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Ogg Vorbis Share Reaches 12.3% on P2P Traffic

prostoalex writes "According to CacheLogic survey, 61.44% of the peer-to-peer traffic nowadays is video, with audio taking distant second place, representing 11.34% of global traffic. Moreover, 12.3% of all the music files traded on P2P networks are in Ogg format. Almost all of the OGG files are traded via BitTorrent protocol with most of the growth coming from Asia, CacheLogic says."

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  1. Downloading Garbage by bigwavejas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Percentage figures like these are going to spell doom for torrents. They're going to do nothing but light a big fire under the MPAA and RIAA's asses (Not like they needed it). Expect more fake/ spoofed files masquerading as legitimate movies/ music. People should start thinking about using some bolt-on software for their EDonkey (or ??), much like http://donkeyfakes.gambri.net/ ,or they're going to be downloading a lot of Garbage (and not the Shirley Manson type either).

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    1. Re:Downloading Garbage by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why do you automatically assume it's copyright-infringed music? Moreover, why do you assume it belongs to the RIAA or MPAA? Considering that it's "mostly in Asia" it could very well be legally-copied (or infringed from organizations other than the RIAA) Asian music.

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    2. Re:Downloading Garbage by ZephyrXero · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually many smaller/independent artists release all, or a large portion of their music for free on their websites...usually at a lower quality of compression, but free none the less... It's a great way to let people hear your music if you don't have the thousand$ to pay for play on the radio ;)

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    3. Re:Downloading Garbage by dal20402 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You don't need money to express yourself. You don't need to get money for expressing yourself.

      Maybe not... but if you spend 40 hours a week doing something totally unrelated to your art so you can survive, the quality of your art will suffer, unless you are a frenetically energetic genius.

      The world needs more full-time artists, not less. And it certainly has the wealth -- and is willing to spend it -- to support them. Now if we just had a reasonable model for music distribution, that didn't create a few millionaire artists and a lot of millionare executives at everyone else's expense...

    4. Re:Downloading Garbage by taxevader · · Score: 1, Insightful

      " Off hand, i'd say a lot? Ayu, Hikki, all the idol singers, etc have a large circulation. Not to mention cpop and kpop like BoA with followings all over. "

      What you fail to mention is that all these acts copy exactly what the NA crap machine spewed out 6 months ago. Whatever Britney does, expect the local manufactured singer/band to do, albeit a few months later. Same shit, different smell.

      That said, BT p2p downloads in these countries (ie not corporate-driven ones like iTunes) pretty much have an equal number of local and foreign content. If its in the top 20 of either the US or the country in question, the sheep will be downloading the garbage that passes for popular music in equal amounts. I know this because I have done surveys in this area.

      Modern popular music is at its lowest point in history.

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  2. Go Ogg! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Better compression, better sound, better freedom. 'Nuf said.

  3. Wow by okayplayer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Open source music on open source protocols... Who would have thunk?

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  4. Traffic statistics by Paska · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > According to CacheLogic survey, 61.44% of the peer-to-peer traffic nowadays is video, with audio taking distant second place, representing 11.34% of global traffic.

    Is this really a huge shock? After all your average movie is (let's just say) 500 megabyte, with your average song at around 2 megabyte - of course video traffic is going to outweigh audio downloads by a great amount.

  5. That still means a lot more music files by Alphanos · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "According to CacheLogic survey, 61.44% of the peer-to-peer traffic nowadays is video, with audio taking distant second place, representing 11.34% of global traffic."

    If we assume that the average audio file is 5MB, which is probably too large, then there would only be a file-to-file equivalence if the average video file was less than 30MB, which is very small. You can't fit a single half-hour episode of some anime show into 30MB unless you have ridiculously poor quality. So it's reasonable to conclude that a much greater number of audio files are being traded, and video files use more bandwidth because video files are bigger, rather than because video files are more popular than audio files. An actual ratio would require data on the size of the average traded video file.

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  6. Re:OGG by hungrygrue · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Both are closed formats. To the best of my knowledge, the only way to play wma files under Linux/BSD is to use Microsoft's DLL files which is illegal (Though if you have a legal copy of Windows I suppose that is a grey area. I and many other Linux users, however, do not own or use Windows). MP3 support requires a license fee http://mp3licensing.com/ OGG is an open standard with no strings or restrictions.

  7. Re:Convert all of your mp3s today by mslinux · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can't tell a difference. Go figure.

  8. Re:the apple cock tastes fine by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just because a player plays the 'standard' formats does not make it superior. Look at iPodLinux... it has an ogg player. The only reason most standalone mp3 players don't have ogg support is because the developers wrongly think that it's a completely marginal format, which is becoming increasingly untrue.

    If ONE developer would include ogg support, then it would become even more popular and accepted.

    And the only reason most people still use mp3 is because, unlike mp3 (which is proprietary), ogg is open-source. Microsoft seems to go out of their way to exclude open-source.

  9. Re:OGG by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    as I understand it [the LAME programmers] haven't paid a penny to the creators of MP3

    ...yet.

  10. Re:Slightly OT by modecx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, and that's also the reason Clear Channel pumps up the bass on their broadcasts, as far as I can figure... To make people with sad-ass stereos happy.

    Seriosuly, even the female on one of my long time favorite morning shows spikes down in the 100Hz area after they fuck with it, and she's a 4 foot nothin asian lady, but she soulds like she's an 8' tall amazon. The guys on the show sound like barry white, and I've met them personally--they sound normal! Normal talking voice should not come through the subwoofer with an 80Hz filter! It's not natrual. Practically nobody sounds that way, and if they do they're probably deformed!

    It pisses me off to no end because I have to adjust my EQ if I want to listen to them (and not have my brains turned to liquid, mind you)--and I don't like to do that, I really like to keep my stereo's levels balanced!

    Oh well, since they've turned libertarian and started shouting at kids to "get off my damn lawn!" they're not so fun to listen to anymore.

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