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Thompson Goes After Sims 2 Nudity

magicbond_007 writes "Miami lawyer Jack Thompson is at it again, this time with something above and beyond absurd. Gamestop is reporting that Thompson has accused The Sims 2 of contain obscene material. From the article: 'In the statement, Thompson says, "Sims 2, the latest version of the Sims video game franchise ... contains, according to video game news sites, full frontal nudity, including nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair."' At this rate kids won't be able to play Mario because Princess Peach is dressed too slutty."

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  1. In the wake of Hot Coffee by darkmayo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who didnt see this coming.

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    1. Re:In the wake of Hot Coffee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I saw it coming.

      There's been patches for some time that get rid of the dithering. This really isn't much different than Hot Coffee -- the content is there, just someone going out of their way to get rid of the dithering. Or in the event that certain parts of the anatomy aren't that detailed, who's to say there aren't patches which change the character models, or apply different textures?

      Whether or not this gets covered by the media at all will be interesting to see -- the Sims is much, much more tame in nature than GTA. The Sims is akin to "playing house" more than anything.

  2. it's for the best... by ajservo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wouldn't let my sims bathe or potty anyway.

  3. Boycott! by simcop2387 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am boycotting this author for his obscene usage of the word penis in sexual situations, won't somebody think of the children?! He's exposing them to suggestive language thats even worse than pictures!

  4. Attack on barbies? by Punboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have the feeling, based on his barbie and ken comments towards the end, that he is going to attack the entire Barbie line next. No, its not a bloody admission that "ken and barbie features" shouldn't be displayed, its put there for comical value. Its funny to see things blurred out.

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    1. Re:Attack on barbies? by ArsonSmith · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ken just helps men with small penises to not be such a shock when a woman first sees it. After all if they are use to seeing Ken, even a small one should be enough.

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  5. Hmmm by kenp2002 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wow and after how many seasons of NYPD, Nip and Tuck, Sopranos, Hill Street Blues, The Shield, South Park, anything ever made by Aaron Spelling, Buffy, OC, and 90% of network prime time, and the News I nearly forgot about the evil Sims game poisoning the minds of our youth as the grade school cheerleaders are fucking bump-and-grinding in competitions with songs Like BARBIE GIRL and role models like Spears and Aguleria. Jebus Fucking Rice man I almost forgot about stories of incest, pedophelia, suicide, demonic possession, homosexual identity crises, and murder from that sick pervert fuck Shakespeare. Thank God we censored such static works as Milton's Paradise Lost and Dante's Inferno from tainting our children with such sick visions of people with their head up their asses. THANK YOU GOVERNMENT FROM SHIELDING US FORM OBVIOUS LAZY FUCKING PARENTS THAT ARE SO ILL EQUIPPED TO DISCIPLINE THEIR CHILDREN FEAR THEY'LL GET SUED BY THEM FOR DEPRIVING THEM ACCESS TO SUCH OFFENSIVE CONTENT.

    Oh I can solve the problem....

    TURN THE FUCKING TV OFF!

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    1. Re:Hmmm by Punboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While I agree with you in the fact that a majority of these parents who are complaining need to take things into their own hands, you should really try approaching the way you say things in a calmer, less... abrasive manner. For example: Its funny how after so many season of high-rated TV shows (NYPD, Nip and Tuck, Sopranos, Hill Street Blues, The Shield, South Park, anything ever made by Aaron Spelling, Buffy, OC, and 90% of network prime time, and the News), they seem to be attacking video games. These are the things that seem to be "poisoning our youth". Things have gotten so bad that cheerleaders in gradeschool are actually being taught to dance suggestively. The parents actually ENCOURAGE this sort of behavior. The parents are also buying their kids video games (like San Anreas) without even paying attention to what it is. It seems to me that parents today want the government to raise their kids, and want no part in their upbringing whatsoever. I personally think that the government needs to lessen restrictions, and put some responsibility on the parents for a change.

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  6. This just in by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 5, Funny

    People have sexual organs.

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    1. Re:This just in by macrom · · Score: 4, Funny

      Except the people on Slashdot. Most of them are Unix.

    2. Re:This just in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You make a very good point, actually.

      Go back to the GTA:SA thing. The problem was they found out that between psycopathically antisocial mass murdering rampages you can have consensual sex. SEX....the reason we are all here on this earth! It will corrupt the kids....the sex that is, not the senseless violence and mass murder of police and bystander alike.

      It's all so freaking absurd.

  7. Re:Wait a sec.. by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes.
    intprop censorgridsize 0 Takes off censoring

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  8. ... But Graphic Violence is just fine. by Mr.Phil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What a great society we Americans have these days. I can watch what is basically Crime Scene Porn on the major networks any night of the week I want, see countless murders happen on TV, and basically dismember characters in pretty much any video game I want to, watch more than simulated sex acts on cable, and listen to some pretty graphic swearing on television.

    But God help us if little Bobbie might have seen a blur on some "sim" in the tub. We already know if s/he wants to see anything of the sort, their hitting all the free super link porno sites anyway.

    What is behind this outcry is the fact that most kids have these games and parents are finding that "Gee, I must be a lousy parent because I didn't know that my kids could do this and frankly didn't care because the distraction kept my kids quiet. I'll pretend to be horrified at this so that other people don't think I'm a bad parent, while I really couldn't care less."

    Let's put it this way. My son saw more graphic sex in the gorilla house on a recent visit to the zoo than is possible in these games. Quick, let's make the zoo "AO" and fine the zookeepers for not having warnings that the critters might get jiggy.

    Can't wait for the next "important social issue" to come up. It's going to be the horrors of chunky peanut butter or some such tripe.

    *sigh*

  9. Uhhhhh... by rexstuff · · Score: 4, Funny

    From the article:
    "'This is no different than what is in San Andreas, although worse.'"

    So somehow it's worse without actually being any different? I'm confused...

  10. whew! by np_bernstein · · Score: 4, Funny

    for I second I thought that said "Dave Thomas". Thank god it's not; it would be horrible to hear about the founder of a fast food chain being resurected and going after anyone, even if it is EA. Remember kids: zombies are never fun to play with.

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  11. So you want to protect the children, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So you want to protect the children, is that what you're saying? Are you saying that children are protected by being taught that sex and sexual organs are morally wrong?

    This kind of skewed view of life just kills me. Ultimately, this will just do more damage to children. They'll feel guilty about their bodies! That is just plain twisted.

    Fuck these politicians. Revolt.

  12. Oh, ye puritans by J23SE · · Score: 3, Funny

    A guy of his caliber probably restricts his own access to his nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair.

    Otherwise, how else would he be such a shining beacon of moral righteousness and overall upstanding citizenry? We must all repent; We're not worthy.

  13. I'm rooting Thompson by Anm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...to make an ass out of himself. I'm hoping an attack like this gets some public attention and >>hopefully the public is smart enough to realize the claim is baseless and he looses credibility and support for all future claims.

    I can hope, can't I?

    Anm

  14. I think I speak for everyone... by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    when I say:
    FOR FUCK'S SAKE, WHAT'S YOUR DAMN PROBLEM?!

    Yes i'm yelling. What's wrong with people?! How the fuck will banning the sims "protect the children"?!

    In Europe nudity is not considered "bad", in Japan it's not considered "bad".
    Hell, I saw some European commercials showing full nudity, in not too late hours.
    In Japan the whole genre of adult games is a huge business and they sell for PC and consoles.

    Only in the US and Muslim countries nudity is considered a really bad thing.
    And what do we get? The population explodes, full of STDs, unwanted pregnancy and so on.

    So. GET A FUCKING GRIP ON YOURSELF! SEX IS NOT BAD. NUDITY IS NOT BAD. IT'S ONLY THE NATURAL THING.

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  15. Google Images + Radio Button = Nudity | THE KIDS!! by flowerHercules · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Television commercial's and programs alike have been blurring out (or black boxing) explicit nudity for ages without getting much attention in the sake of children, but nobody is throwing around lawsuits to stop them.

    You put those blocks in to keep the content from being seen, if someone created a modification that allowed your TV to remove those blocks and blurs and fill in what was really there, would it be the fault of companies like Ventura for having that content in originally?

    Instead of attacking the programmers or producers for, rightfully, removing or blurring the explicit content, why aren't Rockstar and Electronic Arts suing the people that made the patches? Why aren't people like Jack Thompson filing suit against them? After all, the material wasn't meant to be seen by the consumer.

    Neither Rockstar nor EA deserve to get sued for filtering the content in question and not sufficiently protecting against malicious (not to mention perverted) modders from exposing the code for what it was . As far as I'm concerned, both the Sims and GTA were hacked, slandering the name of legitimate, trustworthy companies. GTA wasn't trying to sneak anything past ESRB against 'moms' will. EA wasn't trying to expose children to explicit nudity...as far as the allegations go: the labia was not visible.

  16. Screenshots of nude cheat by Nelson+Minar · · Score: 3, Informative

    I just made some screenshots of enabling the nude cheat in Sims 2. Here, see for yourself. The only thing there is some disturbingly asexual smooth models.

  17. Re:Wait a sec.. by sgant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But you don't see anything like pubic hair or nipples or anything with this cheat, you have to go out of your way to download a skin that has all these things...much like a nude skin for UT2004 or Quake or whatever.

    This isn't a secret cheat or anything that was left in the code like San Andreas.

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  18. Groundless Bullshit by Rie+Beam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please, The Sims is a tame as milk. I can almost agree with him on the GTA thing (although I enjoy the series), simply because it's obviously designed and left in the game, even though I find it hypocritical that he wouldn't seek a lawsuit before the mini-game was common knowledge (as if the violence and the hooker-in-a-car from the original weren't enough). But The Sims / The Sims 2 (the "blur" occurs on both version, if you remember)? Has this man ever seen a Barbie or Ken doll naked? That's about the extent of it. I especially love this line:

    "Sims 2, the latest version of the Sims video game franchise... contains, according to video game news sites, full frontal nudity, including nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair."

    No, no it doesn't, and "video game news sites" are not a source to base a lawsuit on, especially if you can't name the site or sites in question. The only thing that might make for evidence in anything whatsoever is the following site I ran into on the way to look for "proper" screenshots:

    http://www.adultgamereviews.com/nudesims.shtml

    Now, this is not what he is accusing EA of - this is a skin patch, which should tell you right there what the deal is - if you want to see nude Sims with details, you're going to need a patch, because they're little more than mannequins under the blur. This would not exist if they had full-frontal nudity, penii, etc.

    Groundless lawsuit by an ignorant man. Sick of this shit.

  19. Re:Censor parent... by snuf23 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah it's bad enough when they look down their pants and figure it out!

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  20. Re:Wait a sec.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And the original Hot Coffee code had two fully clothed people dryhumping until the nudity was hacked in. The Sims has barbie dolls dryhumping until someone used the skin editor that comes with the game to draw nip's and pub's. What's the difference, really? Other than GTA being everyone's favorite scapegoat.

    If one follows this "but it was already there" logic to conclusion, why not automatically rate a pg13 film with brief nudity XXX once it hits DVD. I mean, a kid could always pause a nudie scene so it lasts longer then what's acceptable for an R movie.

    Absurd? Totally, but no more so than worrying that kids might see some pixel bewbs in a game where you can shoot cops in the face after banging a hooker. Anyhoo, I belive the term I'm looking for is "slippery slope".