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Best Way to Handle Email for a Small Domain?

CorkBobbingInTheSeaOfLife asks: "Our company just had its bi-annual email crisis/outage, so my boss wants to try something new -- to give me the 'opportunity' to figure out and implement a better way to host our small domain's email. We've changed hosts a few times, but whether we spend a little money or a lot none have been as reliable as we've liked -- companies fold, get blacklisted by AOL, and so forth. Is there a way to be smart about this, without hiring a dedicated email server pro? Do reliable email hosts actually exist? Should we run 'email appliance' software (such as ClarkConnect or E-Smith) on our own server? I'd appreciate any tips here - hell hath no fury like people without email, and I am very afraid..."

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  1. Simple Answers... by Jhon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sometimes the "simple" answers are the best. Yes, run your own email server. It doesn't have to be E-Smith, you could run your own flavor of *nix. Set up Mailscanner/SpamAssassin/[Generic Virus Scanner] and your users will be fairly safe and happy.

    You can also set up something like OpenWebMail and allow them to access email from the web. Even via HTTPS, if you like.

    Further, if you have an INTERNET outage, your people IN OFFICE will still have access to their email accounts. That translates as no immidate "I cant access my email" whines. And if ARIN.net lists your company (or you) as the authority, you can PERSONALLY deal with any major ISP to resolve blacklistings. I've had RoadRunner, AOL and ATTWORLDNET blacklist a series of IPs within which our email server happens to reside -- each of those were resolved within 24 hours.

    Important Notes:

    Be sure (PRACTICE!) that you know how to back up and restore your system.

    Unless they NEED shell access, point all users to /bin/false.

    Shut off EVERY service you do not NEED.

    Cheap/Easy IDS: Personally, I like portsentry + SSH on non-standard ports. Your system would need to be scanned to find your SSH server... and portsentry would ban IPs trying to scan. It's not 100%, but will keep out the script kiddies.

    1. Re:Simple Answers... by Momoru · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I did this same thing, but be warned, I would not trust this scenario if your company does not have it's own data center or you don't plan on hosting it in a data center (ie, don't setup the email server under your desk). One 24 hour span without power or internet and you won't get the chance for "anymore of your bright ideas". There are lots of reputable companies that do email hosting for small businesses that don't charge much, and handle all the backup, power, liability etc for you. Such as register.com or godaddy.com and a handful of others. If the blacklisting from AOL with those providers is a problem, setting up your own SMTP server is much less of a hassle.

    2. Re:Simple Answers... by Jhon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your points are valid, but for a small domain, running their own email server can be pretty appealing.

      Most of the problems associated with an outage (power or network) can be handled with an MX backup service. It wont save you from a natural disaster that takes out your business, but it'll handle the 24-hour power failures...

    3. Re:Simple Answers... by A.K.A_Magnet · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unless they NEED shell access, point all users to /bin/false.

      If you don't want to give shell access, don't give an account at all. Create a dummy account (e.g mail-users), and let Postfix manage virtual users linked to this dummy account.

      Postfix can manage virtual users pretty easily, and can store them the way you like (e.g, if you want to manage your addresses with a web interface, postfix-mysql is adapted, if you use LDAP, you can use postfix-ldap, etc..)

      That way, you can have users with a mail on a single virtual host managed by postfix, instead of local users who have their mail on every vhost and IPs bound by Postfix (or any other mail daemon for that matter, since it is the old way mailds work).

    4. Re:Simple Answers... by secolactico · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Very good points, to which I'll add what I probably shouldn't:

      Make sure you know what you are doing. If this is your first e-mail setup, don't throw yourself into the water before testing several possible scenarios.

      Service doesn't come up?
      Service is up but doesn't answer to SMTP requests?
      SMTP is up, but email is being rejected?
      Emails are received but never get to the appropiate mailbox?

      etc, etc.

      Make sure you know how to trace an email using your server logs. Make sure you know how to emulate an SMTP session by hand (telnet to smtp port)

      Like Jhon said, practice backup and restore. This can't be stressed enough. Every so often, try a restore from scratch (bare metal restore) to an unused machine. Make sure you keep spares handy.

      Make arrangements with somebody to keep a mail fallback server (your ISP might offer this service) just in case your network goes down.

      If you don't have the bandwidth, think twice about hosting your own email. Spam attacks, joe jobs, virus outbreaks can clog your pipes.

      Simple answers are the best. But if you don't have the know-how or won't hire somebody with the know-how, the simplest answer is to keep outsourcing your email.

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    5. Re:Simple Answers... by hackstraw · · Score: 2, Informative

      Your points are valid, but for a small domain, running their own email server can be pretty appealing.

      Most of the problems associated with an outage (power or network) can be handled with an MX backup service. It wont save you from a natural disaster that takes out your business, but it'll handle the 24-hour power failures...


      Most companies don't work in the dark and without power. If this one does, they most likely have backup power of some kind as well, so if email is that important even when the power is out, odds are they will still be able to power a mail server and some network gear.

      If they are not operating when the power is out, every mail system I've worked with will keep retrying a down server for 5 days or so. Email is pretty robust. You might loose some spam from zombied machines that directly connect to your mail server for a few days, but I hope that is not part of their business agenda.

    6. Re:Simple Answers... by booch · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I would NEVER use a backup MX server. They typically don't filter spam, so spammers send all their spam to your backup MX record, even when the primary is up. Then your filtering software sees that the message is coming via the backup MX server, and doesn't need to (and can't) do any IP-based filtering.

      Maybe if you found a backup MX host that did proper filtering. But then why not have them host your email?

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    7. Re:Simple Answers... by Trepalium · · Score: 2, Informative
      SpamAssassin still works fine for backup MX delivered mail, provided you set the trusted hosts up correctly in the configuration file. What really breaks with this is RBL spam filtering that tests based on the incoming IP, or greylisting. SA's spam tests are performed on the headers, so the actual originating host is less important.

      Another problem with using backup MXs is the extra traffic generated by bounces for invalid recipients. Some poorly implemented RBL services have been known to blacklist you for bouncing spam or viruses.

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  2. QmailToaster by DA-MAN · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My recommendation would be to run a QmailToaster from http://www.qmailtoaster.com/. I've run this for three years, it's very simple and easy to use. There are scripts that will install the entire setup from beginning to end.

    Then you can get a company like postini or dyndns.org or something to act as a backup mail server in case yours is down.

    I'd recommend joining the QmailToaster mailing list first, to get a feel of the community.

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  3. Re:DreamHost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Or you can just use http://www.dreamhost.com/ so the above person doesn't make like a hundred bucks off of you.

  4. Things that I've seen work.... by tekiegreg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you're less 50 users, might just want to consider bringing the email in-house. Find a server that can stay up, install BSD and Postfix on it, and you're good to go. If you want windows, go with Windows 2003 server and a copy of Imail.

    Don't want the job of handling email? Handyhosting has been relatively trouble free for 3 years now. I've also had good experiences with Linkline at my former job.

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    1. Re:Things that I've seen work.... by turbidostato · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Agreed, install Postfix, and hire yourself a competant Postfix admin for 10 hours/week (whether he works them or not)."

      Go the other way around. Go and hire a competant sysadmin and pay him whatever he sees fit for installing Postfix+[POP | IMAP] server+explain to you basic administration, and then pay no more than 1 hour/week of day-to-day administration. If the one you want to hire doesn't like the bussiness you immediatly know he is not the person you want to installing the system: a properly installed e-mail server doesn't need more than half an hour/week to maintain (and I'm being generous), so if someone asks for much more than this, you know it is one that doesn't know how to properly server your bussiness.

  5. gmail by Gherald · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Get everyone a gmail account, and forward their old addresses to there.

    The price is free, the features are good, and the drawbacks are negligeable if you set everyone up with a good .sig including the business name, phone, etc.

  6. Re:DreamHost by Bob+Wehadababyitsabo · · Score: 3, Informative

    I second this. I've been w/ them since 1999, and have only suffered about 48 hours of downtime in those 6 years. That's not 9 9's of reliability (actually it's 3 :-), but I don't think you will find a better host for the price.

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  7. What about Microsoft Exchange? by ka9dgx · · Score: 3, Informative
    At the risk of buring a hole through my asbestos firewall: Have you considered Microsoft Exchange and Outlook? It has a very rich feature, can be accessed via a Web form, and Microsoft makes things pretty darn easy to administer.

    There are other requirements for any mail solution you'll ignore at your peril:

    • Backups - Make them and test them
    • Virus Scanner - Even a Linux house needs to worry about Macro Virii, etc.
    • Spam Filter - Sometimes comes with the virus scanner
    • Firewall - You need one anyway, make sure it's not based on the same OS as your server
    • Data center environment, such as cooling, conditioned power, physical security are all good things to have
    • Backups - Make some more, test them again
    --Mike--
    1. Re:What about Microsoft Exchange? by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 2, Informative

      Have you considered Microsoft Exchange and Outlook? It has a very rich feature, can be accessed via a Web form, and Microsoft makes things pretty darn easy to administer.

      Please tell that to my sysadmin. We've had two major failures in the last two weeks, both with some data loss and both resulting in messages being silently dropped for a period of time. Add to that a very poorly designed web interface, and being locked into a small subset of mail clients, some of which only implement a limited subset of the features, and very, very shoddy support for non-windows OS's. We're still running Exchange servers for some users but most everyone in engineering transitioned over to our parallel deployment of IMAP servers.

      The rest of your comments are spot on though. Also, don't forget to keep careful track of the logs for the webmail and be careful about the spam filtering for inexperienced users. Overly strict spam filtering has lost many a sale. Don't forget to have a mandatory informational meeting about not opening suspicious attachments and phishing too. Eventually a virus or phishing e-mail will get to your users so make sure they know what to do about it.

    2. Re:What about Microsoft Exchange? by kayen_telva · · Score: 3, Interesting

      exchange is only useful if you need the shared calendaring/scheduling/etc that it provides.
      otherwise, a linux box running courier-imap, your choice of webmail interface, and exim/postfix/etc is going to be a LOT cheaper
      and the free solution does not have the artificial 16gb limit on storage (soon to be 75)
      outlook works wonderfully with courier-imap.
      just make sure you have a REALLY nice battery backup on all parts of the wan connection and the email server so when the lights go out, the mail keeps flowing...and a backup MX record too

  8. Google please help by Leknor · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It would rock if you could simply point your MX records at smtp.google.com and let them do the rest. We get a great webmail, Google gets loyal customers.

  9. A few options by j-turkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As outlined in earlier posts, you have quite a few options when it comes to email service.

    You can have it hosted. This is probably the easiest option. It sounds like you've had some bad experiences with this, and may be wary of it. You will have the best luck going with larger, more established hosts that embrace modern technology and have a strong, well documented, and well enforced AUP (that bans all kinds of spamming).

    The second option has also been mentioned. Run a small Unix-based email service out of your office. This is probably the cheapest option, and depending on whom you compare it to, day-to-day management and troubleshooting can be quicker than a hosted service.

    The third option is going to be an unpopular one with the Slashdot crowd (and in some cases, understandably so). Check out Microsoft Exchange (try the one bundled with Small Business Server). There are other groupware applications out there, and some (like Novell/SUSE's OpenExchange) are worth consideration...but nothing is Exchange. If you're already a Microsoft shop, you should definitely consider it as it integrates well with the MSFT software that you already have. Of course, it's budget dependant (and is an expensive platform to use). In your case with a small shop and limited experience, I would have a third party come in and set it up for you, and sign up for a service contract.

    For an end user (especially management types), Exchange has every feature under the sun. It would help if you identified your goals (specifically budget and featureset desired) and then decide on what product is best for you. However, I would advise you to leave no option off the table, even if you have personal issues with the software. Also, all of these options are available as hosted solutions. However, it's important to weigh out both the benefits and drawbacks to hosting. Benefits are relatively obvious, and some drawbacks are that you lose control over your service, and certain quick tasks (like a password change) can take hours or even a full day for them to get around to.

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  10. Move on. by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 2, Informative

    What's wrong with the above person making a commission? Well, absolutely nothing. You make it sound like telemarketing or something, when it's not even in the same ballpark. It's not like the end user gets a lower price. There is nothing ethically wrong with affiliate programs. Move on, spend your time grousing about things that matter.

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  11. Courier MTA by psicat · · Score: 2, Informative

    I would suggest RedHat or CentOS running CourierMTA http://www.courier-mta.org/.

    The standard Courier bundle has everything you need for a mail server (web administration, webmail, imap4, pop3, TLS/SSL, filtering, mail lists, fax support, etc...). If desired, all you need to add is SpamAssassin and a virus scanner. I have been running this combo for years with great results.

    -Nathan

  12. Balancing the Cost/Benefit by GangstaLean · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Really, there are certain costs with DIY vs. hosted. They are:

    DIY
    • Always have access to mail, even if internet is down
    • Granular control over routing, message groups, etc.
    • Control over spam solutions

    Hosted
    • Someone else does the backup
    • Access to some higher end features w/o the work
    • Groupware functionality w/o the work
    • Webmail already solved for you


    I ran my own mail server for my various domains, and have set up mail servers for companies. currently I'm using Fusemail for my personal and consulting email, and I'm starting to think that I would recommend it for most small companies.

    The reason behind this is, I don't have the time to do the administration myself. I have other work priorities, and messing around with a server all the time is not one of them. The other benefits are, network synchronization of calendar, IMAP, server side sorting, and eventually Outlook pluggability (good for PDA users).

    You can do this stuff yourself, but it takes time and is not always reliable. The down side of picking an external provider is, when your internet goes down, email is down, even internally. That can hurt a company and your credibility.

    With that said, I would look potentially at email service providers (not web hosting providers) for an external solution, and probably exchange for an internal solution with groupware, and other unix solutions for internal email without groupware.

    What you need to decide is how much responsibility you want for being the point person on email. If you're already afraid of the result, better to hire a domain expert, and one that's been in business. Get a good SLA (service level agreement), and assure that your internet connection is either redundant or up most of the time.

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    1. Re:Balancing the Cost/Benefit by FooAtWFU · · Score: 2, Informative
      Webmail already solved for you

      As opposed to the ever-so-tedious process of installing, say, SquirrelMail? I mean, it's not like it comes with major operating systems like Fedora or anything...

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  13. No mention of Mac OS X Server yet? by blindseer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Look into what Apple has to offer. Mac OS X Server looks very nice. It will run on anything from an old iMac to a Xserve G5. It features spam filtering, web mail, anti-virus, and encrypted connections.

    I haven't used Apple's server products since the days of Mac OS 9. I'm just a fan of their products.

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  14. Short answer: No. by AnotherBlackHat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Our company just had its bi-annual email crisis/outage, so my boss wants to try something new -- to give me the 'opportunity' to figure out and implement a better way to host our small domain's email.


    So you're unhappy with 99.5% uptime.
    (assuming that those two outages per year are for a full 24 hours...)


    We've changed hosts a few times, but whether we spend a little money or a lot none have been as reliable as we've liked -- companies fold, get blacklisted by AOL, and so forth.
    Is there a way to be smart about this, without hiring a dedicated email server pro?


    So you're not going to be happy with a solution that involves having someone else do it...


    Do reliable email hosts actually exist?


    There is no such thing as 100% uptime.

    While better than 99.9% uptime hosting does exist,
    you're not likely to find one without doing a lot of work, and even then there will still be outages.

    There isn't an ISP in existance that will both let a random company do email, and not be on some blacklist somewhere.


    Should we run 'email appliance' software (such as ClarkConnect or E-Smith) on our own server? I'd appreciate any tips here - hell hath no fury like people without email, and I am very afraid..."


    Best advice I can offer is to tell your boss that despite the problems you've had with [best service provider to date], there aren't any better solutions available, and you recommend living with the problems, rather than dealing with a whole new set of problems.
    Anything else would set you up as the fall guy when email breaks in the future.

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  15. Re:DreamHost by tang · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you go with Dreamhost be aware of the following things:
    They WILL NOT get back to you with a service problem within the same work day, unless every site they are hosting is having problems. There is no way to contact them by phone, unless you email them and request them to call you at a certain time, but that certain time always has to be the next day for them to actually call you.

    I have had email go out 4 times in the past year. Each time it was only down for 1-2 hours. However, not only was mail not received, but the mail BOUNCED. Not only was I dealing with people in the company not getting email, I was getting email from users trying to contact people at our company wondering why mail to our company is bouncing. After each of these occurances I asked them what happened and if it was corrected. They actually would tell me they don't know what caused it, and they don't know how they fixed it.
    Very frustrating, since It keeps happening. The only good news is, when this problem occurs many sites are affected, so they resolve it within a few hours.
    Another issue is that to create a new email or user account you have to use their web interface, and the lag time between when you hit submit on the website and when the user can get mail has been 5-6 hours for the past several months. It still says the delay is only 2 hours on the website, but it is incorrect.

    There are many many other small things that annoy me, I was thinking about moving the company site and email off dreamhost, but I got a new position where I do not have any responsibility for this stuff.
    It is VERY frustrating. I would 100% recommend Dreamhost for a personal server due to their cheap price and good features. However, for a commercial business it is VERY frustrating having noone to deal with for several hours when things go wrong.

  16. Advice by dodobh · · Score: 3, Informative

    Disclaimer: I work for a _very_ large email hosting company. If you have less than a few thousand users, don't even think about hosting with us.

    Your choices will depend on budget and administrative flexibility.

    1> Outsourced hosting: This is probably the easiest and cheapest method available. However, it is also likely that if your hoster is primarily a webhost, you will be hurt by someone else putting up bad scripts or software on the same box.
    Going with companies dedicated to hosting email is probably a better choice.

    2> Running your own server colocated in a datacentre: This gives you full control on the box, and attendant responsibility. If you choose your hosting company properly, you will find that you can email almost anywhere. (There _are_ people who will block even large hosts with very little justification).

    3> Do it inhouse: You need minimal business class connectivity (permission to run servers, static IP and proper reverse DNS). Hire someone to setup the box for you, or use an appliance. Using a non appliance box gives you more flexibility, but some more responsibility as well.

    What you need to do is decide on
    a) What OS/distribution to use.
    b) Which MTA to use
    c) Which IMAP server to use.

    I would go with a well supported Linux distribution (RedHat/SuSE for the commercial, Debian for free) or a FreeBSD 4.x box. My personal MTA of choice is Postfix, with Courier-IMAP doing POP3 and IMAP with webmail served by Squirrelmail.

    If you _need_ a web based UI for management, use Webmin.

    For spam filtering, SpamAssassin and Clamav for the antivirus. Wrap both these with amavisd-new.

    The documentation for all these products is excellent, and plugging stuff in is trivial.

    Your (Free) alternatives for MTA are: Exim, Qmail, Sendmail.
    For the IMAP server: Cyrus, Dovecot and UW-IMAP.

    Some people here recommend a backup MX. I would suggest avoiding the backup MX, since mail is queued for 5 days normally. If you have downtime > 5 days, you have bigger problems.

    The cost of doing this inhouse would be in terms of the time you spend in updating packages and reading the documentation.

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