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When Microbes Ate the Ocean

museumpeace writes "When /. discussed a story about microbes that could break down water as a hydrogen source, many commentors went off on a tangent joking about runaway germs eating the oceans. Now, prof Joe Kirschvink and students at CalTech propose that indeed, the worst iceage ever, which nearly ended life on earth 2.3 billion years ago, was the result of algae evolving the ability to break down water and flooding the atmosphere with oxygen. The absence of oxygen consuming organisms at that time is said to have lead to destruction of atmospheric methane which had hitherto warmed the earth. The professor concludes: 'We haven't had a Snowball in the past 630 million years, and because the sun is warmer now it may be harder to get into the right condition. But if it ever happens, all life on Earth would likely be destroyed.'"

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  1. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by AnalogBoy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I just want to say.. Thank you.
    I'm sure you'll be modded down as a troll, as /. doesn't like dissenters in the population. They try to keep you silent and impotent.

    I firmly believe once a community reaches a certain size, it has certain duties to perform, to the truth, the absence of sensationalism, and most of all, equality.

    Moderators: I have posted without my +1 bonus. This post is admittedly offtopic. Don't waste your moderation points on a reply. I suggest you use moderation points on parent posts. Its more economical. And remember - mod UP intelligent posts, mod DOWN klerckisms.

  2. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Mr+Thinly+Sliced · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I'm more than willing to burn the karma in the hope that some moderators MOD UP the parent post.

    It's intelligent, factual, and above all interesting.

    Mr Thinly Sliced

  3. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by susano_otter · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You're new here, aren't you?

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  4. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    And compared to some of the gibberish that pops up on here, a damn sight more interesting.

  5. Do you want to finger me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Tee-hee!

    1. Re:Do you want to finger me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Add me too please

  6. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Yes, nothing like a troll to prove the parent correct.

    Mod this UP.

  7. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by checkyoulater · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    As I tried to return to this post from one of the links it was gone.

    It was modded down.

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  8. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Very nice. Keep up the good work. I'm glad i spotted this post before it was modded down.

    Please continue your research and keep us updated.

  9. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Moderation Totals: Offtopic=6, Troll=1, Insightful=4, Interesting=3, Informative=3, Total=17.

    This post had better make it into meta moderation.

  10. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    And, like an idiot, just undid my 4 moderations to this article, including undoing my mod down of this post.

  11. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    but slashdot editors are the ones modding posts down, jaime has admitted it...too lazy to look up his actual post claiming this.

  12. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by spamkabuki · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Absolutely right and far more interesting than the fact that Oracle has security flaws. So, now what? A few thoughts...

    Ditch the Anonymous Coward posts. Just have multiple accounts and accountability for each of them.

    User moderation doesn't seem to be such a terrible idea, just poorly implemented. Reconsider how moderator points are allotted. Who gets points, why, and how many?

    OTOH, moderation can be just a quick, mindless way of dissing people without adding anything to the discussion. Responding creatively would make the whole shebang a lot more interesting.

    Any other ideas?

  13. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Why bother modding up? Generalissimo Taco and the rest of the House UnSlashdotterian Committee have infinite mod points, so this post will eventually be modded into -1 hell along with the goatse links.

    To go back on topic, I am not suprised someone found security hole's in Oracle software.

  14. Getting karma's pretty easy. by Wakko+Warner · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    A few months back, this account was bitchslapped for some reason or other. Nobody ever explained why. My precious karma went down to -5 (from 45).

    Within a week, I was back posting at +2 with a karma of something like 35. I've found that, the more agreeable you are on slashdot (and the earlier you post), the more karma you get.

    Tips?

    • Post early - this ensures people will see your post, as most people use threaded/earliest posts first.
    • Shorter posts are better - people hate reading really long-ass posts (this one is already starting to drag on.) The more succinct you are, the more likely people are to read your post. As long as you say one interesting thing in it, you'll get modded up.
    • moderators love links - always include some relevant link, if you can. People love cross-references on slashdot
    • Say something funny, even if you're a retard - some of the moderators on slashdot have terrible senses of humor and find anything funny. Take advantage of this! A +3 Funny is still 1 or 2 karma points.
    • Ride +5 posts - if someone else says something insightful, take advantage of it. Try and get people to click on your comments, because most people have their accounts set up to display the full text of high-rated comments.



      • Anyone else have any suggestions? This is just stuff I've experienced.

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    1. Re:Getting karma's pretty easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Anyone else have any suggestions?

      If you want to avoid getting your account bitchslapped, don't post "How to abuse the Moderation System" tips while logged in ;)

    2. Re:Getting karma's pretty easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      In an OS discussion, you can try talking out your ass about how good VMS was. Since practically nobody knows any better, you are less likely to get modded down.

    3. Re:Getting karma's pretty easy. by ArnoldYabenson · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      That's not abuse, it's brown-nosing. The mod system is the way it is in order to promote cetain results, and most of his advice concerns how to give /.'s editors what they want.

      To take up another user's rallying cry, I agree that negative moderation should go. Moderation should be done in half-points, with no one person able to change the mod-level of a post (no one persion should be able to make anther person's post disappear). There should be a larger scale, from 0 to, say, 8 -- or even 10 -- so political dissenters won't be so likely to dwell with goat.se trollers.

    4. Re:Getting karma's pretty easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I've noticed that phrases like "I'm know I'm going to be modded to hell for this", preferably attached to an insightful post, invariably draw a +1 moderation from a moderator who thinks he's so cool for "going against the /. mob mentality."

    5. Re:Getting karma's pretty easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Really, any reference to karma inside of a post will draw positive moderation.

      "Hey, I've got karma to burn."

      "I'm just being a karma whore here, but..."

    6. Re:Getting karma's pretty easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I'd mod them down, just because they're asking for it. Ha!

    7. Re:Getting karma's pretty easy. by fedos · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      It's not brown-nosing either, he's telling you exactly what is said in Slashdot's Moderator's Guideline's.

    8. Re:Getting karma's pretty easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Write in paragraphs. If you put all your text in one big blob it will not be moderated up. Of course this doesn't apply to really big posts, but if it is of a fairly decent length split the text up.

      As you can see, this post is much better than if this line had been with the rest.

  15. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Man thats a really weak 'get back on topic' effort there. Nice one.

  16. Re:Wow, someone actually agrees... by negativekarmanow+tm · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If anything, it only encourages more trolling as trolls giggle with delight when some jackass gives them a negative score.

    I'd say that pretty much sums it up.

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  17. Re:Wow, someone actually agrees... by slashdot2.2sucks · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    But I want those goat sex pictures and links clearly seperated from all others

    Maybe we need a new moderation

    -10 Goat Sex

  18. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by negativekarmanow+tm · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Slashdot: the the most successful troll ever!

    Excuse me, there's a type in your .sig

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  19. Re:Wow, someone actually agrees... by rhost89 · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Im personally anoyed at the negative moderations, say for instance you have hit the karma cap, you post something and it gets moded up to +5 (Still at 50 karma cap) the someone comes allong and you get moded down -2 for some reason or another, now your at 48.

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  20. Re:Wow, someone actually agrees... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    No, you need to edit your /etc/hosts

  21. Re:Wow, someone actually agrees... by susano_otter · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Well, if the system recorded Karma earned past 50, it wouldn't really be "capped" at 50, would it? Especially if, as you seem to suggest, you'd actually have to receive additional negative moderation to remove those above-50 points prior to actually losing any of the first 50 points.

    Perhaps what you meant to say was that there should be no Karma cap.

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  22. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Pyrrus · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    since everyone is going on about how they wanna
    burn karma and how slashdot sucks:
    mod this post down.

  23. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by mvdwege · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Fscking bullshit!!!

    All I've seen modded to +5 (Insightful) lately is the fscking Microsoft shills.

    FOAD, GOAT, HAND,

    Mart (who's expecting that the Microsoft employees^W shills will mod this to oblivion)
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  24. Yes... meta-moderating... by Lethyos · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    That way I can have my shot at it. ;)

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    1. Re:Yes... meta-moderating... by fedos · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      I have read the journal entry your sig links to, and for the most part, you're right.

      Is this really necessary? Moderation Totals: Offtopic=3, Flamebait=1, Troll=1, Total=5. Come on idiots, at the very least, don't negatively moderate people already at -1!

      I just want to point out that this can happen from five people all choosing to moderate and only seeing the post at 0. Yes, in this case you would still meda-moderate a single negative moderation as unfair, but there is a legitimate reason that there were five negative moderations.

  25. Re:Wow, someone actually agrees... by susano_otter · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Well, that makes sense. Thank you! Carry on.

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  26. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by susano_otter · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    No there isn't.

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  27. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Acaila · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    How about haveing a set of core moderators (Say 4-5 carefully selected users) and when they mod something up. The poster of that comment gets some mod points to distribute. (Obviously they shouldn't be allowed to mod themselves up)

    That way only people who make meaningful contributions are able mod up other meaningful contributions.

    Just a suggestion I made up right now. Its probably full of holes. (Which I'm sure I'll hear about)

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  28. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Yeah, modded down to 0 from 3 in about five seconds. Jesus CHRIST the moderators SUCK here.

  29. Re:Wow, someone actually agrees... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Who cares if you're at 50 or 48? If you're a good poster, you'll get back up to the cap eventually. If not, your downward slide just starts a little sooner.

  30. Re:Correction! by fedos · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Maybe Jamie was so quick to label you a troll because the word appeared in the email address that you sent from and you post at -1. Also, I don't see why the folks who write the code behind Slashdot should worry about trolls getting modded below the -1 minimum. Heck, from the number of trolls I've seen lately, they should specifically allow it to happen to folks that post at default of -1.

    Maybe a system should be put in place that permanently bans troll accounts after so many temporary bannings. Slashdot is supposed to be about the exchanging of ideas, trolls do not bring ideas to the discussion.

  31. Re:Wow, someone actually agrees... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You mean like kuro5hin.org? Yes, they have a better system, so why am I still here? Because the average posts they put up are boring or too intellectual. I like stupid commercial advertisements like Slashdot posts.

  32. Re:Wow, someone actually agrees... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    that doesn't get rid of the dozens of stupid links that get in the way of the people trying to have a real discussion.

  33. Re:Wow, someone actually agrees... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    intellectual?? i think you mean pseudo-intellectual. those pompous assholes there think they know everything. it's funny to see how often they get trolled. it's basically a left-wing, bleeding-heart liberals site for computer geeks. and they barely cover tech issues anymore.

  34. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    yup bitchslapped...

  35. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ..not to mention "insightful"!

  36. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    No shit. And it's been that way for more than a little while. You'll also get modded down for saying Microsoft sucks even though it's a god damned fact.

  37. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Come on. You know that's not true. It used to be, but it just isn't now.

  38. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Wouldn't that be Quad Xeon?

    I'll leave phenomenon alone =)

  39. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Fitascious · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Oh yeah... I phailed inglish class

  40. Re:Wow, someone actually agrees... by rm-r · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    maybe now that we've got the friends and foes structure we should be able to do our own moderation. I wouldn't be suprised if this is what the divine Taco has planned anyway...

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  41. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Wow, i seem to have sprung a karma leak.

    USE YOUR MODERATOR POINTS INTELLIGENTLY IF YOU USE THEM AT ALL.. and stop thinking with your hormones.

  42. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Yes there is.

  43. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Is this post on topic enough for you?

  44. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    sif bitchslap!

    it's all bnorted!

  45. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    No, really, there isn't.

  46. Be One of Us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  47. Re:Wow, someone actually agrees... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Unfortunately, that doesn't help with Anonymous Coward posts.

    (And, no, I'm not gonna use my real account. Must preserve precious karma...)

  48. Re:Wow, someone actually agrees... by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    intellectual?? i think you mean pseudo-intellectual. those pompous assholes there think they know everything. it's funny to see how often they get trolled. it's basically a left-wing, bleeding-heart liberals site for computer geeks. and they barely cover tech issues anymore.

    HAHA! Just like /.

    Difference is, K5 is community driven, if they sway away from what the origonal contect was suppoesd to be about. It's because that's what the K5 community wanted, since they choose and submit the stories.

    I'd would like to have said "Hey, if you want tech stories, goto Slashdot, not K5." But My first line explains why I didn't.

  49. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by KilobyteKnight · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I didn't think I'd ever see anything like this on Slashdot. This is not what I thought Slashdot was all about.

    I'm starting my stop watch. Let's see how long before this is modded down.

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  50. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    No, seriously, there is!

    Now what were we talking about again?

  51. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by BSD+is+dying · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you disagree with the moderation in this thread, please take up posting in this discussion as a protest of what's going on here. I hope there's enough people who care to get that discussion among Slashdot's most active ones. That's on the page to create a discussion if you don't know.

    Sorry if it seems like I'm spamming this, but it needs to be done if the editors are going to wake up and conclude that what they did to this thread was wrong.

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  52. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Check it out now:
    Moderation Totals: Offtopic=188, Flamebait=4, Troll=19, Redundant=3, Insightful=47, Interesting=107, Informative=28, Funny=6, Overrated=8, Underrated=32, Total=442.

    four hundred and fucking two. +5 though; the people have won.

  53. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by spamkabuki · · Score: 0, Offtopic



    Unix evolved from Multics.

  54. Re:Wow, someone actually agrees... by spamkabuki · · Score: 0, Offtopic



    Just, K5 is slow...

    Too many /. refugees flooding the system??

  55. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by spamkabuki · · Score: 0, Offtopic



    The last thing the editors want to see is this post in the hall of fame. I sincerely doubt they'll go so far as to keep it out, but a story in the hall of fame with a thread like this is the last thing the editors want.

    So let's keep posting the hell outta this until it's right up in the hof most active. This will truly test the editors confidence, or lack thereof.

  56. Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation by Nater · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I've met -so many- linux zealots who can't back their claims of superiority with one fact, yet, they hate windows.. for no reason except the stereotypical "It crashes all the time!" and "Microsoft is a Facist Monopoly bent on world domination!". I forgot who said it, but i like him or her: "Open Source; Closed Minds".

    'Tis unfortunate but true. I think a lot of people have latched onto the meme that Linux is a renegade upstart come to topple giants and have formed meager justifications that reflect that basis. These people don't think, they don't lead, and most of them don't write code. They're followers, and many followed Gates before they followed Linus.

    Linux is a tool, licensed in a manner very different from similar tools... nothing more, nothing less. Like any tool it has strengths and weaknesses.

    I have my reasons for choosing Linux and that's good enough for me. I used to use Windows. Here's why I switched to Linux:

    • The Windows design philosophy of ease-of-use presumes that the user fears complexity, can't understand complexity, and will run from complexity. The overriding factor in every Microsoft design decision is that the details must remain hidden, and often there is no way to discover them, even when it becomes necessary to do so in order to solve a problem. Contrast Linux: The Linux design philosophy of perform-hard-and-get-the-job-done presumes that the user wants to accomplish something, and the user will determine for him-/herself whether dealing with the complexity is more or less trouble than the end goal is worth.
    • The Microsoft business philosophy places Microsoft's profit ahead of all other considerations. This results in many bugs going unfixed when Microsoft decides that fixing them is more expensive than than the dent in customer satisfaction caused by buggy products. It also results in the licensing terms that dictate how and for what purposes the user may use a product. Contrast Free Software. The Free Software business philosophy does not exist in a collective form. It is each user deciding unilaterally what to do and how to do it. Many of them share their results. Some do not.
    • The Corporate production philosophy presumes that developers are few. This results in a mindset that solutions to problems are handed down from the developers to the users, and that the developers can't be bothered to cater to individual users, therefore the users may only get what they're given. Contrast Collectivism. The Collectivist production philosophy presumes that there are many developers. From each according to his ability, and to each according to his need. And it works because there is plenty to go around.

    I have a set of tasks that I would like to perform using computers and I have chosen Linux over Windows because Linux is a better tool for my tasks. That and I like the philosophy.

    If somebody else wants to use Linux simply because it's grassroots or because it's free($) then I say to each his own. Maybe along the way they'll discover that they're smart people who can solve their own problems, and that Microsoft was really holding them back. Who knows?

    Likewise, if somebody wants to use Windows, and has reasons for doing so, then again I say to each his own.

    Screaming 14 year olds, as is said, having pissing contests over l33tness

    This is typical of most 14 year olds. Some 14 year olds happen to use Linux. They'll each grow up and eventually stop pissing in their own time, but the fact that a group of people with these characteristics exists is simply a feature of our world... or maybe it's a bug ;-)

    its better than sitting at work staring at the birds frying in the satellite transmitters on a slow day!

    That it is!

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  57. So let's get off this rock before it happens /nt by Sarojin · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!
        Reason: You can type more than that for your commen

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  58. Re:Breaking the Mold by Doc+Ruby · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Anonymous slime mold Coward, what the fuck is wrong with you? I bet mold doesn't hate itself. You're too conditioned by the TV, hearing only soundbytes. "He said we're mold! He must be a liberal!" What an asshole. You're so partisan and jingoistic that you can't even take a look at the big picture to save your own life. Personally, I hate you for being human. Because mold as dumb as you stays politely out of the conversation.

    Also, what the hell is this "majority of the US" you're spluttering about? The majority of the US doesn't go along with *any* politics. Of the fraction who can vote, only about 60% do, for the past 35 years. Accounting for Nixon's pandering to the 18-year-olds he was sending to Vietnam, voting turnout has been steady at least since WWII - leaving the majority of Americans not even voting for anyone. And even in recent elections, the past 2 presidential ones, that "majority" you're assumedly blithering about has amounted to a barely significant 1-3%, even ignoring Bush fraud in Ohio and Florida - twice. What do you say about the actual majority, polled this week, which disapproves of you moronic fascists in every way?

    Stick your fake "majority" up your ass. It might not outnumber the rest of us, but it is big enough to fit a gigantic Anonymous asshole Coward like you.

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