thank god we have people like you eternally vigilant that can save us from life shattering changes like this. Wake me up *when* *something* *important* *happens* that is not just people trying to fix a bad situation as best they can by doing their jobs.
Ok, I'm going to let you in on a secret.
We don't listen to you because you are a talker, interested in sounding like you have some "inside" knowledge, that somehow came from your superior insight.
But you don't. What you do have is a flair for dramatically overstating a position, spouting rhetoric, and essentially wasting time with your gasbag antics.
Stop LYING about what's happening (and by that I mean INTENTIONALLY exaggerating for effect) because it makes you look silly.
"Is this guy any less likely to be a terrorist than the first one?"
Yes.
"Or are you generalizing the Muslim faith as a bunch of hate mongering terrorists. So much for tolerance."
KORAN commands to kill infidels:
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191
I'M not generalizing anything, simply stating what is outlined in their (hehe) holy text.
You can shut the fuck up now.
What makes you competent to judge that? What do you REALLY know about what's going on?
I hate you arrogant know it all fuckers who think that you're qualified to comment on everything under the sun.
You're a NOBODY who knows essentially NOTHING about what is going on, and you think that you have insight.
The only possible reason for that is incredible arrogance.
I love that you got modded insightful, despite the fact that you have no fucking idea what you are talking about.
If you bothered to actually learn about it ( you haven't, so don't lie we can tell from you post) you would realize enemy combatant status and has nothing to do with the PATRIOT act.
But god forbid you actually INFORM yourself.
How do morons like you get modded insightful?
Oh, right by other morons. If you agree with parent, and find yourself cursing me, you are one of those morons.
"Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, but you seem to be saying that it's okay to hold "enemy combatants" without proof."
Yes
"If that's the case, what is the process for determining who is an "enemy combatant?"
Ok, so I would ask you, why would you feel the need to comment when you admit YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
Don't you think you should have researched the subject before formulating an opinion, or is this indicative of how you come to decisions generally?
but...while I understand it's a gut reflex to say "OMFG!!!!" like all your friends, precisely what is bad in any of the Patriot Act specifics? I mean, take off the tinfoil hat, set aside your ASSUMPTION that Bush 43 & crew are the personification of (your particularly secular version of) Satan on earth and read through the Patriot Act.
Personally I don't find a single thing SPECIFICALLY to object to. I don't mind the US government looking through my library withdrawls - not that they actually ever have even used that power - oh noes! they are going to see that I read David Sedaris' latest book! So? And yes, I WOULD like them to know if my neighbor has checked out lots of books with blueprints of government buildings as well as books on explosives. And I don't mind at all if they search his house and don't tell him about it immediately.
"BUT WAIT" the hyper liberals say "WHAT IF THEY DECIDE TO INVESTIGATE YOU BASED ON YOUR READING LIST?" First, that's pure speculation and in my experience ALL the real criticisms of the Patriot Act RELY on such a flight of fancy as their first step - it's never specifically about the Act, it's about what the government *might* do with the information. That alone should be enough to bankrupt the critics.
But let's run with the supposition for giggles. Hey, investigate away. Tap my phone. Search my garbage. Read my email. Plant a camera to watch me have marital relations with my wife. My only objection is that it would be a waste of my tax dollars but aside from that? No problem here. Funny, perhaps my lack of concern has to do with my lack of DOING ANYTHING WRONG?
I understand that reflexively a lot of people will knee-jerk that this is a horrible restriction of 'civil rights' but color me unconvinced at the overreaction of a bunch of near-professional-level drama queens.
IMO nobody's restricted your ability to vote with your feet. Please. Go to Canada if you're so unhappy. (Sorry Canada)
Until someone can point out a specific application of the Patriot Act as unfair and hurtful, I'll just lump all of you guys in with the gang that's been telling us that the world's going to end "any moment now" since what, about 1970?
Until I see something myself, I'm simply not going to believe your speculation that the Sky is Falling.
-Styopa
Simple. Timmy's skin was white. Padilla's is brown.
Anyways the CIA and the FBI were not sharing information before 9/11 and that's a real problem when the government is not talking to the government. Most of the Patriot Act has nothing to do with citizens' privacy issues, and is not evil terrible Big Brother stuff. There is some bad stuff in there and that's the only thing that gets attention. That's what needs to be striken, IMO. I don't think the whole thing is a total loss.