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Can a Customer Loyalty Database Change a Society?

Retrospeak writes "'Organisations that continue to put the brand at their epicentre and pay only lip service to the notion that the customer is king, will fail. It's just a matter of time.' So says business strategist Clive Humby. His marketing company, Dunnhumby handles the loyalty scheme database for Tesco, the third-largest retailer in world and the biggest retailer in Britain. This fact combined with a strong customer loyalty program means they may have one of the largest databases in the world. The Economist goes on to state that Britain itself is being changed by the secondary effects of Tesco's massive customer-driven database." From the article: "Some of these changes are small. The dust jacket of a book that was to be sold in-store was recently altered because a Tesco buyer did not like it. Others are more fundamental. Before the Clubcard came along, the largest panels that suppliers could use consisted of around 20,000 people. But suppliers can now pay for access to the database and many just rely on Tesco."

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  1. I am NaN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As long as customer databases are mistaken for customer service, it'll certainly not change anything for the better.

    1. Re:I am NaN by Smallpond · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most businesses are moving away from interpersonal service to self-serve backed by monitoring. Look at self-serve gas, supermarket checkout, ATMs. I think ATMs are a win, since they reduce lines. In supermarkets I find a human if I'm in a hurry, tho. Databases are replacing the "Mr. Whipple" model of the manager who knows his customers. Now its the database miners who know their clients. Its just automation moving higher up the chain.

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    2. Re:I am NaN by cdrguru · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Well, those minimum-wage clerks in stores are getting harder and harder to come by. What you would like it a motivated, English-speaking person that is nice to the customers. What they have settled for in the past as a unmotivated, English-as-an-afterthought, person that feels they just aren't paid enough to be nice.

      Increasing wages doesn't help - often the only people that seem to be hired are immigrant labor that aren't all that interested in higher wages - they will do the same low-quality work for minimum wage or below.

      The idea of the "working mom" being there is long gone - for one reason or another that labor pool has dried up. High school and college kids aren't motivated enough for the most part. I don't understand why people still (after welfare "reform") still seem to feel it is better to be on welfare or unemployment than working somewhere, but that seems to be the case.

      So, if the choice is someone that is nasty to the customers, unmotivated and barely speaks English or a machine ... the supermarket manager chooses wisely for the machine.

    3. Re:I am NaN by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Increasing wages doesn't help - often the only people that seem to be hired are immigrant labor that aren't all that interested in higher wages - they will do the same low-quality work for minimum wage or below.

      You gotta be shitting me. Of course the immigrants want more money. If they have enough English to work checkout and do their job well, then you should pay them more. It does help retention. Most of the people I've seen working checkout are citizens that've been here a while (with the exception of the one cute Russian woman). You may also be surprised to learn that checkout can pay up to $13/hr.

      The idea of the "working mom" being there is long gone - for one reason or another that labor pool has dried up. High school and college kids aren't motivated enough for the most part. I don't understand why people still (after welfare "reform") still seem to feel it is better to be on welfare or unemployment than working somewhere, but that seems to be the case.

      As a former college student, I found that internships paid better than supermarket jobs, but I would have taken a $7/hr job anywhere in a supermarket before doing food service again. Stocking shelves and checkout are way easier than cleaning up after the sunday breakfast crowd and trying not to gag on the smell of old eggs.

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  2. swap your loyalty cards... by t0mhannen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I seem to remember a hackers conference where it was suggested that everyone should bring along their loyalty cards, and then do a swap.

    If enough people did this, the databases would suddenly start to pick up on unexpected trends - customers whose profile suggested eating tofu and lettuce would suddenly be buying cigarettes and crisps etc.

    It seemed like rather an interesting idea to me...

  3. Whats the news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Welcome to the world of datawarehousing which has been going on for more than a decade. How is this news?

    1. Re:Whats the news? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Welcome to the world of datawarehousing which has been going on for more than a decade. How is this news?

      It's news because it's turning into a giant datawhorehousing these days...

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  4. No tracking necessary by SlashEdsDoYourJobs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...at least in some instances. For example:

    Second, Tesco can adjust its shelves to suit the profile of the local area, or even the time of day. Tesco in Brixton, an area of south London settled by immigrants from the Caribbean, sells plantains, a kind of savoury banana that can also be found for sale on market stalls outside. Tesco stores in central London do not, but are instead designed around selling sandwiches to office workers at lunchtime and then ready-meals to them in the evening.

    A database isn't needed for this. If the two Tescos were instead simply two unrelated corner shops, they'd still be selling different things. Local shops tend to do that - sell things that are in demand instead of things that are not in demand. No special database needed.

    It's useful for other stuff though, like the article says, customer profiles means you can send a specific set of discount vouchers to each customer based on their preferences. You could get a similar effect by shipping all vouchers to all customers, but I suspect this would be less effective as most people are more likely to use a couple of vouchers that they find interesting rather than look through a booklet of dozens of vouchers to find ones that are interesting to them.

    The dust jacket of a book that was to be sold in-store was recently altered because a Tesco buyer did not like it.

    That's a bit silly, really. It leads to bland stuff that has been toned down to not offend anybody. Sure, if it offends a whole bunch of people, it might make sense to alter it, but one person?

    1. Re:No tracking necessary by djmurdoch · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The dust jacket of a book that was to be sold in-store was recently altered because a Tesco buyer did not like it.

      That's a bit silly, really. It leads to bland stuff that has been toned down to not offend anybody. Sure, if it offends a whole bunch of people, it might make sense to alter it, but one person?


      I think you misread the article. The Tesco buyer is a Tesco employee who buys for Tesco. It wasn't a customer buying from Tesco who complained.

  5. So where's the problem? by ZPO · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This seems like the perfect implementation of an affinity program. I find the closing parapgraphs regarding the OFTs interest troubling.

    Tesco is a public company listening to customers, providing them with the goods and services they desire, and doing so for a fair price. Somehow to a group of people (and the OFT) that is improper. Since when did the "small shops" receive some type of right to exist and operate? If Tesco provided a better value for customers then that is where the customers will go.

    I did the majority of my grocery shopping in Tesco while living in the UK. The stores were good, and I could even get home delivery. There were a couple small corner shops on the way home from the tube station as well. If I needed a loaf of bread, carton of OJ, or a pack of smokes they were a good quick stop. If stocking up my pantry/fridge for the week I'd go to Tesco. The small shops didn't have the products I wanted to buy.

  6. Re:Tesco has changed Britain, but for the bettter? by s7uar7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The village where I live is about 3 miles from the nearest Tesco and, one by one, the small family-run shops are closing. But they themselves are partly to blame - apart from Saturday mornings, they're closed when I'm at home. I would buy my meat fresh the butchers, fruit and veg from the greengrocer, and fresh bread from the bakers, but they don't give me that choice. If they stayed open late, just by a couple of hours, one day a week they'd get my business. At the moment the only people able to shop there are pensioners, the unemployed, housewives and shift workers.

  7. From the article: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Tesco's power is causing resentment. Most openings of big new stores are greeted by fears for local shops and a campaign to keep Tesco out.

    Say what you want about how much nicer Tesco is than Wal-Mart, it seems like they face the same issues in the communities they are entering.

  8. Why? by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is the point of this? All it would do is screw up all the marketing research, resulting in them shoving more crap you don't care about down your throat whenever you go to buy groceries.

    Personally, I hope to hell they learn everything they can about me so that my shopping experience will go smoother and faster.

    1. Re:Why? by Ravatar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who says shopping should be anonymous? If they can service me better without a noticeable negative effect on my daily life, then more power to them.

    2. Re:Why? by gowen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Shopping must be anonymous. That's why I always go into my local store with a balaclava over my head. Anyone who doesn't is a slave to the corporate society, and insufficiently l33t.

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    3. Re:Why? by wasted+time · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Personally, I hope to hell they learn everything they can about me so that my shopping experience will go smoother and faster.

      Let's hope what they learn about you is true.
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  9. Re:What if Wal-Mart by Asprin · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Regretably, the fact that Wal-Mart doesn't use loyalty cards is one of the few admirable things about them.

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  10. Re:tracking devices by jrboatright · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The grocery chain (and tesco) really don't CARE about your identity. They are generally perfectly happy to give a loyalty card to a form made out to "Mickey Mouse" and an address of the local city office.

    What they want is the BUYING PATTERNS... and they get this IRRESPECTIVE of your identity. The fact that people who buy Milk on Tuesday, also buy Boneless turkey thighs on Saterday is interesting. Who those people are is not terribly interesting.

    This is why, chains with loyalty cards PRINT your discount coupons AT THE REGISTER as you go through. No wasting coupons mailing them to people who don't come in. No mailing cost, etc. And once again, your identity is of no consequence.

    Go get the discount card. Put a fake name and an address four blocks over. They DON'T CARE....