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A Serious Contender for the Couch Throne

TractorJector writes "It is no secret that the competition for global domination in the operating system market has moved from the desktop to the living room couch. The Olive Symphony, a Linux-powered hi-fi wi-fi stereo hub, stands a decent chance for a prime position before the living room throne."

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  1. So... uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Really... why do I need a "stereo hub"?

    I've got a stereo. Is that not good enough?

    This doesn't seem like it will be very likely to bring linux to the masses. Anyone who is enough of a technophile to be able to find a use for this thing already probably knows what linux is already.

    1. Re:So... uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      i'll tell you why - i have a VCR, a DVD player, a CD changer, a game cube, a receiver, and a digital cable box. this is not an uncommon setup. i have four remotes, and going from watching a movie to playing a game, or to recording a tv show, or to doing anything else involves a nightmarish process of changing the receiver to AUX1, or to VID2, or changing the audio output to dolby 5.1, or changing the aspect ratio on the TV to...

      imagine if you had to go through this same process on your PC every time you wanted to go from listening to an mp3 to watching a video. it's insane.

      you see where i'm going? all of these machines are dumb - none of them talk to each other. if i put in a DVD, i want the TV and all the audio components to know what's going on. if i turn on the game cube, i want the components to know what's going on. that's what this machine does - it makes stuff just work out of the box.

  2. Oh Joy! An MP3 player! by Suicyco · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really, isn't that all this is? Its a networked mp3 player that looks like a stereo component - because it is, but whats the big deal? It has linux?

    What "throne" is it supposed to capture? Networked dvd players do this, plus they play movies. A mythtv box does much more.

  3. Hmm by pmdata · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For $899 it better deliver my morning toast. I'm all for linux, but isn't the whole idea open source, low cost and "do it yourself"?

    1. Re:Hmm by strider44 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm all for linux, but isn't the whole idea open source, low cost and "do it yourself"?

      Where did you get that idea? It's just about code efficiency - if someone's already invented the wheel why keep on reinventing it over and over again.

      As for low cost, Cisco routers run linux, the top supercomputer in the world runs linux, Google's server farm runs linux. I'm not sure that "low cost and do it yourself" is really that much of a part of the open source requirements.

  4. Serious contender? Not hardly. by Quarters · · Score: 4, Insightful
    It's a streaming MP3 player with a job/shutle dial, a menu system not unlike an iPod, and a CD burner.

    Why would I be more interested in that than, say, a $99 Tivo that can stream MP3s, has an accessible UI, and can also record video.

  5. Does anyone remember the time by multiplexo · · Score: 5, Insightful
    When /. actually contained useful news stories about the tech industry and other areas of interest to geeks? I seem to recall such a time in the past. Now we have duplicate stories, stupid questions in ask /. and blatant product placements such as this one. It's a friggin audio player that uses embedded Linux. Big fucking deal! Nothing to see here folks. Move along. And if TractorJector had actually looked at the website he would have seen that the software to control the beast is proprietary and only available on MacOS X.

    Would it be too much to ask the "editors" of /. to stop posting stories of the form "There is a new device X out there that is controlled by Linux. Look out Microsoft/MPAA/RIAA/TSA/CIA/FBI/DoJ/Apple whoever because they're soon going to 0wnz0r all of your base!". I mean really, the fact that someone has come out with an MP3 player that is controlled via embeded Linux isn't news. It might have been eight years ago, but it isn't in 2005.

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    1. Re:Does anyone remember the time by 0x0000 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      When /. actually contained useful news stories about the tech industry and other areas of interest to geeks?

      Yeah - it was before Microsoft invested so heavily in it. Surprise surprise.

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    2. Re:Does anyone remember the time by Crashmarik · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wish I didn't have to agree.

      How did this story make the front page ? Who is it of interest to ?

      Are the editors or publishers of slashdot taking payola to post stories ? It was bad enough when the politics section went online as an extension of americans comng together. Now one after another stories about gadgets that only venture capitalists stupid enough to fund pets.com, or to think that cisco is worth more than GE could believe.

      900 bucks for a freaking MP3 player, that also handles flac ??? Is this news for stupid nerds ? 300 bucks buys you a dell with a monitor, 150 bucks buys you an audigy 2 platinum a remote control. And if you want the non evil record label go out to magnatune. (www.magnatune.com) So for half the price you have a device that does everything this does, plays video, plays formats this doesnt, does it without the DRM ( no freaking kowtowing to asshats that would put locks in your brain to keep you remembering songs).

      So the glorious editors at slashdot have deduced this is going to make bill gates quake in his italian leather boots. I don't think so

  6. Re:hi-fi wi-fi by Dominatus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wifi has been a term for years, are you just now seeing it?

  7. Re:Squeezebox here... by snarlydwarf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    exactly.. I dont see anything special about this box other than the price.. but then the page is completely devoid of facts but filled with lots of fancy flash..

    One of the many advantages of Open Source is that you can see the real feature set... too bad their web page doesnt list it.

    (ie, they say it does wireless: what wireless? 802.11a, b, g? Encryption? Which?)

    Slim on the other hand, tells exactly what the features are and you can download the server and an emulator to play with.

  8. To all the "too expensive!" threads. by copponex · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you want Linux to win some mindshare, you can't shoot down every company that tries to make money with it.

    Consider, for a moment, that it has DA and AD converters that are more than standard. Consider that it can stream to multiple sources wirelessly without having to learn how to use ndiswrapper.

    A year ago you all shelled out $600 for an iPod that had color. Is $300 more too much to spend on something that probably sounds better, and may offer many more features for a home sound system?

  9. Re:At 900$, where's the value? by Your+Pal+Dave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The big difference between this and an iPod (or most of the other players mentioned by other posters) is that this thing is completely stand-alone, no other computer is required.

    This thing will rip its own CDs and provides its own storage. The iPod will provide storage, but you still need a computer to get music into it somehow, be it ripping CDs or downloading from iTMS. Many of the devices mentioned by other posters don't even have on-board storage, requiring a computer set up as a music server.

    Not that this is much of an advantage to your average slashdotter, but an non-techie looking for a music appliance might find it very appealing. It remains to be seen if there is much of a market at the $900 price point, though.

  10. I'm confused... by ruiner13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They are marketing this as the audiophile's music player, yet no where in their datasheet do they list the signal to noise ratio this thing uses. They also say it has a unique playlist editor, but from what I can tell, it is just a rehashed version of the iTunes interface, complete with "smart" playlists. For $900, this thing seems way overpriced and way under-innovated. It uses industry standard parts; CD-R, 2.5" notebook HD, and most likely a 4x 10/100 PCI NIC. From the sounds of the headline, I was expecting a small form-factor computer that could go in my entertainment center. This is the price of one, but without the actual computer. They say it uses a "lossless" compression, which just turns out to be FLAC. How did this make the front page? I don't even see where it says it runs Linux... It just says it uses a PowerPC chip, and considering how aligned they seem to be to Mac OS X, I would not be surprised to find it running that instead.

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  11. Re:hi-fi wi-fi by moonbender · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hm. I agree that Wifi is an incredibly dumb name, but I don't mind the -gate naming convention to indicate a scandal. Obviously it's not logical, but from what I gathered in 4 years of studying linguistics, language isn't logical very often. And with -gate at least I can see where it's coming from, also typically the usage is at least somewhat humorous (as in "Coffeegate" for the recent GTA "issue"). Wifi is just nonsensical, or worse a result from an odd ignorance about the term Hi-Fi.

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  12. Re:Because audiophiles have a lot of money... by Quarters · · Score: 3, Insightful
    As an audiophile and someone who sells equipment and music to audiophiles, I can vouch that this is EXACTLY what they want.

    You just defined the product in a way that will guarantee that it isn't a mass market winner. No niche product marketed to a select few with arguably better ears and money to burn will ever gain the "couch throne" (or whatever equally ridiculous faux title the article used).