True, you may not be able to upgrade to the newest OS. But, sometimes you don't have to. My folks were still using my old Mac SE productively 'til about a year ago. Still runs like a top.
How old is the oldest Wintel box you've ever seen running?
The last thing the editors want to see is this post in the hall of fame. I sincerely doubt they'll go so far as to keep it out, but a story in the hall of fame with a thread like this is the last thing the editors want.
So let's keep posting the hell outta this until it's right up in the hof most active. This will truly test the editors confidence, or lack thereof.
From the article- "For the current quarter, Amazon said that it expects to reach the break-even point at best or, at worst, to post a pro forma loss of $16 million"
OK, they made a (small) profit over Xmas. To be quickly more than offset by losses in ensuing quarters. Let's see an annual profit! Hell hasn't frozen over yet...
Seriously, I'd like to find a reasonable use for worthless CDroms
I'm thinking about reshingling the shed in my backyard with them. Just layer them like fish scales to cover the holes. Mmm...Shiny pool shed...Shiny...
loses one tentacle in MV, and retreats to it's lair. But, like play-doh, it will ooze forth in another direction. So much for M$ reaching outside Redmond to embrace the Valley. Embrace and extend? No, retreat and regroup.
Web/Ultimate TV was dead in the water anyway. Dunno why they didn't do this ages ago. TiVo and Replay may have the field to themselves for now, but they better make the most of it while they can. Game consoles were the holiday gift of 2001, but DVR's better be the gift of 2002, or they will sink under the wave of the Beast's next tentacular oozing.
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www.craigslist.org is a bit of a step in the right direction on this front. They localize by region, even localizing within the general Bay Area/SV. And, they are quite successful doing so.
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I'm not sure Putnam's description of declining voting applies here. Of course presidential voting has declined. Presidential politics has declined. Why does it deserve participation? Perhaps more people just disregard the whole circus as irrelevant.
TV and the Net function very differently in this context. TV has fragmented quite a bit as cable proliferated and split into niches. When there were only a few shows on, you could expect your neighbor to have watched a given program with some confidence. Can you expect your neighbor to have read a thread on K5? The Net seems to be even more divisive than TV in this sense.
However, the Net may allow tighter communities of smaller interest. You can find people of very esoteric interests on the Net, but do you meet them IRL? except for LUGs, I can't say that I have. But when new in town, finding a group is a big help, particularly if the group has a strong social feeling. One of the better user groups I know of meets in a bar and catches a local blues band; meetings are primarily social, lists are technical.
Connections within an online community can be fragile. Katz describes the failure of the public spaces online. Obnoxiousness may come in many forms. Could be snotty kids, or snooty power-hungry editor/moderators. What happened to The First Troll Post Inv. is a perfect example of community forming around an issue online and getting slapped for their trouble. Many users trying improve the quality of communication and community on/. got whacked because of the childish insecurity of some editors.
How can an online community like/. engender real community when it is censored? Won't happen. Will I get modded down for linking to the forbidden post in a relevant subject? Could be...Burn, Karma, Burn!
Debian is a non-profit project staffed by volunteers (some of whom are supported by various employers). Therefore, it *can't* be bought at any price.
Oh, yeah?
From the Debian site, " `Debian' and the Debian Logo are trademarks of Software in the Public Interest, Inc."
Trademarks can be bought and sold, and so can companies, even non-profits (or non-profitable, as the case may be). So, save your pennies kids, and become a corporate Linux Mogul.
Yeah, that's what I meant. shoulda tagged the "pay"!
Gawd, I hated paying for MacOS upgrades where I actually got something for my money. Plus having to pay twice for OS's in two languages. Paying double damage for a US edition and a Japanese edition just burned my butt! Same OS, different package, double price!
Re:Great idea and sounds like fun to work on
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Rig: Use a trailer. You can hook it up to a different vehicle when the bus/rv is in the shop.
OS: Linux, *BSD, Win2K, and Mac. Gotta show people the differences out there. We all have our pref's, but poeple need to be prepared for what they may be forced to use. Even if we're all so sure what is superior, gotta show people to convince them;) Also, you might want to look at thin clients??
Apps: Think about this one. People want to use applications, not OS's. This may effect above.
Net: I suppose it depends upon what kinda wireless you may have available in the area.
General: By rural, what do you mean? Is this an agricultural area? Modern farming uses a lot of IT these days, gps, chemical measurement, databases, sat photos even. Check with your local farmers/agri extension office. What do they use? What do they want to use? How can they help you? If it's not agri, but forestry, mining, tourism, light manufacturing, other, the same applies. Talk to the locals.
How many people will it serve at once? If not everyone can be on a machine at once, what other resources will you provide for people who are waiting that can enhance things? Video with projector for instruction while waiting? Other not-specifically IT technology education, like some basic electronics or radio stuff? These things can all be quickly unloaded and expand the number of people served and complement the IT stuff itself.
PC makers don't get it... there is simply no way to differentiate yourself in this market or under Intel or MS's umbrella...
Sure there is; look at Sony. They came relatively late to the PC game and have done very well. While they have a well deserved rep for proprietary hardware problems, the flip side of this is giving consumers what they want and leveraging their strengths.
In some ways you could compare them to Apple. Firewire, strong video integration for users, high (relative to a beige box) design sense. Re: music, they have taken a different road by tying some of their desktop PC's to MiniDisc, a format you may not see much in the US, but which dominates in Japan, and is I believe more prevalent in Europe.
They're also one of the few manufacturers to try to run with Crusoe; not exactly under Intel's umbrella. As far as M$, well Linux and *BSD are very nice, but not really ready for the homebody users that are Sony's bread and butter. I run Suse on my Vaio notebook and am very happy with it.
There is no way to differentiate a commodity except price, so take your products out of the pure commodity category, and people will buy.
If it was good software, shouldn't the user not have to go through that much trouble to get his problem fixed?
Sure, if they don't want the trouble, they can just pay for an upgrade. Oh, that's right, wrong OS;)
If linux makes any ground at all in the desktop market, do you expect each of those people to know what to do when something crashes on them? Do you think they will have a clue how to fix it or report what happened in detail?
Not each of those people, but it is reasonable to expect someone commenting on the state of the kernel to have a clue, or know where to find one.
If Linux makes progress on the desktop, which at times seems doubtful, some portion of the users has to make the effort to report bugs/crashes in a meaningful and useful way. I haven't had much reason to do so. But the one time I made a suggestion to Yellow Dog re: their installer and documentation, I did eventually get a response. It wasn't a critical issue and I felt very satisfied.
hobbyists dream
Didn't a lot of (if not most) OS's and programs start out as hobbyists' dreams?
X-Files started to get caught in a kind of "Lost in Space" mode. Problem, adventure, no resolution, reset to starting point.
The movie is perfect example of this. It had to appeal to non-TV viewers by not being too convoluted. OTOH, it couldn't really change anything because it would void the upcoming season. Thus, the kind of "it was all just a bad dream" dynamic that started to take over.
IIRC, the plan was to have one season after the first film, then finis. The show would end, but allow periodic films that would really get things rolling. The various Trek franchises have proven the workability of this.
It seems Carter got greedy or scared. Either he wanted to keep the TV power he had, or he was afraid to give up his baby and make a serious jump to films and real plot development/resolution. The show has just been wallowing in a lot bad horror type crap lately (Didja see Dogget get amnesia from some fiendish soul sucker? Puh-leeze!)
I miss the dark paranoid tone of cancer man, aliens, conspiracy that was so cool. Is there any possibility that Carter can resurrect that on film? I dunno, but every new episode reduces the chances.
Just too bad; fine performances in the characters of Dogget and Reyes. Too bad they are wasted on lame plots.
Absolutely right and far more interesting than the fact that Oracle has security flaws. So, now what? A few thoughts...
Ditch the Anonymous Coward posts. Just have multiple accounts and accountability for each of them.
User moderation doesn't seem to be such a terrible idea, just poorly implemented. Reconsider how moderator points are allotted. Who gets points, why, and how many?
OTOH, moderation can be just a quick, mindless way of dissing people without adding anything to the discussion. Responding creatively would make the whole shebang a lot more interesting.
I don't think you can make the general voting populace care about open source as a campaign issue. It will just distract from your other (I hope) sound campaign stances.
OTOH, campaigns aren't won by getting all the votes, just by getting enough. Elections can be decided by a slim margin. Will 400 more votes make the difference for you? Maybe.
You can talk about open source to the right people; LUGs, CS students at local schools, IT/tech workers, etc. Target your open source msg to these folks and bring in non-voters or sway fence-sitters in these groups.
Once you win, push open source solutions to save money. Tax payers love saving money on gov't budgets. You can then use this goodwill/political capital to get things done and/or continue to serve in gov't.
Slashdot Mirror
True, you may not be able to upgrade to the newest OS. But, sometimes you don't have to. My folks were still using my old Mac SE productively 'til about a year ago. Still runs like a top.
How old is the oldest Wintel box you've ever seen running?
I learned Latin in high school. It's a dead language too. Does that mean C will be easier for me to learn? Any family resemblance?
The last thing the editors want to see is this post in the hall of fame. I sincerely doubt they'll go so far as to keep it out, but a story in the hall of fame with a thread like this is the last thing the editors want.
So let's keep posting the hell outta this until it's right up in the hof most active. This will truly test the editors confidence, or lack thereof.
Just, K5 is slow...
Too many
Unix evolved from Multics.
How 'bout these?
Wicked On-line Zither
Wasted Old Zorba
Wimpy Orange Zest
Whackos On ZOG
West of Zanzibar
Wendy On Zippy
We're Obsessed by Zat
Wildebeast Or Zebra?
Or a very dependable profit.
From the article- "For the current quarter, Amazon said that it expects to reach the break-even point at best or, at worst, to post a pro forma loss of $16 million"
OK, they made a (small) profit over Xmas. To be quickly more than offset by losses in ensuing quarters. Let's see an annual profit! Hell hasn't frozen over yet...
Seriously, I'd like to find a reasonable use for worthless CDroms
I'm thinking about reshingling the shed in my backyard with them. Just layer them like fish scales to cover the holes. Mmm...Shiny pool shed...Shiny...
When you put it in the Play-Doh factory or the Play-Doh barbershop.
loses one tentacle in MV, and retreats to it's lair. But, like play-doh, it will ooze forth in another direction. So much for M$ reaching outside Redmond to embrace the Valley. Embrace and extend? No, retreat and regroup.
Web/Ultimate TV was dead in the water anyway. Dunno why they didn't do this ages ago. TiVo and Replay may have the field to themselves for now, but they better make the most of it while they can. Game consoles were the holiday gift of 2001, but DVR's better be the gift of 2002, or they will sink under the wave of the Beast's next tentacular oozing.
Whoops! Thanks for the correction.
www.craigslist.org is a bit of a step in the right direction on this front. They localize by region, even localizing within the general Bay Area/SV. And, they are quite successful doing so.
I'm not sure Putnam's description of declining voting applies here. Of course presidential voting has declined. Presidential politics has declined. Why does it deserve participation? Perhaps more people just disregard the whole circus as irrelevant.
TV and the Net function very differently in this context. TV has fragmented quite a bit as cable proliferated and split into niches. When there were only a few shows on, you could expect your neighbor to have watched a given program with some confidence. Can you expect your neighbor to have read a thread on K5? The Net seems to be even more divisive than TV in this sense.
However, the Net may allow tighter communities of smaller interest. You can find people of very esoteric interests on the Net, but do you meet them IRL? except for LUGs, I can't say that I have. But when new in town, finding a group is a big help, particularly if the group has a strong social feeling. One of the better user groups I know of meets in a bar and catches a local blues band; meetings are primarily social, lists are technical.
Connections within an online community can be fragile. Katz describes the failure of the public spaces online. Obnoxiousness may come in many forms. Could be snotty kids, or snooty power-hungry editor/moderators. What happened to The First Troll Post Inv. is a perfect example of community forming around an issue online and getting slapped for their trouble. Many users trying improve the quality of communication and community on /. got whacked because of the childish insecurity of some editors.
How can an online community like /. engender real community when it is censored? Won't happen. Will I get modded down for linking to the forbidden post in a relevant subject? Could be...Burn, Karma, Burn!
Oh, yeah?
From the Debian site, " `Debian' and the Debian Logo are trademarks of Software in the Public Interest, Inc."
Trademarks can be bought and sold, and so can companies, even non-profits (or non-profitable, as the case may be). So, save your pennies kids, and become a corporate Linux Mogul.
Yup, here's the link.
Yeah, that's what I meant. shoulda tagged the "pay"!
Gawd, I hated paying for MacOS upgrades where I actually got something for my money. Plus having to pay twice for OS's in two languages. Paying double damage for a US edition and a Japanese edition just burned my butt! Same OS, different package, double price!
Yeah, excellent idea. Gives plenty of flexibilty.
Rig: Use a trailer. You can hook it up to a different vehicle when the bus/rv is in the shop.
;) Also, you might want to look at thin clients??
OS: Linux, *BSD, Win2K, and Mac. Gotta show people the differences out there. We all have our pref's, but poeple need to be prepared for what they may be forced to use. Even if we're all so sure what is superior, gotta show people to convince them
Apps: Think about this one. People want to use applications, not OS's. This may effect above.
Net: I suppose it depends upon what kinda wireless you may have available in the area.
General: By rural, what do you mean? Is this an agricultural area? Modern farming uses a lot of IT these days, gps, chemical measurement, databases, sat photos even. Check with your local farmers/agri extension office. What do they use? What do they want to use? How can they help you? If it's not agri, but forestry, mining, tourism, light manufacturing, other, the same applies. Talk to the locals.
How many people will it serve at once? If not everyone can be on a machine at once, what other resources will you provide for people who are waiting that can enhance things? Video with projector for instruction while waiting? Other not-specifically IT technology education, like some basic electronics or radio stuff? These things can all be quickly unloaded and expand the number of people served and complement the IT stuff itself.
PC makers don't get it... there is simply no way to differentiate yourself in this market or under Intel or MS's umbrella...
Sure there is; look at Sony. They came relatively late to the PC game and have done very well. While they have a well deserved rep for proprietary hardware problems, the flip side of this is giving consumers what they want and leveraging their strengths.
In some ways you could compare them to Apple. Firewire, strong video integration for users, high (relative to a beige box) design sense. Re: music, they have taken a different road by tying some of their desktop PC's to MiniDisc, a format you may not see much in the US, but which dominates in Japan, and is I believe more prevalent in Europe.
They're also one of the few manufacturers to try to run with Crusoe; not exactly under Intel's umbrella. As far as M$, well Linux and *BSD are very nice, but not really ready for the homebody users that are Sony's bread and butter. I run Suse on my Vaio notebook and am very happy with it.
There is no way to differentiate a commodity except price, so take your products out of the pure commodity category, and people will buy.
Might some of you be interested in doing this?
;)
Sure. Maybe as a reply to this ask slashdot! Better take your address off your webpage before you get inundated with mail. Just kidding
If it was good software, shouldn't the user not have to go through that much trouble to get his problem fixed?
;)
Sure, if they don't want the trouble, they can just pay for an upgrade. Oh, that's right, wrong OS
If linux makes any ground at all in the desktop market, do you expect each of those people to know what to do when something crashes on them? Do you think they will have a clue how to fix it or report what happened in detail?
Not each of those people, but it is reasonable to expect someone commenting on the state of the kernel to have a clue, or know where to find one.
If Linux makes progress on the desktop, which at times seems doubtful, some portion of the users has to make the effort to report bugs/crashes in a meaningful and useful way. I haven't had much reason to do so. But the one time I made a suggestion to Yellow Dog re: their installer and documentation, I did eventually get a response. It wasn't a critical issue and I felt very satisfied.
hobbyists dream
Didn't a lot of (if not most) OS's and programs start out as hobbyists' dreams?
X-Files started to get caught in a kind of "Lost in Space" mode. Problem, adventure, no resolution, reset to starting point.
The movie is perfect example of this. It had to appeal to non-TV viewers by not being too convoluted. OTOH, it couldn't really change anything because it would void the upcoming season. Thus, the kind of "it was all just a bad dream" dynamic that started to take over.
IIRC, the plan was to have one season after the first film, then finis. The show would end, but allow periodic films that would really get things rolling. The various Trek franchises have proven the workability of this.
It seems Carter got greedy or scared. Either he wanted to keep the TV power he had, or he was afraid to give up his baby and make a serious jump to films and real plot development/resolution. The show has just been wallowing in a lot bad horror type crap lately (Didja see Dogget get amnesia from some fiendish soul sucker? Puh-leeze!)
I miss the dark paranoid tone of cancer man, aliens, conspiracy that was so cool. Is there any possibility that Carter can resurrect that on film? I dunno, but every new episode reduces the chances.
Just too bad; fine performances in the characters of Dogget and Reyes. Too bad they are wasted on lame plots.
Absolutely right and far more interesting than the fact that Oracle has security flaws. So, now what? A few thoughts...
Ditch the Anonymous Coward posts. Just have multiple accounts and accountability for each of them.
User moderation doesn't seem to be such a terrible idea, just poorly implemented. Reconsider how moderator points are allotted. Who gets points, why, and how many?
OTOH, moderation can be just a quick, mindless way of dissing people without adding anything to the discussion. Responding creatively would make the whole shebang a lot more interesting.
Any other ideas?
I don't think you can make the general voting populace care about open source as a campaign issue. It will just distract from your other (I hope) sound campaign stances.
OTOH, campaigns aren't won by getting all the votes, just by getting enough. Elections can be decided by a slim margin. Will 400 more votes make the difference for you? Maybe.
You can talk about open source to the right people; LUGs, CS students at local schools, IT/tech workers, etc. Target your open source msg to these folks and bring in non-voters or sway fence-sitters in these groups.
Once you win, push open source solutions to save money. Tax payers love saving money on gov't budgets. You can then use this goodwill/political capital to get things done and/or continue to serve in gov't.
I smell a job opportunity
Jobs at Hancom in English And these are only the current US listings. Korea anybody? The food is awesome!