They didn't just "fix" a historical marker, they vandalized an irreplaceable historical ART OBJECT -- a hand painted sign painted more than 60 years ago by the architect Mary Colter.
Idiots
Fortunately, if I read TFA correctly, they used white out... which can probably be removed.
uhn. As a chemistry teacher, I thought that teaching the four elements important. And look, the four elements wasn't based on mythology and superstition, it was based on observation and an attempt to explain the world.
When I taught physics, I taught Aristotelian physics too. Given that this hammer and this feather fall at different speeds, what conclusion do _YOU_ draw? Clearly the concept that "heavy things fall faster" is not utterly ridiculous on face. It actually requires somewhat subtle thinkng and subtle experiment to refute Aristotle's physics and replace it with Newton's. We did that because Newton's was _much_ more powerful to make predcitions about what will happen in the world.
In teaching Biology, it is UTTERLY reasonable to teach ID. It then requires some subtle thinking and the results of experiment to posit that variation and selection processes result in a much more powerful ability to make predicitions about what will happen in the world than ID does.
It is _ALSO_ reasonable to posit that there is no good evidence, and no way to perform the experiment to decide first causes. As in physics where at some point physics falls apart and the cosmologists are left with "and thing something made it go boom." -- Biologists are left with "and some very complex things appear to have happened all at once, and the time lines for that are outside our ability to experiment."
At this point, a competant teacher says something on the lines of "However, science has little to say about first-causes. That is the arena of philosophy and religion. What we _can_ say is that at a human scale Newtonian, and at a Stellar scale Einsteinian physics works, and that at a cellular scale, and at the scale of species genetics, variation and selection _works._ Further a scientists has no business going.
This is an entirely APPROPRIATE discussion in a school science class, and teachers who chose not to have it are just freaking cowards.
Did the Louisiana law actually INTEND this, or was it their hope to sneak religion back into the science classroom? IMNSHO, that matters not. But _good_ science teachers cover all those bases.
Ok perhaps I'm being an idiot.
Certainly I am being an idiot. You are doubtless more informed and more intellegent than I am.
Could you please explain to me the evil inherent in the discussion in public schools that there is a school of thought, real PhD's with doctorates in biochemistry and such, who think that some explanation other than the utter random collision of molecules generated Albert Einstein and Bach?
If we are to not discuss intellegent design in schools, if the DEBATE about intellegent design is not to take place in school, should we ALSO prohibit discussion of Dr Fred Hoyle's concept of extraterrestrial biogenesis?
What is it about the discussion of alternatives that you see as evil here? Is it like Global Warming, such settled science that any discussion, any dissent should be rigourously punished and those leading the discussion _put down_?
-- I find myself confused by this position.
In general, the idea of granting legal fees to the winner is something that is a tricky balancing act for fairness.
Most of the time, the person filing the suit should not get their legal fees, because most of the time, if the outcome isn't enough to justify the fees, why did you file in the first place? Generally, if you need to sue someone, the harm should be worth the cost to the society at large (court costs) and worth the legal fees or why did you sue?
The idea of granting fees to a winning defender is more interesting, but suffers from the problem of unequal footing. If I want to sue Microsoft or Google or Ford, they can immediately pile up bazillions of dollars of legal fees in their defense. If I lose, I lose _everything_ for the mistake of suing them. I might even be in the right, but have lost because their lawyers were better, and I would be punished for the temerity of suing.
Therefore, in the case of successfully defending against a lawsuit, the standard in the US has long been that for the defender to get their fees, they need to prove that the lawsuit was more than just wrong, but was somehow evil, that it was frivolous, or harrassing, or otherwise created with the full knowledge that it was without basis in the first place.
In the case presented here, the district court, and the appeals court both said, "The owner of the IP address is a reasonable target to sue. If you find out that he wasn't the one who infringed, well and good, we dismiss the suit, but that didn't make it frivolous."
That's not a COMPLETELY ridiculous position. Of course, we know, and the defendant claims that the RIAA makes no effort to confirm identity before it sues, and that therefore, the suit was frivolous in that sense, but on face, the idea isn't insane, only their implementation of it.
The problem is, if we change the rules so that the successful defendant AUTOMATICALLY gets their legal fees, the precedent will not be restricted to RIAA cases, and the chilling effect on consumers may well be "bad"
Most of that badness can be eliminated by a system of caps on recovered fees similar to the cap on legal fees for lawyers working on social security disability cases, but that requires legislation, and should not be put into place by an activist judiciary.
Try Eric Flint's series of analytical articles on the relationship between copyright, DRM and the book market in his column in Jim Baen's Universe magazine on line ( http://www.baens-universe.com/ ) while the general magazine requires a subscription to read more than half the story, Eric's columns are free-and-open.
You might start here: http://baens-universe.com/authors/Eric_Flint -- start at the bottom and work up. By the time you're done you'll have a pretty complete education on the relationship of copyright, DRM and the book marketplace WITH NUMBERS.
Me too. I can't type with my thumbs, I get "carpal thumbal" -- it's horrific. This is light enough, cool enough, the screen is big enough, I put xubuntu on it and compiz fusion and it does _everything_ I need to do away from the office, and including the power cord and the portable dvd player bag I drop it in, it's less than a kilo.
I've wanted a umpc for years but could never afford one.
Look, it should be the decision of content creators if THEY want to encumber their content with DRM, not some anti-DRM cabel at W3C.
_I_ may believe that encumbering a product with DRM is stupid. You may believe that. But that ought to be the choice of the content creator, not the standards body. The market will decide if the content creators decision is wrong.
You do _not_ have a "right" to a non-drm encumbered version of my creative work just because you think you do. I can choose to sell you whatever rights I choose to. You can choose if you want to deal with that, or if you want to refuse to buy my encumbered content.
Nokia, rightly, points out that for a standards body to attempt to standardize on a mechanism with will not ALLOW DRM is just plain silly. The standards body will be ignored, and content creators, and the market, will continue to do what they feel they must.
The market is pushing for unencumbered files. Many creators are going along with that. But surely it is the right of the creator to decide?
http://www.intergalacticmedicineshow.com/ = Orson Scott Card's new on-line sf e-zine. $2.50 an issue, with an OSC story in every issue and a bunch of stories by newbies.
You write: "I don't believe in copyright as I don't see how anyone can use Congress and the courts to enforce income on non-continuing work. It is ridiculous."
Are you insane, or merely oblivious? A writer works hard to complete a story or a novel or a picture. A pubisher takes that and produces a book. The publisher sells the physical object for whatever price they can for years and years and years. If there were no copyright, what obligation would the publisher have to pay the writer or the artist any income at all from the on-going sale of the object they were responsible for?
A writer produces an article for a magazein, the magazine publishes it, and pays the writer for "first north american rights." -- fine and good. Then, at the end of the year they produce a book of the "best articles this year" - which makes money. Do not the authors deserve income? Is not the legislation of this copyright?
Without copyright, artists and writers would be reduced to patronage. You would not like that.
1) these people came into the school board as "stealth" candidates, expect to see them handed their papers next year
2) They have NO POWER to set curriculems in public schools This is an _advisory_ curriculem. Nothing more. VERY FEW school districts will make any changes.
The Kansas School board curriculem guidlines are not binding.
Each school district in Kansas makes its own curriculem decisions The statewide testing is not required for graduation.
This is written into the state constitution. The state school board can not impose curriculems, textbooks, or much of anything else.
Therefore, the actual IMPACT of this will be limited to extremely conservative rural schools. Topeka, Wichita, Lawrence, Manhattan, Salina and Kansas City area schools have already rejected any changes.
Because they didn't offer that. They would be happy to if you're prepared to pay what that costs. We do. For 19.95 a month, you get filtered network connections, no ability to run a server dynamic IP addresses, and capped bandwidth. For 99.95 a month you get static ip's, no filters, and the ability to run anything you want. "Real" internet connections. SBC delivers exactly what you contracted for. Why is this upsetting to you. You want cheap, you get cheap, you want full pipes, you PAY for full pipes. DUH. That copper costs money, the electricity to run the system, the techs in the trucks, the poles, etc etc etc all cost money.
When you have high-bandwidth wireless freely serving everyone in Osage County Kansas, then get back to me.
WHich tells us the exciting news that Opportunity has run out of marsberrys.
They've been trailing off for a while, and now, seem gone. Which implies, at least, that they're encountering the edge of the water, and will see new geology now.
Portions of the route DARPA set the speed limit as low as 5 mph. The highest speed limit on the course was 45 mph. The route included very very narrow passages, twisty bits along the side of mountains with 100 foot droppoffs and no guard rails, chunks with no roads at all going through gullies, tunnels with no GPS feeds where you have to navigate inertially and with sensors.
as an object drops into a lower orbit they orbit in fewer seconds. Venus goes around the sun in fewer days than earth does, as does mercury...
HOWEVER, the linear velocity of an inner orbit is slower than the linear velocity of an outer orbit.
So, to go in, you slow down. Which results in dropping to a lower orbit, which results in your pulling out "in front" of the object you're seperating from leaving it both "above" you and "behind" you.
So, accelerating spinwise is out, and slower.
Accelerating anti-spinwise is in, and faster
let us not get into what happens when you accelerate OUT or IN....
If you have owned your house in the metro area for as long as 3 to 5 years, you probebly can buy a home in MY town for cash out of your profits.
then, on your reduced salary, you will have a better life style, safter children, lower stress, less noise, less pollution. As long as the school district is excellent, your kids will make new friends.
I have visited cities. I can not understand why ANYONE stays there.
but NASA does waste billions of dollars. NASA took a man rated saturn five and laid it on its side as a lawn orniment rather than distract the public from the shuttle. NASA hasn't actually BUILT a new manned spacecraft in decades. They have funded, literally billions of dollars of powerpoint presentations, but not bent any tin.
What the private companies are doing is what NASA _could_ do if they chose to. Which they do not. Instead, they produce paper.:(
too bad.:-( I notice that now you can interconvert tesco clubcard points with BA Airline miles.... If Walmart or Food4Less offered that with a US carrier I'ld be on it in a moment...
The grocery chain (and tesco) really don't CARE about your identity. They are generally perfectly happy to give a loyalty card to a form made out to "Mickey Mouse" and an address of the local city office.
What they want is the BUYING PATTERNS... and they get this IRRESPECTIVE of your identity. The fact that people who buy Milk on Tuesday, also buy Boneless turkey thighs on Saterday is interesting. Who those people are is not terribly interesting.
This is why, chains with loyalty cards PRINT your discount coupons AT THE REGISTER as you go through. No wasting coupons mailing them to people who don't come in. No mailing cost, etc. And once again, your identity is of no consequence.
Go get the discount card. Put a fake name and an address four blocks over. They DON'T CARE....
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It's important to actually READ TFA.
They didn't just "fix" a historical marker, they vandalized an irreplaceable historical ART OBJECT -- a hand painted sign painted more than 60 years ago by the architect Mary Colter.
Idiots
Fortunately, if I read TFA correctly, they used white out... which can probably be removed.
Re rollable water container...
pulled at 3 mph - standardwalking speed over flat but unimproved dirt roads, this puppy lasts for how many hours before the wall springs a leak?
People carry water containers for a REASON.
Carts are multi-purpose. Single taskers suck.
Feb 2007 - 29 cents. Today - 4 cents. Vaporware success factor: -7
uhn. As a chemistry teacher, I thought that teaching the four elements important. And look, the four elements wasn't based on mythology and superstition, it was based on observation and an attempt to explain the world.
When I taught physics, I taught Aristotelian physics too. Given that this hammer and this feather fall at different speeds, what conclusion do _YOU_ draw? Clearly the concept that "heavy things fall faster" is not utterly ridiculous on face. It actually requires somewhat subtle thinkng and subtle experiment to refute Aristotle's physics and replace it with Newton's. We did that because Newton's was _much_ more powerful to make predcitions about what will happen in the world.
In teaching Biology, it is UTTERLY reasonable to teach ID. It then requires some subtle thinking and the results of experiment to posit that variation and selection processes result in a much more powerful ability to make predicitions about what will happen in the world than ID does.
It is _ALSO_ reasonable to posit that there is no good evidence, and no way to perform the experiment to decide first causes. As in physics where at some point physics falls apart and the cosmologists are left with "and thing something made it go boom." -- Biologists are left with "and some very complex things appear to have happened all at once, and the time lines for that are outside our ability to experiment."
At this point, a competant teacher says something on the lines of "However, science has little to say about first-causes. That is the arena of philosophy and religion. What we _can_ say is that at a human scale Newtonian, and at a Stellar scale Einsteinian physics works, and that at a cellular scale, and at the scale of species genetics, variation and selection _works._ Further a scientists has no business going.
This is an entirely APPROPRIATE discussion in a school science class, and teachers who chose not to have it are just freaking cowards.
Did the Louisiana law actually INTEND this, or was it their hope to sneak religion back into the science classroom? IMNSHO, that matters not. But _good_ science teachers cover all those bases.
Ok perhaps I'm being an idiot. Certainly I am being an idiot. You are doubtless more informed and more intellegent than I am. Could you please explain to me the evil inherent in the discussion in public schools that there is a school of thought, real PhD's with doctorates in biochemistry and such, who think that some explanation other than the utter random collision of molecules generated Albert Einstein and Bach? If we are to not discuss intellegent design in schools, if the DEBATE about intellegent design is not to take place in school, should we ALSO prohibit discussion of Dr Fred Hoyle's concept of extraterrestrial biogenesis? What is it about the discussion of alternatives that you see as evil here? Is it like Global Warming, such settled science that any discussion, any dissent should be rigourously punished and those leading the discussion _put down_? -- I find myself confused by this position.
In general, the idea of granting legal fees to the winner is something that is a tricky balancing act for fairness.
Most of the time, the person filing the suit should not get their legal fees, because most of the time, if the outcome isn't enough to justify the fees, why did you file in the first place? Generally, if you need to sue someone, the harm should be worth the cost to the society at large (court costs) and worth the legal fees or why did you sue?
The idea of granting fees to a winning defender is more interesting, but suffers from the problem of unequal footing. If I want to sue Microsoft or Google or Ford, they can immediately pile up bazillions of dollars of legal fees in their defense. If I lose, I lose _everything_ for the mistake of suing them. I might even be in the right, but have lost because their lawyers were better, and I would be punished for the temerity of suing.
Therefore, in the case of successfully defending against a lawsuit, the standard in the US has long been that for the defender to get their fees, they need to prove that the lawsuit was more than just wrong, but was somehow evil, that it was frivolous, or harrassing, or otherwise created with the full knowledge that it was without basis in the first place.
In the case presented here, the district court, and the appeals court both said, "The owner of the IP address is a reasonable target to sue. If you find out that he wasn't the one who infringed, well and good, we dismiss the suit, but that didn't make it frivolous."
That's not a COMPLETELY ridiculous position. Of course, we know, and the defendant claims that the RIAA makes no effort to confirm identity before it sues, and that therefore, the suit was frivolous in that sense, but on face, the idea isn't insane, only their implementation of it.
The problem is, if we change the rules so that the successful defendant AUTOMATICALLY gets their legal fees, the precedent will not be restricted to RIAA cases, and the chilling effect on consumers may well be "bad"
Most of that badness can be eliminated by a system of caps on recovered fees similar to the cap on legal fees for lawyers working on social security disability cases, but that requires legislation, and should not be put into place by an activist judiciary.
Try Eric Flint's series of analytical articles on the relationship between copyright, DRM and the book market in his column in Jim Baen's Universe magazine on line ( http://www.baens-universe.com/ ) while the general magazine requires a subscription to read more than half the story, Eric's columns are free-and-open.
You might start here: http://baens-universe.com/authors/Eric_Flint -- start at the bottom and work up. By the time you're done you'll have a pretty complete education on the relationship of copyright, DRM and the book marketplace WITH NUMBERS.
Have a good time. Come back when you're done.
Me too. I can't type with my thumbs, I get "carpal thumbal" -- it's horrific. This is light enough, cool enough, the screen is big enough, I put xubuntu on it and compiz fusion and it does _everything_ I need to do away from the office, and including the power cord and the portable dvd player bag I drop it in, it's less than a kilo.
I've wanted a umpc for years but could never afford one.
Now I can.
Look, it should be the decision of content creators if THEY want to encumber their content with DRM, not some anti-DRM cabel at W3C.
_I_ may believe that encumbering a product with DRM is stupid. You may believe that. But that ought to be the choice of the content creator, not the standards body. The market will decide if the content creators decision is wrong.
You do _not_ have a "right" to a non-drm encumbered version of my creative work just because you think you do. I can choose to sell you whatever rights I choose to. You can choose if you want to deal with that, or if you want to refuse to buy my encumbered content.
Nokia, rightly, points out that for a standards body to attempt to standardize on a mechanism with will not ALLOW DRM is just plain silly. The standards body will be ignored, and content creators, and the market, will continue to do what they feel they must.
The market is pushing for unencumbered files. Many creators are going along with that. But surely it is the right of the creator to decide?
Selection is high quality sf and "hard" fantasy.
With that understanding, having New York Times bestselling authors books available for free with no DRM is "exciting".
But then, when asked why they don't put DRM on their e-books, their answer is interesting. "First, we don't assume our readers are theives."
And more authors are signing on, big names. Check out Jim Baen's Universe ( http://www.baensuniverse.com/ )
http://www.intergalacticmedicineshow.com/ = Orson Scott Card's new on-line sf e-zine.
$2.50 an issue, with an OSC story in every issue and a bunch of stories by newbies.
so, yeah OSC is a publisher.
1971. The school district had bought a 360, and the 1130 was pushed over into the corner and made available to the high school students.
It was _ours_. I remember running my hands over the console switches and going MINE MINE MINE...
1 meg hdd
God I loved that machine.
You write: "I don't believe in copyright as I don't see how anyone can use Congress and the courts to enforce income on non-continuing work. It is ridiculous."
Are you insane, or merely oblivious? A writer works hard to complete a story or a novel or a picture. A pubisher takes that and produces a book. The publisher sells the physical object for whatever price they can for years and years and years. If there were no copyright, what obligation would the publisher have to pay the writer or the artist any income at all from the on-going sale of the object they were responsible for?
A writer produces an article for a magazein, the magazine publishes it, and pays the writer for "first north american rights." -- fine and good. Then, at the end of the year they produce a book of the "best articles this year" - which makes money. Do not the authors deserve income? Is not the legislation of this copyright?
Without copyright, artists and writers would be reduced to patronage. You would not like that.
Rick
Arrrgghhh. And furthermore Arrrgghhhhh.
1) these people came into the school board as "stealth" candidates, expect to see them handed their papers next year
2) They have NO POWER to set curriculems in public schools This is an _advisory_ curriculem. Nothing more. VERY FEW school districts will make any changes.
The Kansas School board curriculem guidlines are not binding.
Each school district in Kansas makes its own curriculem decisions The statewide testing is not required for graduation.
This is written into the state constitution. The state school board can not impose curriculems, textbooks, or much of anything else.
Therefore, the actual IMPACT of this will be limited to extremely conservative rural schools. Topeka, Wichita, Lawrence, Manhattan, Salina and Kansas City area schools have already rejected any changes.
It's still embarassing tho.
So, Joe Autor writes a cool new book.
He sells publication rights to Acme Giant Publishing for oh say $3000.
Acme Giant publishing prints 1000 books, sells some of them, and pulps the rest.
One year and a day later, the book falls out of copyright, and Acme prints 10,000 copies and sells them, and Joe Author gets nothing.
What is wrong with this picture?
Because they didn't offer that. They would be happy to if you're prepared to pay what that costs. We do. For 19.95 a month, you get filtered network connections, no ability to run a server dynamic IP addresses, and capped bandwidth. For 99.95 a month you get static ip's, no filters, and the ability to run anything you want. "Real" internet connections. SBC delivers exactly what you contracted for. Why is this upsetting to you. You want cheap, you get cheap, you want full pipes, you PAY for full pipes. DUH. That copper costs money, the electricity to run the system, the techs in the trucks, the poles, etc etc etc all cost money.
When you have high-bandwidth wireless freely serving everyone in Osage County Kansas, then get back to me.
Rick
WHich tells us the exciting news that Opportunity has run out of marsberrys.
They've been trailing off for a while, and now, seem gone. Which implies, at least, that they're encountering the edge of the water, and will see new geology now.
Cool!!!
Take a look at the route on the darpa web site.
Portions of the route DARPA set the speed limit as low as 5 mph. The highest speed limit on the course was 45 mph. The route included very very narrow passages, twisty bits along the side of mountains with 100 foot droppoffs and no guard rails, chunks with no roads at all going through gullies, tunnels with no GPS feeds where you have to navigate inertially and with sensors.
This was _hard_
Orbital mechanics is "not obvious."
as an object drops into a lower orbit they orbit in fewer seconds. Venus goes around the sun in fewer days than earth does, as does mercury...
HOWEVER, the linear velocity of an inner orbit is slower than the linear velocity of an outer orbit.
So, to go in, you slow down. Which results in dropping to a lower orbit, which results in your pulling out "in front" of the object you're seperating from leaving it both "above" you and "behind" you.
So, accelerating spinwise is out, and slower.
Accelerating anti-spinwise is in, and faster
let us not get into what happens when you accelerate OUT or IN....
If you have owned your house in the metro area for as long as 3 to 5 years, you probebly can buy a home in MY town for cash out of your profits.
then, on your reduced salary, you will have a better life style, safter children, lower stress, less noise, less pollution. As long as the school district is excellent, your kids will make new friends.
I have visited cities. I can not understand why ANYONE stays there.
but NASA does waste billions of dollars. NASA took a man rated saturn five and laid it on its side as a lawn orniment rather than distract the public from the shuttle. NASA hasn't actually BUILT a new manned spacecraft in decades. They have funded, literally billions of dollars of powerpoint presentations, but not bent any tin.
:(
What the private companies are doing is what NASA _could_ do if they chose to. Which they do not. Instead, they produce paper.
Withan H-2a rocket built by the Japanese NASDA, from their dedicated launch facility....
1 213.html
i es_e.html
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/japan_h2a_02
for one example of the japanese launching an australian sat back in '02....
or http://www.nasda.go.jp/lib/nasda-news/1997/02/ser
this series for a history of NASDA rocket development.
too bad. :-( I notice that now you can interconvert tesco clubcard points with BA Airline miles.... If Walmart or Food4Less offered that with a US carrier I'ld be on it in a moment...
The grocery chain (and tesco) really don't CARE about your identity. They are generally perfectly happy to give a loyalty card to a form made out to "Mickey Mouse" and an address of the local city office.
What they want is the BUYING PATTERNS... and they get this IRRESPECTIVE of your identity. The fact that people who buy Milk on Tuesday, also buy Boneless turkey thighs on Saterday is interesting. Who those people are is not terribly interesting.
This is why, chains with loyalty cards PRINT your discount coupons AT THE REGISTER as you go through. No wasting coupons mailing them to people who don't come in. No mailing cost, etc. And once again, your identity is of no consequence.
Go get the discount card. Put a fake name and an address four blocks over. They DON'T CARE....