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Google Launches Scholar Beta

Jaidev writes "'Stand on the shoulders of giants' is what Google claims its new service allows you to do. Google Scholar enables you to search specifically for scholarly literature, including peer-reviewed papers, theses, books, preprints, abstracts and technical reports from all broad areas of research. Use Google Scholar to find articles from a wide variety of academic publishers, professional societies, preprint repositories and universities, as well as scholarly articles available across the web."

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  1. Dupe/old news by frazzydee · · Score: 5, Funny

    A typo seen in the first character?! CoyboyNeal, this must be a record!

    Oh, and maybe this was a dream, but wasn't Google Scholar launched a long time ago? Nope, wasn't a dream: this entry in the google blog (dated October 18th 2004) announces the launch of the beta version. Although scholar is still in beta, surely it shouldn't be referred to as google's "new" service. This story is also (needless to say) a Dupe.

    1. Re:Dupe/old news by jZnat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Give him a break. Haven't you noticed the recent /. fad is to announce every little thing Google does? If there hasn't been a story about what they're doing in at least 12 hours, a dupe is posted instead.

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    2. Re:Dupe/old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      maybe this was a dream

      You get that feeling too? The only reason I keep coming here is the consistent stream of dupes coupled with my poor memory constantly spins me out. It's like being stoned.

  2. homework solved! by intmainvoid · · Score: 5, Funny

    They should have just cut to the chase and called it Google Homework.

    1. Re:homework solved! by hoka · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't see why they should. I've had a significant amount of luck using it before for gathering work for research papers and upper division writing classes (Comp Sci ones that is). I've also used it a bit in my offtime to look for some cool things, though I havn't had much luck in that regard.

    2. Re:homework solved! by Buran · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd like to see your average grade school or college kid make use of the sort of thing Google Scholar is aimed at. This is high-level research paper work it's aimed at (many of its results are papers from scholarly journals) and while "homework" may occasionally refer them, I'd say that's a little out of the "homework" league ...

  3. #oldnews. by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thank you for posting this informative information, next would you mind running a story on google maps, google news, and maybe google firefox toolbar?

    I can't believe these people are making more money than I am.

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  4. Intriguing. by millennial · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One problem with standing on the shoulders of giants:
    You have to figure out how to climb them first.
    Seriously, though, this seems like what the internet was meant to be, back in "the day." IIRC, the 'net started out as an joint initiative involving the government and several academic institutions as a means of creating a repository of knowledge. I'm glad Google is getting into this game, since they seem to have a pretty solid search method figured out. Besides, it could certainly make researching for my thesis a bit easier.

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    1. Re:Intriguing. by snarkh · · Score: 2, Funny
      One problem with standing on the shoulders of giants: You have to figure out how to climb them

      Simple -- run them into the ground first.

    2. Re:Intriguing. by hazem · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The other thing about the "standing on the shoulders of giants" is that many believe that Newton was being mean-spirited when he said it, rather than visionary in his views of the source of his brilliance.

      "Science: A History 1534-2001" by John Gribbin which suggests that his comment was in fact a barely disguised personal attack. It written in a letter to a scientific competitor, Robert Hooke, who had complained, correctly, that Newton was not giving him proper credit for his discoveries. Newton's response that he had seen further by "standing on the shoulders of Giants" was intended to rule out Hooke, who was famously short and hunchbacked. This is not 100% accepted history but it does seem to fit in with Newton's general demenour and behaviour.

      It's a great saying, nonetheless.

  5. This is news? by DosBubba · · Score: 3, Informative

    Google Scholar was launched 11/18/04.

    1. Re:This is news? by DrEldarion · · Score: 5, Funny

      Americans win independence!
      Posted by CowboyNeal on Saturday July 23, @12:53PM
      from the take-that-British dept.
      GWashington writes ";Finally, after too many battles to count, we have won our independence." What does this mean for our privacy? Will the new government be too invasive?

    2. Re:This is news? by revery · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your story also differs in that it might actually provoke an insteresting discussion...

  6. Neat. by Short+Circuit · · Score: 5, Funny

    Professors don't like it when I use multiple Wikipedia references...

    1. Re:Neat. by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Many wiki articles cite the sources they use. Why not refer to the original instead of wiki? Often those sources will give you much more information than the wiki.

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  7. Is this news? by geighaus · · Score: 3, Informative

    The service has been around at least for a year. What exactly has been added to it now?

  8. Research edge by fugginsuds · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does it not bother anyone but me that this will give Google a monstrous research edge, as they will be able to determine trend data, as well as searches that have no results, meaning items that have not yet been researched or published. I find this extremely disturbing that a company can do that.

    1. Re:Research edge by Livn4Golf · · Score: 3, Funny

      This might be a page for you to check out:

      http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=tin+foil+hat

    2. Re:Research edge by 834r9394557r011 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      oohh nooo, they may be able to find out what needs to be learned. Wouldn't you think its better to find out sooner about something that needs to be reaserched and understood, to have more time to reaserch it. well not more time really, but just being able to find out about it now rather than in two years is great. that means we reap the benefits of it sooner.

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    3. Re:Research edge by 0xC0FFEE · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nah, CiteSeer is still THE resource for Computer Science related papers. And it's sponsored (in part) my Microsoft Research (where has NEC gone?). So we have a nice healthy competition going on. yay!

  9. Since we're digging up old Google stories... by Smitedogg · · Score: 3, Funny

    In related news, Google announced today that they're going to hold their IPO.

  10. Not ready? by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This previous article claims that Google Scholar was inferior compared to other services like Highwire. Has it been changed much in the last month, or is it still not as good as it could be?

    Yes, I realize that it's still in "beta", but "beta" may as well mean "v1.0" to google.

    1. Re:Not ready? by cdills · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This has been discussed at length before, but the determination of the /. crowd was that though Scholar and things like Highwire profess to "do the same thing", they don't.

      Highwire allows you to search for articles in catagories, published on certain dates, regarding certain topics. It's a classic database search engine, where the database contains simple information about articles. Scholar is a FULL TEXT search engine.

      If you want to find all the articles that relate to Penguin migration patterns, use Highwire.

      If you want to find a good example of where someone uses the XYZ method to support thier paper and you don't care about the subject, use Scholar.

      They are both tools, and should only be viewed as such.

  11. Is it not been live for months already? by jberends · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have been using this service for over half a year now, as long as it is integrated in my Firefox toolbar (The way I found out). What is the fuzz about it? Why is it on /.? Actually is it really helpfull to find the 'meaningfull' papers (# of citations) in most subjects as a starting point for research. But it cannot beat to search through, and compare references of papers in a subject.

  12. It helped me scoop a NIJ paper by scupper · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just used Scholar this morning looking for an abstract from the American Society of Criminology's "CRIMINOLOGY & Public Policy" journal.

    The original abstract:
    "Trajectories of Crime at Places: A Longitudinal Study of Street Segments in the City of Seattle"
    Criminology & Public Policy, American Society of Criminology
    Vol. 42 (2), May 2004, pp.283-322.
    David Weisburd, Shawn Bushway, Cynthia Lum, Sue-Ming Yang


    Yielded this from Google Scholar:

    THE CRIMINAL CAREERS OF PLACES: A LONGITUDINAL STUDY
    http://scholar.google.com/url?sa=U&q=http://www.nc jrs.org/pdffiles1/nij/grants/207824.pdf
    David Weisburd, Ph.D. Principal Investigator University of Maryland, College Park & The Hebrew University, Jerusalem Cynthia Lum, Ph.D. Project Director Northeastern University, Boston Sue-Ming Yang, M.A. Research Assistant University of Maryland, College Park
    July 31, 2004
    National Institute of Justice, DOJ

    A subsequent NIJ grant funded report based on the abstract I was looking for.

  13. In other news... by rbarreira · · Score: 3, Funny

    Google beta launched! New search engine which promises to organized the world's information neatly. You can find it here.

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  14. Old news? by Quixote · · Score: 2, Interesting
    As others have mentioned, this is old news. This begs the question: is there something special going on between Google and Slashdot? In other words, is there some sort of payola involved?? Just like Roland Pipequaille(?), it is strange how even the smallest Google stories make it into Slashdot.

    I think the Slashdot editors/owners should come out and tell us (the paying customers) if this is indeed the case.

  15. Famous (and not so famous) quotes by The+Real+Nem · · Score: 5, Funny

    "If I have seen farther than others, it is because I was standing on the shoulders of giants."
    - Isaac Newton

    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders."
    - Hal Abelson

    "In computer science, we stand on each other's feet."
    - Brian Reid

    1. Re:Famous (and not so famous) quotes by wwwrench · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If I have seen farther than others, it is because I was standing on the shoulders of giants."
      - Isaac Newton

      Somthing interesting about Newton's quote -- it is usually taken as a really modest statement about Newton's contributions and the nature of research. In fact, it was mostly intended as an insult to his rival Robert Hooke, who was practically a midget!

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  16. Hey dude, that's nothing... by mrRay720 · · Score: 3, Funny

    the REAL news is that Google have just released a search engine!

    Anyway, I'm off to try out the new beta of Windows 95...

  17. Katz by pamri · · Score: 2, Interesting
  18. unfortunately, not up-2-date by vlad_petric · · Score: 2, Informative
    My very strong impression is that they did a crawling when they started it, and just stayed with that database.

    I'm unable to find stuff published in my field this year with google scholar (including 2 of my papers).

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  19. Google it.. by duniyadnd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Google about Google Scholar to find out when it was released before posting it... remember.. Google Search came out only a week ago, and is still relatively new and can help you find information on the net.

  20. It's the Citations, Stupid! by backlonthethird · · Score: 4, Informative

    This still doesn't hold a candle to a good university library site. Finding good academic articles is still all about context context context. You need to know what journals you want, what authors aren't crackpots, etc ec. My own university's library system (U of Minnesota), www.lib.umn.edu, has great research guides to help provide that context.

    As an example, A Google Scholar search for Kafka doens't have the sort of literary references I'm looking for until the third page. Is it just that scientific articles are more likely the be available on the web?

    One very good thing about Google Scholar is that it specifically searches references. This is an advance, and further work on the engine should be in this direction (I'm thinking a visual web of articles). The first thing you do when you find a halfway decent article is check out its references and then go and grab those, *especially* if more than one article references something. It's often hard to know what the really important watershed articles and books are in a given subject when you're new to it (again with the context). A quick, visual chart or web of articles and the articles they reference would be awesome for figuring that out. Something like their score for web pages but based solely on references. This is already how it works (hits are sorted by the number of articles that have cited them), but it sure would be nice to be able to, say, check articles that fit your search genre and uncheck those that don't. I could then uncheck the scientific articles and watch the literary ones move up on my search.

    Rambling now. Done now

  21. Re:Follow the money. by Buran · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can't read a lot of the links from home but can if I'm on campus, which has a sitewide read license for many journals. I think Google Scholar is meant for researchers' use (like my lab's) more than it is the general public.

    it IS annoying, however. Take a look at the Public Library of Science http://www.plos.org/ for an organization that believes in open access for everyone. I'm hoping that takes off.

  22. Re:Is their a reason that this is new? by Radak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is their a reason that this is new? Because back in January I used it to do research for a paper.

    Obviously not an English paper.

  23. Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Funny how many people in this thread commented on this story without appearing to know that Google Scholar has already been available for ages. Just goes to show that this site main target group is really 13 year old 1337 dudes, as anyone seriously interested in computer science (or, for that matter, any other research subject) uses Google Scholar almost on a daily basis.

    And don't even get me started on the editor not knowing about it either...

  24. Proper citations by roffe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And when is scholar.google.com going to support exporting to BibTeX-style citations?

    Huh? Huh? Huh!?

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  25. *or the user by mbius · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Try Franz Kafka. I'm guessing anything done by a guy named Kafka in the last fifty years, hence relevant to current research, is not what you're looking for. The priority is to serve the bleeding edge and worry about history eventually.

    It's really great for science, simply for transparent navigation. The convenience over the library system (search title, select journal, login, find year, find volume, find article) or existing frontends (login, select author/title/keyword, worry about syntax, hope what you want is in the DB) isn't brain surgery. But it's quite nice.

    There's about a 25-year availability sweet spot between "too old to have been digitized yet" and "recent enough the publisher is still ekeing profits out of a subscription model." Any impetus for improvement to belongs to copyright holders. Their fees come from schools, and recent years have seen their own microcosm of BS from certain money-grubbing weasels.

    The short version is that libraries' print catalogues just shrank because Elsevier decided to price-gouge; generic numbers are $1M at x% of total journals = 10x% of journal budget. The contract says anything you cancel makes everything you keep cost more.

    It's a tempest in a teacup, but so was the price of a CD in 1995.

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  26. Full text search save a lot of time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am google schoolar + PubMed addict, so my opinion is not objective at all.

    Google schoolar pros:
    * full text search,
    * save a lot of time because it shows a few lines of text surrounding your query,
    * articles at the top have highest number of citations, so I know what is popular/respected publication,
    * in advanced search I can select publications from the last year(s) with not so many citations,
    * each publication has a link listing who cite this publication (some journals do not provide such a list),

    cons:
    * If your query words are common, there is very little you can do to narrow the search results,
    * areas that are not publication-driven (computer science?) does not cite others so often and are not well organized by google scholar (in contrast for example to life sciences),
    * if you do not know what are you looking for, then google scholar is not good for you,
    * if you like (or have time) to read the whole papers (instead of just interesting parts) probably you shoud go to the library, not Internet.

    etc.

    1. Re:Full text search save a lot of time! by insomnio · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I always found scholar to be the worst option I have. All the academic search engines that my university uses provide full text and/or where I can get the paper at my library.