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Can a Customer Loyalty Database Change a Society?

Retrospeak writes "'Organisations that continue to put the brand at their epicentre and pay only lip service to the notion that the customer is king, will fail. It's just a matter of time.' So says business strategist Clive Humby. His marketing company, Dunnhumby handles the loyalty scheme database for Tesco, the third-largest retailer in world and the biggest retailer in Britain. This fact combined with a strong customer loyalty program means they may have one of the largest databases in the world. The Economist goes on to state that Britain itself is being changed by the secondary effects of Tesco's massive customer-driven database." From the article: "Some of these changes are small. The dust jacket of a book that was to be sold in-store was recently altered because a Tesco buyer did not like it. Others are more fundamental. Before the Clubcard came along, the largest panels that suppliers could use consisted of around 20,000 people. But suppliers can now pay for access to the database and many just rely on Tesco."

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  1. I am NaN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As long as customer databases are mistaken for customer service, it'll certainly not change anything for the better.

    1. Re:I am NaN by Smallpond · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most businesses are moving away from interpersonal service to self-serve backed by monitoring. Look at self-serve gas, supermarket checkout, ATMs. I think ATMs are a win, since they reduce lines. In supermarkets I find a human if I'm in a hurry, tho. Databases are replacing the "Mr. Whipple" model of the manager who knows his customers. Now its the database miners who know their clients. Its just automation moving higher up the chain.

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      "I have people skills! I am good at dealing with people! Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?"

    2. Re:I am NaN by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I am usually OK with self serve gas, but pumping gas is a very small number of operations. I am not happy with self-serve checkout because the machines are designed to work with dumb, inexperienced people and in my experience, a poorly calibrated scanner. Even with good scanner, my experience is better with using actual check-out people is that they ring through a stack of items without the hinderance of the unresponsive and demanding computer, maybe at twice the speed. What it tells me is that stores are too cheap to hire minimum wage workers, and those stores are willing to stick me with an expensive garbage machine to save themselves a few bucks at my expense in time and frustration. I would much rather they hire more cashiers and other service people, not less.

      Currently, ATMs aren't about shortening lines but getting cash at convenience, putting machines in where there isn't space to put a mini-branch, and for customers to get their money at any hour.

      Banks did try getting ATMs to reduce the amount of manpower needed to run the bank, but as it turns out, the number of bank tellers has not decreased, and ATMs are very expensive to maintain. Bankers basically bought them just to save themselves money, but thankfully that backfired.

    3. Re:I am NaN by cdrguru · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Well, those minimum-wage clerks in stores are getting harder and harder to come by. What you would like it a motivated, English-speaking person that is nice to the customers. What they have settled for in the past as a unmotivated, English-as-an-afterthought, person that feels they just aren't paid enough to be nice.

      Increasing wages doesn't help - often the only people that seem to be hired are immigrant labor that aren't all that interested in higher wages - they will do the same low-quality work for minimum wage or below.

      The idea of the "working mom" being there is long gone - for one reason or another that labor pool has dried up. High school and college kids aren't motivated enough for the most part. I don't understand why people still (after welfare "reform") still seem to feel it is better to be on welfare or unemployment than working somewhere, but that seems to be the case.

      So, if the choice is someone that is nasty to the customers, unmotivated and barely speaks English or a machine ... the supermarket manager chooses wisely for the machine.

    4. Re:I am NaN by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Increasing wages doesn't help - often the only people that seem to be hired are immigrant labor that aren't all that interested in higher wages - they will do the same low-quality work for minimum wage or below.

      You gotta be shitting me. Of course the immigrants want more money. If they have enough English to work checkout and do their job well, then you should pay them more. It does help retention. Most of the people I've seen working checkout are citizens that've been here a while (with the exception of the one cute Russian woman). You may also be surprised to learn that checkout can pay up to $13/hr.

      The idea of the "working mom" being there is long gone - for one reason or another that labor pool has dried up. High school and college kids aren't motivated enough for the most part. I don't understand why people still (after welfare "reform") still seem to feel it is better to be on welfare or unemployment than working somewhere, but that seems to be the case.

      As a former college student, I found that internships paid better than supermarket jobs, but I would have taken a $7/hr job anywhere in a supermarket before doing food service again. Stocking shelves and checkout are way easier than cleaning up after the sunday breakfast crowd and trying not to gag on the smell of old eggs.

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  2. Wegmans v. General Motors by bgfay · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I live in Central New York where we have the pleasure of shopping at Wegmans Supermarkets. Wegmans uses a shopping card, is very receptive to even the smallest suggestions from customers, and goes out of their way to satisfy all customers. They track purchases carefully and have a giant database from which they mark trends and make changes. To put it simply, they rely less on the brand name and more on continuously improving and changing. For this reason, they have sent at least three different supermarket chains in the area scrambling or out of business. Wal-Mart hasn't even made much headway because Wegmans is so good.

    Then there's GM. This dinosaur doesn't give people what they want--a well-built car that lasts a long time and sells for a reasonable price. Simply put, they don't get it. They believe that they have always been and that they have always done things the one true way.

    Which company will grow?

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    1. Re:Wegmans v. General Motors by newdamage · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I lived in Tallahassee for a year, and I can say from personal experience that Publix rocks. Now that I'm back in the midwest I really miss it. They had amazing prices, really friendly employees, and just outstanding service. Sure it was cheaper to go to Walmart, but Walmart didn't have the selection or quality of food that Publix did.

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    2. Re:Wegmans v. General Motors by coflow · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wegman's recently moved into my old neighborhood, and I can attest it is one of the most well-run companies I've seen. The stores are huge, the selection is tremendous, and the focus on building a positive customer experience is intense.

      Wegman's seems to be a little more serious about their customer database and the quality of data it contains. My mother-in-law tried to use my wife's Wegman's loyalty card, and they checked her ID and wouldn't let her use it. I would really like to see the type of things they're doing with their DW.

    3. Re:Wegmans v. General Motors by archen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I shop at Wegmans quite often but I actually stopped using my shoppng card. I assumed you needed it to get "regular prices" (ala price chopper) but on an average $40 worth of groceries I usually save about 24 cents. If they'd like to collect all of this data, they should at least give us an incentive for us giving it to them.

    4. Re:Wegmans v. General Motors by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Obviously you don't know what people want in a car either. The biggest factor you forgot is *style*. GM makes ugly and inoffensive cars, but no beautiful cars.

      The fact that the Toyota absolutely NAILED the American hip-hop submarket with their boxy Scion while sitting in their offices 10,000 miles away ought to scare the living shit out of GM. They've managed to figure out how to sell 10 year old styling to old people (and not in Korea either) but that's about it.

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    5. Re:Wegmans v. General Motors by rkcarter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I was just noticing the difference between some stores -- I notice a lot of cashiers these days ask you "did you find everything you were looking for?" I used to auto-answer "yes" (like "have a nice day") but now I answer honestly. I have discovered that approximately half the people just sort of smile and say "oh sorry" or ignore me when I say I didn't find some particular thing; the other half actually have had people go back and double-check, or take down the info as a suggestion, etc. It varies but it's helping me decide where to re-shop.

  3. swap your loyalty cards... by t0mhannen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I seem to remember a hackers conference where it was suggested that everyone should bring along their loyalty cards, and then do a swap.

    If enough people did this, the databases would suddenly start to pick up on unexpected trends - customers whose profile suggested eating tofu and lettuce would suddenly be buying cigarettes and crisps etc.

    It seemed like rather an interesting idea to me...

    1. Re:swap your loyalty cards... by Forbman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...or, you happen to move from one area where one chain of stores is owned by the same parent corporation as a different chain where you're moving to.

      I make it a point to use my Dominick's card whenif I happen to shop at a Safeway. I don't care one bit that it's linked to my old address in Illinois, same with my Jewel/Osco card when buying chocochip cookies at Albertson's.

      I guess I try to keep my shopping rather local if I can, even if it costs more and the service seems to be worse (yeah, right) than the big chains.

      Do I know the owners of Roth's Grocery stores in Oregon? Nope. But I'd rather do that then help make Safeway, Wal-Mart or Alberton's any richer than I have to. Yes, they employ people in the area, but so does Roth's, so that argument is moot to me.

  4. No tracking necessary by SlashEdsDoYourJobs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...at least in some instances. For example:

    Second, Tesco can adjust its shelves to suit the profile of the local area, or even the time of day. Tesco in Brixton, an area of south London settled by immigrants from the Caribbean, sells plantains, a kind of savoury banana that can also be found for sale on market stalls outside. Tesco stores in central London do not, but are instead designed around selling sandwiches to office workers at lunchtime and then ready-meals to them in the evening.

    A database isn't needed for this. If the two Tescos were instead simply two unrelated corner shops, they'd still be selling different things. Local shops tend to do that - sell things that are in demand instead of things that are not in demand. No special database needed.

    It's useful for other stuff though, like the article says, customer profiles means you can send a specific set of discount vouchers to each customer based on their preferences. You could get a similar effect by shipping all vouchers to all customers, but I suspect this would be less effective as most people are more likely to use a couple of vouchers that they find interesting rather than look through a booklet of dozens of vouchers to find ones that are interesting to them.

    The dust jacket of a book that was to be sold in-store was recently altered because a Tesco buyer did not like it.

    That's a bit silly, really. It leads to bland stuff that has been toned down to not offend anybody. Sure, if it offends a whole bunch of people, it might make sense to alter it, but one person?

    1. Re:No tracking necessary by djmurdoch · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The dust jacket of a book that was to be sold in-store was recently altered because a Tesco buyer did not like it.

      That's a bit silly, really. It leads to bland stuff that has been toned down to not offend anybody. Sure, if it offends a whole bunch of people, it might make sense to alter it, but one person?


      I think you misread the article. The Tesco buyer is a Tesco employee who buys for Tesco. It wasn't a customer buying from Tesco who complained.

    2. Re:No tracking necessary by syphoon · · Score: 2, Informative

      By "Tesco buyer", they don't mean a normal retailer customer, but one of the Tesco employees who is responsible for buying stock to put on Tesco shelves. If they don't like the book cover, then it's not going to go on Tesco shelves.

  5. Tesco has changed Britain, but for the bettter? by fruey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The local Tesco store near where my parents live has killed most local commerce and the next town (5 miles away) suffered greatly until a supermarket was given permission to build a large store on a town centre site there.

    It is more correct to say that the hypermarket has changed Britain, but Tesco happens to be by far the most successful example. IIRC the statistic is that 1 out of every 3 GBP spent in the UK is spent at Tesco.

    In their defense they say "Tesco tries to see off criticism by arguing that it gives customers what they want and keeps staff happy." You could easily turn that around any say that they reinforce customer habits by offering them offers on their usually consumed high value items. You rarely see offers on bread, milk and sugar. Rather more on your favourite desserts and higher margin goods. By suggesting that others purchased Turkey Twizzlers with Claret and then offering other Turkey Twizzlers offers on Claret rather sounds like moving everyone towards a common denominator to me. But one thing is for sure, it sure sells product! So if your goal is to survive in the continual drive to make consumers consume more and more (and at credit too - with the Tesco credit card, Tesco loans and with a Tesco banking service) then you're onto a winner by being just like Tesco.

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    1. Re:Tesco has changed Britain, but for the bettter? by s7uar7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The village where I live is about 3 miles from the nearest Tesco and, one by one, the small family-run shops are closing. But they themselves are partly to blame - apart from Saturday mornings, they're closed when I'm at home. I would buy my meat fresh the butchers, fruit and veg from the greengrocer, and fresh bread from the bakers, but they don't give me that choice. If they stayed open late, just by a couple of hours, one day a week they'd get my business. At the moment the only people able to shop there are pensioners, the unemployed, housewives and shift workers.

  6. So where's the problem? by ZPO · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This seems like the perfect implementation of an affinity program. I find the closing parapgraphs regarding the OFTs interest troubling.

    Tesco is a public company listening to customers, providing them with the goods and services they desire, and doing so for a fair price. Somehow to a group of people (and the OFT) that is improper. Since when did the "small shops" receive some type of right to exist and operate? If Tesco provided a better value for customers then that is where the customers will go.

    I did the majority of my grocery shopping in Tesco while living in the UK. The stores were good, and I could even get home delivery. There were a couple small corner shops on the way home from the tube station as well. If I needed a loaf of bread, carton of OJ, or a pack of smokes they were a good quick stop. If stocking up my pantry/fridge for the week I'd go to Tesco. The small shops didn't have the products I wanted to buy.

  7. retail marketeer's wet dream by ch-chuck · · Score: 4, Funny

    a loyalty card with rfid and customers with remote control implants.

    "Smedley, there's a customer in aisle 7 with a weakness for cream filled donuts - jerk him over to aisle 3 quick!"

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  8. Tesco = Advanced Commercial Democracy by G4from128k · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In essence, isn't the Tesco loyalty card system like a sophisticated representative democratic process? People "register to vote" using a loyalty card, vote by buying goods, and Tesco watches the results of the "election." Tesco knows who buys what and can thus go to suppliers and argue for changes that are more likely to satisfy customers.

    Although non-loyalty card users still count at Tesco (all retail is a type of democracy in that people vote with their pocketbooks), I'm sure that the product choices of loyalty card users are far more influential with Tesco and thus with suppliers. In that regard not having a loyalty card is like not having a voter registration card.

    Some might argue that voting should be anonymous, like political democratic elections, and perhaps it should. Yet non-anonymous voting provides valuable information -- e.g., Tesco might notice that, for example, people who buy lots of hot soups in the winter don't buy high-sugar fizzy drinks in the summer or some other correlation that is only observable if you can know that shopping basket A and basket B (6 months later) represent the same voter. These long-term correlations aid in both store assortment planning and forecasting.

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  9. Re:Whats the news? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Welcome to the world of datawarehousing which has been going on for more than a decade. How is this news?

    It's news because it's turning into a giant datawhorehousing these days...

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  10. Re:British Society Tracking Database by forgotmyotheraccount · · Score: 5, Informative

    Tesco use a Teradata data warehouse analytical/relationship marketing. They're a division of NCR.

  11. Why? by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is the point of this? All it would do is screw up all the marketing research, resulting in them shoving more crap you don't care about down your throat whenever you go to buy groceries.

    Personally, I hope to hell they learn everything they can about me so that my shopping experience will go smoother and faster.

    1. Re:Why? by Ravatar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who says shopping should be anonymous? If they can service me better without a noticeable negative effect on my daily life, then more power to them.

    2. Re:Why? by gowen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Shopping must be anonymous. That's why I always go into my local store with a balaclava over my head. Anyone who doesn't is a slave to the corporate society, and insufficiently l33t.

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    3. Re:Why? by wasted+time · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Personally, I hope to hell they learn everything they can about me so that my shopping experience will go smoother and faster.

      Let's hope what they learn about you is true.
      http://www.nocards.org/news/index.shtml#fire

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      Arson charges against firefighter dropped after another confesses

      We previously reported that a fireman in Everett, Washington had been arrested for setting a fire in his own home. The fire was reported to have been started using a "firestarter" which, although charred, still had a "Safeway Supermarket" label attached. Police used Safeway club card records from the family to show there had been a purchase of the firestarters in July, and a police dog that was asked to track the arsonist repeatedly went from the fire to the homes front door.

      This week the charges were dropped after "another person accepted responsibility for the fire" according to news reports. At least one media outlet, KIRO TV, is reporting that his wife was the one who came forward.

      In our original article on this we noted:

      Retail stores attempt to portray privacy fears as being groundless but the fact remains that this data is accessible, and will continue to be so for years. And even though this data "might" help law enforcement officers, the potential is equally large to implicate people who have committed no crime.

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  12. By driving me crazy? yes by t_allardyce · · Score: 4, Funny

    Every time i go to Tesco, without fail, they ask me the same question "do you have a tesco clubcard?"! Do i have a fucking tesco club card? do i?? if i had a tesco club card would i be standing there holding out my money without it? would i actually forget to take it out? I know they are trained to do this, they have no choice and i know by the tone of their voice they are fucking fed up of saying it more than im fed up of hearing it, in fact i feel sorry for them - to have to say the same phrase 100's of times a day while listening to people saying it all around you must be hell. Theres hardly any other talking going on at the check-out, the only thing you hear is the total and do you have a mother fucking tesco club card. Sometimes I wonder, should i just get a tesco club card to make them shut up? even having to pull an extra thing out of my wallet every time would make up for it! If getting a card ment just being handed one and not having to fill anything in then i probably would, but it probably takes a form a mile long. If tesco want me to use a card then its going to have to be anonymous and not require me doing anything.

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  13. Why store-level aggregate data isn't good enough by G4from128k · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is a large assumption here, which is that only the customer who was issued the card is the person that ever uses the card, which is not true. Especially when said cards have incentives like "points" that can be accumulated to obtain free items, or a straight discount for using the card. Such card "borrowing" will skew the data in the database, since the computer assumes that the card equals the person, which is not necessarily true.

    Card borrowing does skew the data, but how high is the actual frequency of this practice? Moreover, I'd bet that many card borrowings are between demographically similar people. If one 22 year old college student borrows a card from another 22 year old college student, then the effect on Tesco is minimal. Yes, card borrowing affects the data, but I doubt it ruins it.

    You could argue that Tesco's buying policy really is only concerned with the aggregate information anyway since they won't make a purchase decision based on a single cardholder, and this aggregate is unchanged by card "swapping". But then why do you need to track individual information?

    Aggregate data only gets a company so far. Consider the problem deciding where to put a new store. The only way Tesco can accurately do this is by cross comparing the census records for the proposed area with Tesco's own data on who buys how much and from what distances at its existing stores. If Tesco knows that people drive 20 miles to reach a Tesco, then its less likely to put another Tesco within 10 miles of an existing one. And if Tesco sees certain demographic groups is a new area, they can estimate likely sales and the best product assortment by studying the sales habits of those demographic groups within its loyalty card program. Breaking down the customer base by distance to store, types of goods bought, ages, income, etc. all help the company do a much better job of store siting, merchandise assortment, forecasting, etc.

    Yes, only aggregate data is useful. But the loyalty card program lets Tesco aggregate data in new ways -- aggregate by customer age, gender, distance to store, household income, or tendencies to buy products. Store-level aggregate data or even simple market basket analysis isn't going to give as good an insight into the relationships between customer categories and shopping habits.

    The answer is because they can. However the whole concept of "keeping a file" on someone is rather macabre. I have access to my criminal record, my medical record and my credit record. I should have access to all information ANYONE keeps on me unless it's being used to prosecute me for a crime. When is this going to happen at the supermarket? Until then, I refuse to use these cards.

    I very seriously doubt that Tesco spends millions of pounds (probably tens of millions of pounds) on its loyalty card database just because it can. Most businesses insistent on a bottom-line improvement in the business before laying out that kind of money. And if a company does spend that type of money and doesn't get a profitable return, they stop the program. Morevoer, the type of data collected by a loyalty card program is perfect for assessing the business benefits of a loyalty card program. Tesco started their program 10 years ago. I doubt it would still be in use today if it didn't provide direct benefits to the company.

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  14. Anyone here ever read "Jennifer Govenment"? by Asprin · · Score: 2, Informative


    Anyone here ever read Jennifer Govenment by Max Barry?

    It's a crime drama/thriller set in a future where People take the name of the company they work for as their surname (John Nike, Ken Wal-Mart, etc.); and customer loyalty cards and brand recognition inpsire riots, war and murder.

    I read it the same month I read Farenheit 451, (which might be the single best book I ever read.)

    *THAT* was a fun month for paranoia, I can tell you.

    All y'all that haven't read those two books need to go out and do so IMMEDIATELY. Thank you, Public Library for having them on the shelves.

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  15. 1 out of every 3 GBP? No. by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 2, Informative
    From Tesco's own investor site [http://www.tescocorporate.com/ the gross sales was 37,070 million GBP [about $65.8 B USD].

    The British GDP is about 1 Trillion [1.7 T USD]

    That seems a far cry from 1 out of every 3 GBP. Unless you mean, maybe, actual currency passing thru the stores, at some point.

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  16. Re:What if Wal-Mart by Asprin · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Regretably, the fact that Wal-Mart doesn't use loyalty cards is one of the few admirable things about them.

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  17. Cards give you cash back by grahamsz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Tesco give you back 1% of what you spend - so there's a very strong incentive to make sure that all your cards are registered to your home address.

    They don't pull much of this "card member discount" crap that stores here in the US do. When i lived in the UK I would probably use half of all the coupons that tesco mailed to me - they were THAT effective.

  18. Re:tracking devices by jrboatright · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The grocery chain (and tesco) really don't CARE about your identity. They are generally perfectly happy to give a loyalty card to a form made out to "Mickey Mouse" and an address of the local city office.

    What they want is the BUYING PATTERNS... and they get this IRRESPECTIVE of your identity. The fact that people who buy Milk on Tuesday, also buy Boneless turkey thighs on Saterday is interesting. Who those people are is not terribly interesting.

    This is why, chains with loyalty cards PRINT your discount coupons AT THE REGISTER as you go through. No wasting coupons mailing them to people who don't come in. No mailing cost, etc. And once again, your identity is of no consequence.

    Go get the discount card. Put a fake name and an address four blocks over. They DON'T CARE....

  19. Max Barry anyone by Kevertje · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This story reminds me of a book written by Max Barry, titled Jennifer Government...
    In that book, there are 2 major customer loyalty programs with all big brands participating in one of them. The world is run by the corporations, employees take on the name of their employer and the police is now a publicly owned security firm (participating in one of said programs) which only investigates crimes if they can bill the investigation (on the victim of course)

  20. Not Saving Any Money by Blackbird_Highway · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Stores that use these tracking card systems always charge more than stores that don't. There have been many studies that have proven it. Check the Wall Street Journal. You can prove it yourself, I did. Just check the prices of items in the store, before and after they go on sale with a card discount. One week the frozen fish is 2.99. The next week, it's 3.79, but you get .80 off if you use your card! You're saving .80! What a bargain! As long as the sheep who shop there think they are saving money, the store is more profitable, so it's all good, right?

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  21. Re:Echoes of WalMart and Microsoft by aslate · · Score: 2, Informative
    There is an urgent need for stricter laws governing the behavior of the mega-corporations and a brave and uncorrupted judiciary to enforce them.

    What's the point? Take the following example:
    • Tesco sees an area with no local supermarket
    • It also happens to be a relatively wealthy area
    • There's no land to build their store
    • Locals are angry, the local council says no
    • Tesco get the OK from the Government instead, they create land by tunneling over the railway line and building ontop of it.
    • Tunnel collapses and trains to London are still buggered
  22. Privacy Tax vs. Perceived Savings by wasted+time · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Some of you may be interested in reading a bit about these so called loyalty card programs here. http://www.nocards.org/

    I am not usually the tinfoil hat type, and these people tend to go a little overboard with some of their logic (especially on the RFID side) but most of their information about the loyalty card programs I have found to be true.

    Having worked for a grocery chain for 8 years and most recently a pharmacy chain for 12 years, I am very familiar with the pricing and promotion models used in both. Buying product, setting prices, and developing promotions was my job. The apparent savings offered to these loyalty card holders is nothing of the sort in most cases. Most chains simply raise the normal everyday price of an item and then offer what used to be the everyday price (pre card program) to only those willing to apply for and use the card. This is effectively charging a privacy tax to anyone not wishing to participate in the data collection program. Ironically, that privacy tax pays for collecting data on card holders, with no true cost benefit to any customers.

    My favorite example of this is something near and dear to my heart, my coffee creamer. Back when only one of the three grocery chains in my town had a card program, my favorite coffee creamer retailed everyday for $1.19 in all three stores. Even the card store had to maintain that price everyday to stay competitive with the two non-card stores. This was a few years ago, when this card program was just catching on full force in the US. Well, eventually the other two chains joined in the scam and suddenly the price of my coffee creamer started to go through the roof. This item began retailing from $1.79 to $1.99 everyday but with a loyalty card price of $1.19 to $1.29. This is a non-dairy product, so fluctuating milk prices had nothing to do with it. If I had raised everyday prices in my category by 50-60%, I could have stopped buying and taken a long vacation before too long!

    The pharmacy chain I left this spring just implemented one of these card programs about 6 months before I left. I was one of the only dissenters when the topic first came up in a marketing meeting. Everyone else claimed that we just had to have a loyalty program "because we look out of place if we don't." My stance was that not having one of these irritating programs could be a great marketing point. Unfortunately, most market research falsely indicates that the average consumer loves these damn things and of course our management team wanted to be loved.

    Once it was decided that they would start their own program, I began to investigate the subject a little deeper and found the site above. It was at that time I also started to seriously think about my role in the process and began looking to get out of retail all together if I couldn't find a new employer with a little common sense and a focus on true customer service. I don't feel right charging more to people who simply wish to remain unmonitored.

    If you are lucky enough to live near a grocer and/or pharmacy which does not have a loyalty program, do yourself a favor and support those stores. Tell the managers you shop in their stores because they don't insult your intelligence by offering you artificial savings in exchange for spying on you.

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    The Stone Age did not end because humans ran out of stones. - William McDonough
  23. Ask to use the store card. by cyclobotomy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ask to use the store card. I have been doing this for years and have never been turned down by the register oprtator.