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DS Wifi Bounty Set
Chris_Yates writes "A bounty has been set to go to the first person to release an open-source tcp/ip implementation for Nintendo DS's wifi hardware capabilities. It may not include illegal source from the SDK, it must compile under a free compiler, preferrably GCC, and you can use other libraries as long as they are non-contaminating. There are also three milestones to the bounty, the first one winning 50%, and the second two winning 25% of the bounty. They are: 1) Figuring out the register set to accomplish (specific list) 2) Implementing correct connect/disconnect code and implementing correct send/recieve code, each of which works both with DSes and PCs and 3) Bootstrapping TCP/IP (or, UDP/IP)"
is it not already using the netbsd stack ?
if not use that as a start
regards
John Jones
"Hackers of the planet unite..."
"Hack the planet!"
It's very cool to see a bounty for something like this...
"A truly wise man realizes he knows nothing."
This has been out for a while (last april):http://users.belgacom.net/bn967347/
Here's another explanation: http://www.aaronrogers.com/nintendods/wifime.php
and also of DS interest: http://ds.darkain.com/hack/
My question is thus: would this only be useful in allowing wireless play in homebrew games, or would it also be helpful in creating tunneling software (allowing wireless enabled DS games to play through the internet using a PC for tunneling)?
Nintendo releases their first online title, will the bounty go to the already very rich Nintendo?
I'm glad this finally got placed on SlashDot.
This could really use the publicity.
I wish I could be of more use to the DS' community myself, but I lack a GBA flash card and the experience to code anything for the DS(/GBA).
I may buy a GBA flash card some time soon, though. I've already bought a RaLink Wifi card to be able to send (Nintendo RSA signed) demo's to the DS from my PC and hopefully (but doubtebly) also unsigned (homebrew) code somewhere in the future.
- Agilo
This is a fantasic. I really hope that someone figures out how to do this. If it is reverse engineered then the DS could become a very nice PDA type device. Once this happens, and is publicised, then Nintendo could benefit hugely from it. I'm off to donate money and pimp this around the place.
This isn't new news, but maybe someone from the /. crowd would be able to figure this out.
A GPLed driver will be considered unusable by much of the homebrew scene. We will simply not look at it and continue developing a truely public domain library. GPL is considered "infecting" because it not only controls its own distribution but also the distribution of all code built against it.
The reason licenses like GPL are not allowed, but LGPL is OK, is because if the driver and IP stack are GPL, anybody who wanted to use them would also have to open-source their application or game due to the licensing restrictions. By using another open-source license like BSD, people are allowed to use it freely even if they decide not to open-source their entire program. The GPL is a good thing, but forcing someone to open-source their software because they linked with a library just isn't right.
Would he sell the binary to Nintendo or a third party?
Isn't there a foggy legal area already in the realm of hacking game consoles, specifically Nintendo game consoles? I remember all of the N64 doctor companies and such getting hammered by nintendo. Why would someone need to keep their source closed for a homebrew DS game or utility?? I don't think that they would be able to legitamitly sell the software. I mean I can be totally off base here, but thats the first thing that popped into my head.
Well, my question is what can we do with it once its made. I've gathered the fact that you can use it to do tunnel DS games over the internet. Here is my idea (don't know if its possible or practical) what about a GB Advanced cartridge for the TCP/IP stack and little utils (like putty, etc) and a DS cartridge for things like web browsers or email utils. Not sure if it would work to use both cartridges at the same time or whatnot.
"And The Geek Shall Inherit The Earth" --Jeff Darlington
Seems like the guy isn't that innocent. I wonder what he'll do with all the money if someone else release a working driver under the GPL...
Wait for someone to do it right, pretty much. What's this about innocence? I even gave explicit language stating a money release clause at six months, ffs.
The reason that contaminating licenses aren't allowed is simple. I'm part of a homebrew community consisting entirely of people whose greatest dream is to go commercial. It would be counterproductive to force someone to rip the network stack out the second they made the cut.
Besides, almost everyone's stack of choice is lwIP, whose stack is commercial friendly. The TCP/IP part isn't the hard part; the only reason I put any money towards that at all was to convince people that the end product would be easy to use, and thusly to give money (huhu.) The hard part is figuring out how the actual hardware works. That's what the bounty is really about.
StoneCypher is Full of BS