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SFEley (Stephen Eley) writes "Todd Cochrane's Podcasting: The Do-It-Yourself Guide has been heavily pushed in the podcasting community as the first of a wave of podcasting books to be released in the next several months. All of these books will surely cover the same themes, more or less: what podcasts are, how to listen to them, and how to produce your own. The popularity of podcasting is exploding right now, with coverage in every press outlet and Apple hyping it as The Next Big Thing. It's easy to see that there will be a huge demand for these books, even if they don't do much more than state the obvious. So what about this one? Other than being the first, does it offer any compelling virtues for the would-be podcaster or listener?" Read on for Eley's answer to that question. Podcasting: Do-It-Yourself Pirate Radio for the Masses author Todd Cochrane pages 281 publisher Wiley rating 4 reviewer Stephen Eley ISBN 0764597787 summary How to find, record, and publish podcasts

Before we can even begin to talk about the book, we ought to cover the preliminaries. If you've been living under a rock for most of 2005, you may not know that podcasting is the latest Internet publishing wave, getting most of the same hype that blogging has gotten but much faster. In its simplest form, it's just people producing audio files (talk, music, whatever) and syndicating them over an RSS feed. Listeners can then use one of several apps to automatically download them and load them onto an MP3 player. The mainstream media, feeling some embarrassment for missing the last few Web boats, has jumped on podcasting and given it, frankly, a lot more press than it probably deserves right now.

A note on the author: Todd Cochrane produces Geek News Central, a very popular tech podcast wherein he reads out news headlines and offers commentary. He also founded and manages the Tech Podcast Network, a consortium of other technology podcasts that band together for cross-promotion, content standards and advertising, and he's the main force behind the heavily advertised and sponsored Podcast Awards. It's fair to say that Cochrane has done a lot for podcasters in various ways, and although I've disagreed with him on some of the details of his projects, I respect him highly for his tremendous energy and the work he's done to make podcasting a respectable form of media.

Another note (and disclaimer) on myself: I also have my own podcast, a moderately popular one that narrates science fiction short stories. In a practical sense this makes me both a podcaster and a literary editor. Which means, in turn, that I have a sensitivity both to poor information on podcasting and poor writing.

And with all that said... I'm afraid Podcasting: The Do-It-Yourself Guide is a marginal book at best. It doesn't suck, and there's nothing horribly wrong with the information it gives, but it has two endemic problems. Cochrane's responsible for both, but I put the real blame on his editors at Wiley, who likely ignored them in their rush to get the book out before any others.

The first problem is the writing. It's possible that this bothers me more than it would others. Todd Cochrane may be an intelligent, selfless, wonderful guy -- I truly believe that he is -- but the man can't write. The entire book exhibits a rushed, forced-casual, eighth-grade English paper style that grates on me like nails on a chalkboard. Cochrane even admits this in his acknowledgments: "Early on, I made it clear to Chris [Webb], my acquisitions editor, that I was a geek/tech guy first and that he did not want to see my English grades. Even so, he assured me that I was their man, and I went to work."

Well, Chris Webb, you're a dumbass. You picked someone who admitted he couldn't write to write a book on a breakthrough technology. As a result, the book is vague, meandering, and frequently redundant, e.g.: "You will want to use this Recording Control window to control your default recording device." That phrase ("You will want to ...") crops up everywhere: the book's not only in second person, but it's a second person that tells the reader what he/she wants. The only sentence opener that appears more often is "Obviously" -- which frequently precedes a thought that is neither obvious nor related to the sentence before it.

You will also want to ignore the poor punctuation and comma splices, the frequent intersplicing of Notes and Tips paragraphs that seem indistinguishable (in both font and content) from the main text, and very often, the simple use of the wrong words. In many cases this is simply amusing: "[Dave Winer's] analogy was that it was taking longer to download the video than it was to play it." Uh, that's not an analogy, dude. In at least one case it leads to a technically incorrect statement: "The reading on the software-controlled meter in my audio-recording package showed nearly 40 dB of baseline noise," when what he really meant was a noise floor of -40 dB. Two very different things.

The other major problem is the narrow perspective. It's really Podcasting: The Do-It-Todd-Cochrane's-Way Guide. Everything in this book is about Cochrane. Every example is his own podcast, every screenshot of a Web page is his own, and he's got multiple photos of himself in various dorky situations. Any photos of other podcasters? Mur Lafferty, perhaps, or Soccergirl? You wish. I have no problem with Cochrane using himself as a starting point, but it's a very diverse field, and nobody podcasts with quite the same gear or the same techniques as anybody else. Cochrane says he spent significant time interviewing software developers for the chapters on applications, but there's no indication anywhere that he spoke to any other podcasters in writing this book. That's a huge mistake, rushed deadlines or no rushed deadlines. Not only does it reduce the book's utility, but it also makes the prose seem dreary, monotonic, and egocentric.

So there's my overview. For those who think the book may still have some use to you (and it might, if you can put up with the above) I'll break it down by section:

Part I: Listening to the Podcast Revolution This section has three chapters, and they're useless. The book begins, "Do you have specific interests? How about triathlons? I have to admit, most radio broadcasts don't deal with those kind of subjects. But that's about to change." Yeah, okay. The problem here (beyond the clumsy writing) should be obvious: if you have no idea what podcasting is, you're not interested enough to buy a book on podcasting. The first chapter, "What Is a Podcast?" has Cochrane spiraling around the subject of podcasting for twelve pages without ever giving a simple definition. Then we've got two chapters which together describe the leading software tools used to download podcasts, and tutorials for using them to subscribe to -- can you guess? -- Todd Cochrane's podcast. To be fair, it was a pretty decent overview of the major client applications at the time of the book's writing; which means it's already obsolete, as iTunes 4.9 has totally changed the landscape since then. Of course, that can't be helped. The real weakness of this section is its superfluity: if you're willing to pay $20 for a book on podcasting, it's because you want to make podcasts. Even Grandma's not going to buy this book to learn how to listen to them.

Part II: Joining the Revolution: Your Own Podcast Here's where the book starts to get genuinely interesting. The obligatory but stupid chapters on listening to podcasts are behind us; now it's all about making them. The first chapter here, "Choosing a Podcast Format," actually has little to criticize. His basic message is sound: Follow your passions; develop a show structure and follow it; and be aware of copyright issues if you're playing music. All of that is good advice, and his detailed description of his own show structure and notes is appropriate here. This is followed by a completely unnecessary chapter about computer choices, in which he shows his Windows colors and comes off a trifle condescending toward the Mac. ("In researching materials for this book, I found I could not do the reviews justice unless I had a Mac, so I purchased a Mac Mini ... I knew that if I could record a podcast on a Mac Mini, it would probably make the Mac fans happy.") Then, at last, he delivers the first truly crunchy chapter: "The Semiprofessional Podcast Studio." This chapter's honestly very good, running the gamut of sound cards, microphones, mixers, Firewire interfaces (he dismisses USB interfaces rather unfairly), digital recorders, even quiet case fans. Some of it's hand-waved, and some of it's so vague it's just silly: "A condenser microphone is generally never found in households. People might have them, but they usually are not aware that they do." On the other hand, his discussion of quality sound cards does have much of value (barring the "40dB of baseline noise" misstatement I mentioned above), and he gives one of the best descriptions of mixers and effects processors for novices that I've found. If you have no idea what sort of equipment you might need for quality sound in your podcast, you'll get a decent grounding here. Not an excellent grounding, but perhaps enough to parse a little bit more of the serious sound FAQs on the Web.

Part III: Recording Your Podcast and Performing Postproduction Tasks (Yes, the man can't even name things with brevity.) There's one weak chapter here and two great ones. In "Recording Locations," Cochrane reveals that you can podcast at home, in your car, at a restaurant, or walking around. Whee. Then we get to the actual process of recording and postproduction, and the book honestly shines. He describes step-by-step how to set up Audacity (the excellent freeware Win/Mac/Linux sound editor) to record, how to set up a typical mixer, and best of all, how to set levels properly. Levels are the bane of any audio amateur, and these half-dozen pages are gold; it's the one thing a novice podcaster is likely to turn back to and reference several times over in his first few recordings -- or ought to, anyway. His advice on noise reduction, amplifying, and normalizing is spot-on, the steps listed for MP3 encoding are simple but solid, and he even gives several good options for ID3 tagging. (A step too often overlooked by podcasters.) I could complain about a few weird digressions -- e.g., the postproduction chapter tells you how to upload to Openpodcast.org, which is an utterly bizarre thing to advise -- but they're easily ignored, and overall this section truly shines.

Part IV: Hosting and Preparing to Publish Your Podcast This section's ... okay. His chapter on hosting is mostly a treatise on how to evaluate service agreements, which is valuable enough in itself but can be overkill for someone just starting out. There are a few math exercises for estimating bandwidth -- useless when you don't know your potential audience size -- and a brief list of "podcast-friendly hosts" which is, of course, already obsolete. His coverage of publishing methods is about weblog software -- wait, scratch that, it's about MovableType. He's infatuated with MT, and devotes several pages on a step-by-step for hacking MT's code and templates to support enclosures with full-source RSS code listings, then mentions virtually offhand that Wordpress and Radio Userland support enclosures out of the box. This is another case where having multiple podcaster perspectives would have helped. Finally, we get a chapter named "The Life Breath of a Podcast: RSS 2.0 With Enclosures," just barely longer than its title, which covers how to use FeedForAll to hand-crank an RSS file if you don't have blogging software that will make one for you. It might have been a valuable chapter if he'd spent any real time explaining RSS 2.0 or enclosures.

Part V: It's Show Time A closing section that's nearly pointless, but mercifully brief. There's an entire chapter about using graphical FTP clients -- lame because anyone who's that blinking-twelve was lost back at Chapter 6. The meaty chapter is called "Feedback, Promotion, and Paying the Bills," and it has some moderately useful information and some large gaps. Feedback apparently means "have a mailing list and a voicemail line, and hang out on Skype." Okay. Promotion's about directory listings and exchanging promos with other podcasters; then he offers a long commentary on advertising and why it's a fine thing to have. Unfortunately, other than creating a media kit he has nothing much to say on how to contact and market your show to advertisers. And the final chapter of the book, "Where Do We Go From Here?" offers a few vapid musings of the sort all podcasters talk about over beer: we're going to kill mainstream radio, podcasts will band together and commercialize, all the starving children of the world will have an MP3 player ... And Yes, in his final sentences he invokes the already-tired "Podcasting Revolution" chestnut. Not much to say here, but rest assured, he says it.

So there you have it. That's the entire book. Worth buying? That depends. If you're itching to get started with podcasting, if you're an absolute beginner when it comes to sound recording, if the online resources at Podcast411 and other sites don't float your boat, and if you can't wait a few more months for books like Podcast Solutions and Podcasting for Dummies to come out ... then sure. There are at least three or four good chapters in here with information you can use. It's not all the information, and you have to take Cochrane's style and limited viewpoint with a big grain of salt, but it'll get you started. For less than twenty bucks, at least it isn't a high-risk investment.

On the other hand, if you're the bootstrapping type, or you already know most of what you're doing, then there's not much in here you can't figure out online and through experience. And if you're patient, there will be other books, and I'm almost positive they'll be better written.

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132 comments

  1. That's the end of that then by intmainvoid · · Score: 1

    Surely the death knell of any technology is when it finds itself in print!

  2. Great podcast novel by bigwavejas · · Score: 4, Informative

    The very first Podcast novel (which is Unbelievably good IMO) is Earthcore by Scott Sigler and can be downloaded at: http://www.scottsigler.net/earthcore/

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    1. Re:Great podcast novel by Salvo · · Score: 1

      It is a good novel, but it's just concluded. Podcast Clients (or PodCatchers, if you're a buzzword junkie) download from last to first which disrupts the flow of a serialised story. Individual Short Stories, like those presented in Steve Eleys Escape Pod are better suited than serials. They can be presented both individually, or in a serial.

      Getting back to Earthcore; It's exciting, enthralling and free. Would I purchase the Book (which he is selling pre-orders for ATM)? Maybe, but I wouldn't read it again. I would only purchase it to support the Author. His Technical Background is rather flakey at best, a few hours of research could've made is Metallurgical and Geological explanations more consistant.

      Earthcore was a good way to pass the time, and non-tech-geek may get a kick out of it, but anyone who knows much about anything specific will be let down time and time again by his Inconsistent Technical explainations.

    2. Re:Great podcast novel by Taladar · · Score: 1

      These things are called audio books and are quite a few years older than the word abomination "podcasting".

    3. Re:Great podcast novel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Earthcore is the first podcast-ONLY novel, not the first podcast novel.

    4. Re:Great podcast novel by Saeger · · Score: 1
      A "Podcast novel"? Oh, you mean a multi-part audiobook?

      *ahhhhhhh!!! die buzzword die! ah ah ahhhh!!!* /sam kinison

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    5. Re:Great podcast novel by Deton8 · · Score: 1

      I loved that novel. I can also recommend the Screenwriters Podcast if you want to learn about how to write screenplays for TV and film.

    6. Re:Great podcast novel by filenabber · · Score: 1
      Earthcore is freakin' awesome. It'a great story. I highly recommend it. Much better than Cats. I'll listen again and again.

      Brian

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  3. I don't get it... by spyder913 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I still don't get 'podcasting'... blogs are bad enough, but I hate talk radio so I don't think I'd be down with 'talk blogs'.

    I guess I just don't get it cause I don't have an iPod.. maybe I'm not cool enough.

    1. Re:I don't get it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The appeal of blogs and podcasts involves taking an interest in other humans. You don't sound like you'd be interested.

      As far as obtaining an iPod, I recommend asking mom for a bigger allowance.

    2. Re:I don't get it... by Saxerman · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I still don't get 'podcasting'... blogs are bad enough, but I hate talk radio so I don't think I'd be down with 'talk blogs'.

      You might just be missing the signal from all the noise, but in general I actually agree with you. As the bar is so low, I find Sturgeon's Law quite apt in regards to both blogs and podcasts. Even worse, while the better bloggers might go back and edit their text, from the majority of my experience with podcasts I find people have no ability and/or desire to edit their creations. Even those who do have something interesting to say can be painful to listen to as they have little to no ability to orate and a painful lack of audio production experience. Dead air, as they say, kills.

      Regardless, like any other new and growing content medium while we might be inundated with crap for the foreseeable future, this isn't to say it's all pointless or will always be pointless. As better/stronger/faster metafilter sites crop up we will be in a much better position to identify those few podcasters we might actually enjoy.

      Personally I'd rather listen to something informative and/or entertaining while I'm commuting rather than music, so I'm looking forward to the time when I can load up my gizmo of choice with interesting content and listen to it while I'm on the move.

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    3. Re:I don't get it... by anagama · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah -- I'm with you on the ultimate boringness of blogs. There are some cool podcasts though. In about 15 minutes, I'll be walking home from work (about 5 miles, greenway half the way). I did this on Wednessday too. I figure it's a good way to lose a bit of the chub I've been building up sitting at a desk all the time.

      On Wednessday while walking around downtown during lunch, I listened to a slew of "Quirks and Quarks" segments, a CBC radio show about various science topics. Some interesting things on that -- like using aluminum to release the hydrogen from water to power a fuel cell. Aluminum Oxide can be recycled back to aluminum and the process repeated -- no free energy of course, but the guy was talking about an application for laptops that would be about the size of a power brick but would power the computer for 24 hours. Also, the scientist sounded exactly like the mad scientist (played by Max Von Snydow (sp?)) in "Strange Brew". Definitely left an impression. Scroll down for Aluminum Amperage -- oh comes in ogg too.

      On my walk home I listened to skepticality which was OK -- I'm looking forward to listening to the James Randi interview for sure. Although on today's walk, I might listen to NPR's Science Friday.

      Anyway, walking is boring, but listening to science shows and walking is quite a lot of fun. You can avoid the blog-like-crap if you want to.

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    4. Re:I don't get it... by It'sYerMam · · Score: 1
      I think, just as with blogs, podcasts have wheat and chaff - some people with the ability to orate, some who do not. I expect it will be possible to just ignore the chaff, because if there's one thing that grates, it's someone who is unable to speak without many redundant words ('like,' 'know what i'm saying',) repetition and so on. Another thing that grates is people who are unable to write, but there are still some blogs that have content and quality writing.

      Nonetheless, I spend enough time on the internet without needing to cling limpet-like to another source of something; I already have slashdot, webcomics, H*R, forums and so on.

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  4. Here at the UW we podcast with flash cards by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    So, I'm like riding on the bus to work/school at the Dub, and this Husky couple, like guy-guy, well they get on the bus and they're all touchy-feely, which doesn't mean anything cause I'm like from Fremont, and we're so zen we're buddha so you can never tell.

    Anyway, the next stop this girl gets on and this classic moment of iPod zen, she hands her MP3 flash stick - like we're so tech we're past watches cause you just look at your cell if you want a timecheck - anyways, so she hands the stick and the earbuds to one of the guys and goes - this is true, i was like staring cause she's hot in a geek way so i saw it - anyways, she hands it to one of the guys and she'd voice recorded the guy singing karaoke rap and everyone busts out laughing, cause it'll probably be the next band cause she added an electronica dance beat to it, almost uber-house, and everyone loved it.

    so, now it's Podcasting on the web, and i feel kind of bad, cause it wasn't even an apple iPod, it was just a flash MP3 stick like we all buy.

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    1. Re:Here at the UW we podcast with flash cards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the love of God, why do you people begin paragraphs with "So"?

      Try removing the "So, " from your post, putting it into the correct (perfect) case.

    2. Re:Here at the UW we podcast with flash cards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Hot in a geek way", eh? So in other words she's too fat to be a prep but too skinny to be a goth.

      I'm so tech I wipe my ass with a magnet.

    3. Re:Here at the UW we podcast with flash cards by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      "Hot in a geek way", eh? So in other words she's too fat to be a prep but too skinny to be a goth.

      No, it means she's the serious type, fairly slender, tall, and good looking.

      Why, don't you have those around your way?

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  5. No Thanks by nuclearpenguins · · Score: 1

    Why do people wish to hear amature-hour radio? There most likely is a reason why these people aren't syndicated nationally.

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    1. Re:No Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because to get on national radio you either have do...

      Sports Shows with lame gags every week.
      Political Shows where you insult everyone on the other side.

    2. Re:No Thanks by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      There most likely is a reason why these people aren't syndicated nationally.

      Like not bribing the DJs?

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    3. Re:No Thanks by hungrygrue · · Score: 1

      Because a lot of it is *not* amature radio. There is a vast array of public radio programs that offer podcasts. It's like radio Tivo, you can subscribe to feeds for programs that you can't catch on the radio, that aren't offered in your area, or if your memory is as bad as mine that you always forget to catch on the air. Before the podcast, I would always catch the last few minutes of "On The Media" on NPR because I always forgot to turn the radio on at 4:00pm on Saturday.

    4. Re:No Thanks by K1BJF · · Score: 1

      Why would you want to listen to homogenized corporate radio where all the music sounds the same, all the announcers sound the same and all the commercials sound the same up and down the dial? And speaking of commercials... why would you want to listen to five minutes of commercials for every 10 minutes of content? I'll take the new, fresh, different amateur-hour radio any day. More choice is what it's all about.

  6. Stupid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This shouldn't be a book! At least, not a paper book. It should be a Podcast or talking book.

    1. Re:Stupid! by frankthechicken · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I am certainly looking forward to the podcast of "How to listen to a podcast"

    2. Re:Stupid! by w98 · · Score: 1

      Oh, the sweet, sweet irony, of publishing a paper book about talk radio.

    3. Re:Stupid! by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Kinda what I was thinking. He should have just podcasted the book.

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    4. Re:Stupid! by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I am certainly looking forward to the podcast of "How to listen to a podcast"

      When do you think they'll make that into a Books On Tape?

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  7. This is the end, my friends, the only end by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Surely the death knell of any technology is when it finds itself in print!

    Yeah, remember when they started publishing the Gutenburg bible - that killed off printing for like, thousands of years - oh, wait, no, that never happened.

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    1. Re:This is the end, my friends, the only end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't recall the Bible being a book about printing press technology.

    2. Re:This is the end, my friends, the only end by KingSkippus · · Score: 1
      I didn't recall the Bible being a book about printing press technology.

      You obviously missed that verse in Habbakuk.

    3. Re:This is the end, my friends, the only end by mrRay720 · · Score: 1

      Well of course it was.

      We even read about God and Moses putting out a beta version using stone. In Beta 2 it was changed to paper, and hence the dead sea scrolls.

      That religion stuff is just padding.

  8. Podcasting: something to do with the computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Podcasting: something else to do with the computer, but gawd, you have to have a dull life! and slashdot is always there for that.

  9. Woohoo! by Fortyseven · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Let's continue to spread the usage of this riduculous term by encouraging it's usage. YES! Good idea.

  10. Re:Slashdot Declaration of Independence by LowbrowDeluxe · · Score: 1

    In order to perhaps apply some relevance, perhaps you should consider turning your rant into a podcast....

  11. Podcast by brandolomite · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't read books, where can I get the podcast?

    1. Re:Podcast by sp5 · · Score: 1
      I don't read books, where can I get the podcast?

      I'm sorry sir, we can't offer a free podcast of this book, but maybe you're interested in an audio book or a DRM'ed MP3 or AAC?

  12. I could tell it was lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I wanted to find something on the audio aspects of recording my podcast. I looked on Amazon and could tell from the Table of Contents of Cochrane's book that this one was lame. I think I figured out that it was rushed to print.

    Too bad for Wiley Amazon does give a "peek inside. "

    I could see it was Windows only, when we're using Macs. We got on first show out using Garage Band in less than a week from concept to delivery - and it was GOOD, if we do say so ourselves.

    Since there was no good book worth $20 I used Google and the tips from Podcast 411 and Doug Kaye for resources instead of waiting for a book.

    That, and I listened to Geek News Central long enough to know he was lamer... He believes in UFOs being alien visits for chrissakes.

    1. Re:I could tell it was lame by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I tried to listen to his podcast for about a month. All it was was "Here's what's on /. today: *reads headlines, makes stupid comment*" or "Hey, I have a surprise coming up, I can't tell you what it is, but it's amazing." And one entire episode was dedicated to the fact that he is somehow being paid to do that shit. He spent another episode reading letters from idiots praising him for his wonderful show.

      What wonderful show? It's just some asshole talking about his lame life and reading slashdot.

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    2. Re:I could tell it was lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know this comment was a better review than the damn article. People who use the phrase comma splice should not review books. I dont give a damn if its written in crayon if it has the info I need. Like I would read a book like this for entertainment or artistic value. Just get over yer damn self... While I am on a tear - single quotes belong in code not copy .. why the hell put them in concatenations at all?? Read alound obvious... dont and don't ... big difference eh?

    3. Re:I could tell it was lame by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 1

      That's it, I'm subscribing.

      No, really. It sounds exactly like what I would do if I had a podcast. So if I listen to it, maybe I can spare the world more of the same.

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  13. gay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Liberache gay. But more power to Todd on making a buck off of the "hipsters".

  14. Awesome strategy by Twid · · Score: 2, Informative

    Step 1: Start Drama with book author on Yahoo Groups list.

    Step 2: Submit a bitter, mean spirited, personal attack disguised as a book review to Slashdot.

    Step 3: ?????

    Step 4: Profit.

    (Disclaimer: Don't know either of them. Actually thought, based on the review, that the reviewer was writing his own podcast book and was back-channel promoting it while tearing down another book. Found the thread in the google search trying to validate this. Actually proud of reviewer for creative flaming strategy and wish I had though of that first.)

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    1. Re:Awesome strategy by SFEley · · Score: 1
      For what it's worth (and you can decide that for yourself) I'm not writing a book on podcasting. I wish I was, and it seems like half the people I know are, but I came in just a couple of months too late for that.

      As for "drama" -- yeah, I've argued with Todd. But there are a fair number of things I respect him for, too. And your order of events is wrong; I submitted this review before the thread you're pointing to happened. (The approval queue for book reviews is slower than the rest of Slashdot.)

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    2. Re:Awesome strategy by Twid · · Score: 1

      Don't confuse my humor with facts. :)

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  15. Hypocrisy by BarryNorton · · Score: 1

    Uh, dorky review, dude. You'd be able to write better -- in the second person or otherwise -- if you followed your own advice.

  16. Podcasting is lame by TooncesTheCat · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Do what most people want to do when they want a fucking internet radio station.

    Start a shoutcast server or icecast stream like most people and quit trying to make everything so goddamn hip and trendy.

    No need for RSS feeds just constantly stream..

    BOOYAH

    1. Re:Podcasting is lame by TooncesTheCat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why was this modded a troll, its the god's honest truth. Its basically someone just wanting to be trendy and use a hip new word to impress their friends.

      Friend #1 "Hey Friend #2 check this out, Im podcasting to the people in my Quake clan"

      Friend #2 "Whats podcasting?"

      Friend #1 "It's where I record a show or me talking about random stuff and edit it and release it into a RSS feed so that people can check it from their browser and listen to me ramble on about my day in high school"

      Friend #2 "Why are you doing all of that, I just use shoutcast"

      Actual conversation that has taken place somewhere at sometime.

      I hate trends.

    2. Re:Podcasting is lame by hungrygrue · · Score: 1

      That isn't the point of podcasting. It isn't an attempt to duplicate radio, it is more of a way to time-shift radio. In fact, most of the podcasts that I listen to are public radio programs which happen to also be offered as podcasts. I can listen whenever I like and I get to hear programs that I otherwise wouldn't be able to.

    3. Re:Podcasting is lame by timster · · Score: 1

      Streaming only makes sense when you want to set up an audio STATION. When you are streaming, you need to have content running all the time. I suppose you could just stream your current show over and over, but that would be lame.

      A podcast is what you do when you want to distribute a radio SHOW. You have maybe an hour of content a week, maybe less. You record it and people listen to it when they want.

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      I have seen the future, and it is inconvenient.
    4. Re:Podcasting is lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate trends that are promoted ad-infinitum on Slashdot.

      Podcasting currently tops the fucking list.

  17. Podcasting is right up there with blog... by GillBates0 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    ...in my list of overhyped/overmarketed buzzwords.

    This page carries a pretty accurate and humorous description of my feelings on these overused buzzwords. To quote:

    Lately I've been hearing a lot of stupid people parroting stupid buzz words. There are too many to list all of them here, but I'll be damned if I'm not going to try. I propose that we all agree, here and now, to strike these words and phrases from our collective for the betterment of humanity, and the improvement of my blood pressure. Thank you.

    Podcast: Someone had the revolutionary idea of taking a compressed audio file and putting it online. Yeah, doesn't sound so sexy when I describe it for what it is, does it you morons? It would have been a great idea if streaming audio wasn't already around for over a decade before the word "podcast" entered the lexicon. Man, I can't stand the word "lexicon." Talking about all these shitty words has made me start using shitty words. I'm so pissed, I just slammed the door shut on some kid's nuts.

    Podcasting: It's snob for "streaming audio."

    Podcatcher: Any idiot with an iPod, web browser, or ears.

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    An Indian-American Hindu committed to non-violent thought/speech/action alarmed by the global explosion of radical Islam
    1. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by timster · · Score: 1

      But that's a stupid statement. Podcasting is never streamed, and it's not just an audio file online -- a podcast is episodic in nature.

      Really, do people even bother to learn the meanings of the words they criticize?

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      I have seen the future, and it is inconvenient.
    2. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      Come on, he has a point - and yes, podcasts are not streamed but they are audio files online! That they're syndicated via RSS is of little consequence; you could deliver it the same with a plain vanilla web page.

          I just don't get the craze over podcasts.

    3. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by Dominic_Mazzoni · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Podcasting: It's snob for "streaming audio."

      That would be funny, except it's wrong.

      Podcasting refers to subscribing to audio clips containing regularly updated and timely content and automatically downloading them them so that you can listen to them later, then automatically copying them to a portable music device so that you can listen away from your computer and Internet connection. (So it's not streaming audio at all; the audio files are downloaded in batch.)

      All of these concepts existed before, but nobody had ever put them together into a somewhat standardized system, and there was no critical mass of content providers until recently.

      The technology is not revolutionary. The idea seems obvious once you hear of it. But until Podcasting, nobody listened to timely, but non-real-time audio programs before. Now millions of people do. That's why there's a word for it.

      Listen, I hate buzzwords too. Podcasting is probably overhyped. But that doesn't mean that it's just the same as streaming audio, and that there aren't any interesting new ideas there, either.

    4. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by smallpaul · · Score: 1

      Dude. Podcasting is not streaming audio. The whole point is that you (typically) download the whole podcast to your device. In those terms, podcasting is simpler than streaming audio. On the other hand, podcasts are syndicated, which makes them quite different from plain audio files (whether streamed or downloaded).

    5. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by PintoPiman · · Score: 1
      Vote for the best reason why parent is brain-dead:

      1) Podcasts aren't actually streamed.

      2) Parent "parrots" a page which complains about stupid people "parroting" things.

      3) Parent "parrots" every other vitriolic /. post about podcasts. These account for about half of all responses to any story involving podcasts.

      4) I like podcasts, you insensitive clod!

    6. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "That they're syndicated via RSS is of little consequence"

      Actually, that's about the entire point of them. Consider if I just want a specific audio file, I can go and get it and download it. But what if the audio file I want is a weekly show. That means each week I have to remember to go to the download site and get it. With RSS, I don't have to remember. Software remembers for me, checks for updates, and when an update occurs, the software automatically downloads it for me. Then the file can be post-processed; for example, iTunes places it in a special category, and can automatically delete older podcast after some criteria, such as after it has been listened to or to keep only the most recent file, etc.

      So the advantages are:
      1) I don't have to remember to download the file each week.
      2) I don't have to wait for the download to complete.
      3) I don't have to manage the files manually.

      All I have to do is dock my iPod or other MP3 player, and after a synchronization I have new content to listen to on-the-go.

    7. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      That they're syndicated via RSS is of little consequence; you could deliver it the same with a plain vanilla web page.

      Solely "delivering" by web page would defeat the point and make it harder to get. I don't think you've actually taken the time to notice that most podcasts are also "delivered" by a plain vanilla web page, but that is beside the point.

      What RSS does is enables a person to use a program to automatically download the latest recordings from all their RSS subscriptions, automatically put it in their audio library and automatically put them on their portable audio player whenever it is docked. I use a "Most Recently Added" playlist to listen to the latest stuff.

    8. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      Solely "delivering" by web page would defeat the point and make it harder to get. I don't think you've actually taken the time to notice that most podcasts are also "delivered" by a plain vanilla web page, but that is beside the point.

          I did - my brother likes podcasts a lot and usually downloads old shows from their website directly. Point is - it's still downloading audio clips from the web. RSS just automatizes the process.

          And "harder"? Come on... if you like a weekly show you can get up your ass and click on a link every Monday :). I agree that RSS makes it quite more handy, but there's hardly anything new or innovative about the whole process.

    9. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Point is - it's still downloading audio clips from the web.

      Yeah, and the web is just downloading bits over TCP/IP, but it's a hell of a lot easier to use than gopher/ftp, and they were easier to use than BBSes.

      You see, we build new things on top of older technology to make it better. Then those new technologies become popular.

      At one point "the web" was a buzzword, but then it become ubiquitous, and now no one thinks of it as a buzzword.

      Podcasting is a new technology built on top of the web, xml, rss, etc. It's two things: On the client side, it's like TiVo for audio broadcasts. You subscribe to content you like, and it's delivered to your listening device for portable, time-shifted listening pleasure. And the second part of podcasting is it gives amateurs a chance to compete against established, big-budget radio programs, because the budget requirements are vastly diminished (bandwidth is cheaper than an FCC license and a radio tower).

      Next time someone wants to diss podcasting, maybe they should understand (a) what it really is, and (b) why it is becoming popular. Thus avoiding looking like a dumbass down the road. Such as some around here have had happen ("no wireless, less space than a nomad, lame").

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      Ironically, the word ironically is often used incorrectly.
    10. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yay! You can copy and paste! He sure is growing up.

    11. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by batkiwi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Now, anyone saying "podcatcher" should be shot. But if you don't understand how podcasting works, don't blame it on the people who do.

      Think of it like netflix for radio shows, as opposed to "streaming" (like radio) or "going to blockbuster" (downloading).

      Without the idea of podcasting, if there was an audio show you were interested in, every day you'd go to their site, check if there's a new show, download it yourself, save it to a directory, then either burn it to cd, copy it to an mp3 player, or listen to it on your pc.

      With podcasting, you subscribe to an RSS feed, which is good because it has a title, datetime, and unique ID. When your client sees a new item in the feed, it auto-downloads it, and (if you set it up) auto-copies it to your mp3 player and loads it up in a new playlist. Or if you don't have an mp3 player, it will blink in your tray to let you know you have a new show to listen to.

      It's no more "streaming audio" than downloading an installer for a program is "streaming executable".

      The cool thing about it is if you have 2-3 that you listen to, then each day on your drive to work you can listen to something you're interested in instead of some zany idiots on 10X.Y.

      Side note: Right now, because it's not, there are probably 10:1 ratio of shitty/worthless podcasts to interesting ones. THis doesn't mean that podcasting in general sucks, though. The BBC is already podcasting some of their more interesting shows, and the ABC in Australia is piloting the same. There's also plenty of niche shows which are still quite good and have a very focused show, for example I am a big wine drinker and love listening to http://www.winecast.net/.

    12. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      And the second part of podcasting is it gives amateurs a chance to compete against established, big-budget radio programs, because the budget requirements are vastly diminished (bandwidth is cheaper than an FCC license and a radio tower).

          Ok, repeat after me... this will be easy, ok?

          PODCASTING IS NOT RADIO.

          I wasn't dissing podcasting, in case you missed it, but as long as we're getting into it; yes, this is what bugs me. Podcasting is not live. Podcasting is delivering prerecorded audio clips via RSS for convinient download. That's it. The Shoutcast boom a few years ago was more comparable to radio than podcasts will ever be. Listening to someone pretending to be doing radio over God knows how many takes completely ruins the experience for me.

          Look, if you like podcasts, hey, more power to you. Seriously. I don't, and there's no need to get nasty over it, we're all grown ups. But podcasting is not "revolutionary", neither a new technology.

    13. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by LetterJ · · Score: 1

      Umm. You do know that a LOT of radio *is* produced using "God knows how many takes", right? That much of the best content on NPR and the BBC is painstakingly prepared in advance, edited down from hours of recorded audio from the field and otherwise produced pretty much like video documentaries. Just last week, someone flubbed up in that editing process and one of the field reporter's audio included the 3-2-1 intro for marking edit points on a retake.

      Just because your "morning zoo" or call-in show is live doesn't mean that all radio is. And, much of the best in podcasting emulates or directly IS produced radio. Most of my current subscriptions are those exact kinds of content. Heck, in a lot of markets, the "best of" clips from the weekdays are played as the Saturday morning content on the radio. That clipshow is pretty much the same as a podcast.

      Radio and podcasting are media. The content delivered via those media are quite varied (despite Clearchannel's best efforts) and only really share one thing in common: they're audio that you can listen to.

    14. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Next up: a poster on Slashdot thinks all radio is live; writes a nasty, condescending post; says there is no need to get nasty."

    15. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 1

      Ok, repeat after me... this will be easy, ok?

      PODCASTING IS NOT RADIO.


      Ok, repeat after me... this may not be easy, based on your apparant lack of reading cognition, ok?

      "it's like TiVo for audio broadcasts"

      See, that was what I said.

      Then I said it lets people compete against big-budget radio programs, because a lot of the podcast content now is big-budget radio programs.

      Listening to someone pretending to be doing radio over God knows how many takes completely ruins the experience for me.

      I have more news for you... podcasting is not all amateur hour. My favorite podcasts are radio re-broadcasts, or newsmagazines like newsweek, or near-live clips like the hourly CNN update.

      I don't, and there's no need to get nasty over it, we're all grown ups.

      This is slashdot. I'm That's Unpossible! and you're Lisandro, two anonymous dorks arguing on a friday night about whether podcasting is cool or not. What is there to get nasty about? Perhaps you perceived my searing sarcasm as nastiness, my apologies.

      podcasting is not "revolutionary", neither a new technology.

      Where did I say it was revolutionary or a new technology? It is evolutionary, and it will most definitely be popular as more professional-level content becomes available. Why? I'll tell you:

      1. There are audio broadcasts you can't always get via radio in your part of the world, so you want to listen to it anyway. Say you moved and you still want to listen to your hometown radio show.

      2. People are often in their cars or with their digital music devices at times when their radio program is not on the air. It'd be nice to listen to it whenever, just like PVRs let you watch your favorite programs whenever.

      3. People like to skip past commercials. What is better than [insert favorite radio program]? That radio program without the commercials. People would even be willing to pay for good audio programs that have no commercials.

      Your whole point seems to be "I hate amateur broadcasts." Wake up, man, the content will get there.

      People like to compare podcasting to streaming, a fad that is not as popular now. But streaming was never convenient, and it didn't offer many advantages over regular radio. Perhaps a bit more content, but usually at crappier quality levels, and now you're tethered to your computer. Satellite radio killed the internet streaming market.

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    16. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 1

      I would say the ratio is closer to 40/1. However, in any medium you're going to get a lot of crap, and the very nature of this particular medium means that there are going to be a lot of niche shows that will only appeal to a very narrow slice of the potential audience (say, the podcaster and her five closest friends).

      The lack of quality control isn't a huge problem, because people will go around recommending the shows that get them excited. If you don't want to go slogging through hours and hours of crap by no-talent hacks (soccergirl, I want fifteen minutes of my life back), not to worry. Selection mechanisms are already at work saving you from the worst of it, and as time goes on those selection mechanisms will only get more powerful.

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      You want the truthiness? You can't handle the truthiness!

    17. Re:Podcasting is right up there with blog... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Netflix? You mean, after I download X shows, I can't download any more until I send one of the old ones back?

      Sorry, I'm terrible. They should ban me from the 'Net.

  18. underground music podcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for music, i enjoy
    http://post-radio.blogspot.com/

    it's a new project so bare with him.

  19. No by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 2, Funny
    Ask me the question, Bridge Keeper. I'm not afraid.

    Bridge Keeper: So what about this one? Other than being the first, does it offer any compelling virtues for the would-be podcaster or listener?

    No.

    Bridge Keeper: Oh, well, go ahead and cross.

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    Stop Global Warming!
    Just say no to irreversible processes!
  20. Podcasting Apps in Linux? by ecliptik · · Score: 1

    Even though I did some searching around, I haven't yet found an app for linux that does this amazing "subscribe, download, sync to an mp3 player" that the book/review talks about. What apps are out there for linux that are capable of these feats?

    1. Re:Podcasting Apps in Linux? by lanalyst · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Podcasting Apps in Linux? by hungrygrue · · Score: 1

      There is a program called Jpodder which is at least usable though the interface rather sucks. I'm actually finishing a Linux podcast aggregator called Castgater [yea.. I know not very imaginative] at the moment which, hopefully, I will have in a releasable state before next semester starts :-) Assuming that nothing major comes up to distract me, it should be up on Sourceforge before too long

    3. Re:Podcasting Apps in Linux? by hungrygrue · · Score: 1

      iPodder is basically a Windows program. I have never been able to get it running under Linux (multiple versions under multiple distributions). I believe iPodder's general suckiness was the reason that Bashpodder was created :-)

    4. Re:Podcasting Apps in Linux? by forkazoo · · Score: 1

      It's called perl.

      (You may have to type in some extra stuff to get it to do exactly what you want.)

    5. Re:Podcasting Apps in Linux? by Error629 · · Score: 1

      sh & vi?

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    6. Re:Podcasting Apps in Linux? by SFEley · · Score: 1

      This page has a list of podcast clients that will (mostly) work in Linux. BashPodder is even written about in Cochrane's book, for which I really should have given him some props.

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      ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
  21. Re:Slashdot Declaration of Independence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, I looked a digg. 99% of the stuff there is crap. 98% of it is NOT technology related. It's not timely (yes, PLEASE let me see week old news on the front page). Digg has just as many, if not more, problems with misrepresentation of the article, duplicate articles, trash articles, and everything else that you complain about. If you want to see things not related to technology, go for it. If you want to see things like "read my blog on how X sucks," go for it. Otherwise, I'll stick with something that has some actual content worth reading, even if it does have some problems, there are a lot fewer.

  22. Invasion of the Podcasts by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    Who's got numbers showing how many people listen to "podcasts" with their iPod, vs how many listen to any kind of network audio transmission they're just calling a "podcast", directly at their computer? How many of those computer listeners are listening to streams ("Internet radio", etc), how many to downloads (iTunes, Napster, Rhapsody, etc)? And how popular is BitTorrent vs just HTTP (or RTSP, MMS, etc)? If the normals are going to herd along our beaten paths bleating "podcast", I want to hear from the sheepdogs who can sort out the woolier ones for better shearing.

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  23. lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    anybody else think podcast is a lame word for "hour long mp3" ???

    I have plenty of hour long mp3's... can I call them podcasts now too?

  24. I tried ... by McSnickered · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Honest, I really tried to join the Podcast-superhighway. But what I discovered is that all the podcasts that are highly rated and have even received numerous kudos in woodfiber-casts like NY Times are just too boring. Invariably, it is some individual going on for 20 minutes about how popular their podcast is, and then they whine about how unfair life is and what's wrong with the world. Just listen to a few - you'll see what I mean. It's been a trial to find even 4 podcasts that I find worth listening to. And really - it's just an mp3 file. Now it's time for me to "time-shift". Gotta go!

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    They call me the working man. I guess that's what I am.
    1. Re:I tried ... by Slack3r78 · · Score: 1

      Sure, there are a bunch that are rather bland, but I haven't found it *that* hard to find content I find interesting. The NPR podcasts are great - The Treatment in particular is fantastic if you're a movie buff. This Week in Tech is made of of the old TechTV crew, and is generally a fun listen. Tips from the Top Floor is a great photography show, focusing on a single hint each episode. Daily Sonic (which is probably my personal favorite) is a ~hour long podcast that features 5-15 minute segments on just about anything imaginable and refers to itself as an MP3zine. And so on.

      Really, I don't deny that there's a lot of crap out there, as with any medium, but there are so many podcasts out there covering so many different topics that I think you're being a bit quick to dismiss the medium.

    2. Re:I tried ... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      All mediums had crap when they first start out. Though it does improve a bit over time, all mediums that still exist are still flooded with crap. I maintain that the Internet is still mostly crap, but somehow Google manages to bring up the better pages on occation.

      And really, it is "just" an mp3 file, but the people that say that ignore the subscription delivery method, which makes it easy to keep up without visiting several sites repeatedly.

    3. Re:I tried ... by Salvo · · Score: 1

      Skeptically is currently in the Top 100 on iTunes (number 3 ATM), 10th on Podcast Pickle and 43rd on Podcast Alley.

      The Novel Earthcore is also highly rated, but has just concluded. It may appeal to non-technical geeks. Escape Pod, the Podcast of the author of the above reviewer contains short Science Fiction Storys and the Regular Narrators always inject a large amount of Fun into their readings.


      With the exception of one or two episodes, these three podcasts all have high production quality and are a great way to keep your mind amused if you do any commuting or have any free-time to spend.

    4. Re:I tried ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try Noboto.com

    5. Re:I tried ... by K1BJF · · Score: 1

      My commute is 1 hour 15 minutes. I've been doing that for about 13 years now. I've gone up and down the radio dial but find that I hear the same talk, same music and same commercials...those damn annoying, in your face commercials! I even tried Satellite radio for a while. Better, but still pretty much the same thing day in and day out. With close to 4,000 podcasts available to me, my commute has become much more interesting. I have my favorite podcasts, but I also try new ones each week. You never know when you'll find a gem. If it's bad I just click to the next podcast. The best part, when I arrive at work, I can pause the program and pick it back up where I left off on the commute home.

  25. Wow... by syberanarchy · · Score: 1
    The newspaper I write for wanted to do this huge writeup on this overhyped marketingspeak word. When I explained that "Podcasting" is nothing more than a digital audio file to a server....but downloading it AUTOMATICALLY!!!!!11111!!1, they scrapped it.

    So in a way, I feel like I've done my part to scrap this bullshit. I'm proud.

    1. Re:Wow... by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 1
      If you're writing for a general audience, rather than some tech publication whose readers can presumably find interesting content themselves thankyouverymuch, you probably did them a disservice. Hype or no hype, podcasts seem like an ideal way to deliver content over the Internet to computer novices. Before podcasting, the average user had to:

      1. Find some random web page where somebody puts frequently-updated mp3s.
      2. Bookmark the page, or worse, remember how to find it.
      3. Go to the bloody page every time the listener gets curious about the latest episode of the show. (That's probably the hardest step on the list)
      4. Manually move the files over to an audio player (in such a way as to keep the episodes organized) so that the computer novice can listen without being anchored to the bloody computer.

      That's a lot to ask of anyone who isn't already tech-obsessed. You could have done your readers a favor by saying, "Ignore the hype, it's not going to take over the world. But here's what it is." Then you could have pointed them to a couple of clients, given them links to a few shows with good quality and mass appeal, and let dear Aunt Tillie have the joy of scaring the bejeezus out of her kids with a bit of tech savvy.

      Instead, you decided that the best thing to do was to heap scorn upon an overly-popular buzzword, in the hopes that the underlying phenomenon would go away. You stupid tech snob. Don't you understand that, for 90% of the population, "AUTOMATICALLY!!!!!!1111!!1" makes all the difference in the world? If you can't get your brain around that, you shouldn't be let within a mile of a tech story.

      I always find it satisfying to end a debate by gratuitously sniping at my opponent's competence in his chosen profession, don't you? It's a long and storied Slashdot tradition.
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      You want the truthiness? You can't handle the truthiness!

  26. Is this Wow or is this just Now by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    The newspaper I write for wanted to do this huge writeup on this overhyped marketingspeak word. When I explained that "Podcasting" is nothing more than a digital audio file to a server....but downloading it AUTOMATICALLY!!!!!11111!!1, they scrapped it.

    So, basically, you talked yourself out of going to listen to free music and talking with band members, just to prove a point?

    Um, ok, whatever.

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    1. Re:Is this Wow or is this just Now by fbjon · · Score: 1

      No, he talked himself out of listening to boring audio files from a server and talking with random strangers of no significance.

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      True confidence comes not from realising you are as good as your peers, but that your peers are as bad as you are.
  27. What podcasts are by LordSnooty · · Score: 1

    They're just audio files, right? Like the hundreds I have on my hard drive? Am I missing something? I never did see a book on MP3.

    1. Re:What podcasts are by MykeBNY · · Score: 1

      The audio file itself is certainly an integral part of a podcast, but it's not all of it. A podcast consists of a regularly produced audio file, an RSS feed that updates when there's a new audio file with a link to it, and an RSS aggregator that automatically downloads the file (and optionally syncs it to a portable music player). That's it.

      I like it because I can listen to NPR's Science Friday while I'm working.

      Like the reviewer stated, there's no reason to get the book if you just want to subscribe to a podcast, that's as easy as getting a client (buzzword "podcatcher") and add feeds (usually as simple as bookmarking a website).

      Btw, MP3 for Dummies

    2. Re:What podcasts are by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, no. A podcast is not an audio file. A podcast is a series of audio files, usually with some theme that ties them together, with new episodes being produced at regular intervals, along with a mechanism by which people can agree to receive future episodes of the show. It's a sacred bond of trust between podcaster and listener, all hail the Internet.

      Left to themselves, the mp3s on your hard drive get stale and crotchety. That's why they need a way to make friends. Podcasting is like a play date for your mp3 collection. Or some crap like that.

      Finally: Book in MP3 format. They happen sometimes.

  28. mmmm by deekismusic · · Score: 1

    personally, i have a lot of fun doing podcasts. even though mine isn't anything amazing. i don't think we should be using the word we're using, however. eck!


    http://post-radio.blogspot.com/

  29. Three easy steps to fame. by quasi_steller · · Score: 2, Insightful
    1. Find something that people have been doing on the internet for years.
    2. Syndicate it with RSS.
    3. Give it a catchy name.
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    ...interesting if true.
  30. Wasn't time shifting audio invented a century ago? by geekee · · Score: 1

    Why is the ability to put it on a portable digital player making such big news?

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    Vote for Pedro
  31. Re:Wasn't time shifting audio invented a century a by MykeBNY · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For the same reason TiVo was such a major innovation over the VCR: They do essentially the same thing, but with less manual user intervention.

    I listened to a couple weekly downloadable radio shows before this whole "podcasting" thing became so popular. I had to visit each site from my bookmarks, and download the MP3s manually to my player. With podcasts, I just leave my mp3 player hooked up, and the software loads it up automatically.

  32. I use a graphical FTP interface by pudding7 · · Score: 1

    Does that make me 12 years old? WTF kind of comment is that?

    1. Re:I use a graphical FTP interface by shobadobs · · Score: 1

      Does that make me 12 years old?

      If only it were that easy.

    2. Re:I use a graphical FTP interface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From TFA: "There's an entire chapter about using graphical FTP clients -- lame because anyone who's that blinking-twelve was lost back at Chapter 6." Translation: The author wastes too much paper teaching FTP. Anyone who has made it this far in the book obviously knows enough to stop their VCR from blinking "12:00" and doesn't need this chapter.

    3. Re:I use a graphical FTP interface by SlashdotStu · · Score: 1

      I use a graphical FTP interface. Does that make me 12 years old? WTF kind of comment is that?

      If you go back an re-read the review, the term used was "blinking twelve", which is a term for people who are no good with technology; the sort of people who can't set the clock on their VCR.

  33. That's my Thread!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not the guy that posted the "mean-spirited" attack.

    But I'm the "College student wanting to create a podcast" that started the thread

    I feel so honored right now. To be mentioned on slashdot has been somewhat a goal of mine. I can die a happy man now.

    I am still looking for the "Quick and Dirty" route to podcasting and might even write my own guide on how to do it once I get on my feet and get out there into the world. Free of Charge of cource

    (BTW, the guy that wrote the book e-mailed me in regards to my questions about making a podcast...Telling me to buy his book)

  34. Podcast is the new blog by fadden · · Score: 1

    Many individuals and news organizations missed out on the leading edge of "blogging" and have been struggling to catch up. Somebody told them that "podcasting" was the Next Big Thing, and they created their own hype whirlwind.

    But hey, if you can have WebTV For Dummies, why not have an entire book about podcasting?

    What we need to do now is combine fad buzzwords with fad law-breaking. Henceforth all podcasts must be distributed on p2p networks. If we can figure out how get them inappropriate ESRB ratings we'll trendily offend absolutely everyone.

  35. I'll be podcasting soon by Error629 · · Score: 1

    Anyone know of some good emo music with a Creative Commmons license? I will be podcasting soon @ http://www.bleedemo.com/

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    The world doesn't just disappear when you close your eyes, does it?
    1. Re:I'll be podcasting soon by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      "Anyone know of some good emo music"

      Nope.

  36. Dear whiners about podcasting... by AvantLegion · · Score: 1
    Get over yourselves.

    People keep posting that stupid link, and it doesn't get any less stupid or clueless. "Podcasting" isn't the audio, it's the means of distribution.

  37. mod parent up by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 1

    Yes, it's that important!

    --
    Spoon not. Fork, or fork not. There is no spoon.
  38. The Onion on podcasts by bayvult · · Score: 1
    Podcast a cry for help

    BOZEMAN, MT--The few people close to Mitch Delomme say that he doesn't realize the implications of his new podcast, an agonizingly personal 40-minute digitally recorded capsule of news, information, and trivia about the chronically lonely pizza-delivery man.

    "I wanted to share something about myself," said Delomme, 48, who in the course of his life has been heavily involved in ham and CB radio, personal home-page construction, and participation in late-night community-access cable.

    Delomme's podcast is currently available on all major subscription links, where it has attracted no attention.

    He is Dave Winer!

  39. What I want to know by RedWolves2 · · Score: 1

    Why does Slashdot continue to use BN.com as their affiliate program for books?

    Amazon continually beats them in price on every book review done.

    Amazon $13.59*

    *Yes it's an Aff link.

  40. Skeptics Abound by peatbakke · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Admitedly, "podcasting" is a buzzword for a technology that's been around for over a decade. And yes, most podcasts will be lame and irritating Live Journal analogs.

    Despite all this, I think it's an important phenomenon. Sometimes all it takes is a buzzword to create an industry out of an interesting but previously unsexy technology (hey, that's what happened to the Internet). It will take a while to mature, and there are some hurdles that need to be addressed (copyright issues and what-not), but in the end it's a disruptive technology and an opportunity to challenge radio's dominant share of the audio broadcast market.

    Yeah, I know -- we've all been streaming music and radio shows for years, and sometimes ripping and burning 'em for later enjoyment ... but we're early technology adopters and geeks.

    The fact of the matter is that everyone I've explained podcasting to is excited about it. Not just my geek friends, but my parents and their friends. Time shifting is a *big* deal in broadcast media. Once people get it, they say "why didn't they do that before?"

    So, that's why podcasting is important. It's not important because of some revolutionary technology -- it's important because it's the fruit of revolutionary and evolutionary technologies: the Internet, broadband, home recording, portable digital players.

    Frankly, I'm surprised by the nay sayers here. This is the sort of stuff we've been having wet dreams about since the late ninties. The rest of the world finally figured it out, and now they're interested in throwing heaps of money at *us* to make it happen. ... and the brilliant part about the whole scheme of things is that you *don't* have to listen to the crap. Isn't that why we invented this stuff in the first place? Because radio sucked?

    So stop whining, jump on the bandwagon, and make it something worth while. You might even make a pile of cash doing it.

    1. Re:Skeptics Abound by jhoger · · Score: 0

      I think the thing that annoys some of us about the buzzword is that it is tied to one company, Apple. They didn't invent RSS or MP3 players. In fact both things were pretty well established when the iPod came along. Apple just happens to have an overpriced MP3 player brand that has been made popular by the Mac artsy types that hold sway over the tech publications, presumably because macs are historically popular for DTP.

      The whole mac-elite thing just gets on my nerves and I'm not totally sure why. Take MAKE, for example. A great idea, and really cool at times but the whole shiny clean Mac bias in there makes me want to throw it up on top of the house and let it get nice and funky up there before I fetch it and take another look at it. Electronics and building things is gritty bare metal kind of stuff. It doesn't have nice clean lines, good use of color and impeccable grammar. Am I communicating here?

      Anyway, if it was called "RSS Radio" or "RSS Audio" or something like that it would grate less on my nerves.

      -- John.

    2. Re:Skeptics Abound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sometimes all it takes is a buzzword to create an industry out of an interesting but previously unsexy technology (hey, that's what happened to the Internet)

      And it's all been downhill from there. Sigh.

  41. Audio Only? by rapett0 · · Score: 1

    http://www.current.tv/

    What about our good friend, we have no casting anything without Al inventing the Internet (j/k). But is it really limited to audio only? Check out 366 on Direct TV. I am actually fairly addicted to it.

    1. Re:Audio Only? by RickySan · · Score: 1

      Nope seeing the enclosure tag can hold just about anything, its not restricted to audio. The application we wrote does both audio and video (http://www.lionhardt.ca/wps)

      --
      "If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say that the universe aimed rather low
  42. Uh.... by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1
    What apps are out there for linux that are capable of these feats?

    Cron. Check it out, it's the newest fad. Podcasting is so 15 minutes ago.

  43. At the very least... by hesiod · · Score: 1

    At the very least, they are admitting that it isn't anything revolutionary.

    I'm a bit annoyed that an Apple-based title (pod*)has been attached to something obvious and which, minus RSS (another obvious step to RSS audio files), has been done for almost a decade.

    Note that my problem isn't with Apple, but the idea that this is something new. It isn't, and calling it podcasting is simply applying an inappropriate bullshit title to something that already had a name: downloading and listening to audio files.

  44. Music Licensing for Podcasts by greylingrover · · Score: 0

    Other than the brief note about being careful about music copyrights, I'm wondering if the author delves into where Podcasters can obtain licensed production music that has the appropriate usage rights for Podcasting, which seems to fall somewhere between multimedia and broadcast. I'm hoping to capitalize on the craze soon when I restructure the pricing on my site, but this is so new that I have no idea if people are willing to actually license music for their Podcasts - maybe the larger ones with corporate sponsors, but I really want to cater to the small guys, including giving away free music now and then with a CC license. Any thoughts? Do you think people will pay for Podcasting music like they do for say a Flash animation, etc.?

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    --- Shoo-be-doo-be-do-wop-say-what-yeah!
  45. Podcasting rules by Crixus · · Score: 1

    Prior to a few months ago I had no idea what a Podcast was (and this is coming from a computer geek/audio engineer). I suppose it is precisely BECAUSE I'm an audio guy that I was not aware of Podcasts... because I don't have an MP3 player (portable iPod type, anyway). When I want to listen to music, I use a STEREO system, not my computer.

        But anyway, in March a friend suggested *I* do a Podcast, and I thought he was crazy. I suggested we do one together, and these few months later, we have 7 episodes in the can, and are having a BLAST.

        I really enjoy the freedom the format allows, and the distribution potential of the internet. If you have something to say, do it in a podcast.

        As long as I'm posting, check out my sig and give OUR Podcast a listen. I think you'll enjoy it.

      Rich...

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    Ignore Alien Orders
  46. Ugh!! by jo42 · · Score: 1
    Yet Another Retarded Fad.

    Too bad you can't patent stupidity. I'd be the richest crusty crudge on the planet.

  47. "Pirate" radio? by Legion303 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Podcasting: Do-It-Yourself Pirate Radio for the Masses

    Come on, now.

  48. Enough Already by ArkieNerd · · Score: 1

    It is safe to say that the technology behind podcasting is not breathtaking. To me, it is the social aspect of podcasting that is so great. In the past, I would either have to listen to music radio or NPR. Now, I can choose to listen to something more relevant to me. Until podcasting, I can't think of a technical radio station that I could listen to when I was jogging, but now I can download some good techie podcasts and not have to settle for pirated audio from gnutella. Now, subject matter experts (or novices talking with experts) can put out audio for niche crowds.

    Is there crap out there? Of course. The medium is new and everybody is trying to make their mark. If I remember correctly, everybody jumped on the 'homepage' bandwagon for a while. With all of the out-of-date homepages, I'm not seeing that being a big deal any more. Even some podcasts that I was listening to a few months ago are long gone. We are in the midst of a big wave of content. Soon, most will fade away and only the strong or insanely board will survive.

    I currently host a podcast that seems to have found a niche market. In the podcast, I interview people in the Perl community about what they are doing and such. So far, the cast has had only constructive feedback from those who have listened. Before Perlcast, it was not easy to listen to an interview with Larry Wall or Damian Conway or any of the other contributors to the Perl community. Now it is easy. The people in the Perl community get it. They see that we can listen to conversations about Perl at our convenience. The podcast medium might end up with some big names, but it is the niche markets where the difference is really felt.

    And to everyone bitching about the word 'podcast', let me here a better name? It is catchy and the meaning is almost intuitive... much better than 'audio-file-in-rss-enclosure-cast'. WTF do you want to call it? Think of it this way, once circular saws became skil saws, we forgot who Skil was. A brand is only useful until it is commoditized.

    1. Re:Enough Already by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 1
      So far, the cast has had only constructive feedback from those who have listened.
      Now that Slashdot knows about it, I'm thinking that fortunate state of affairs will come to a sudden and jarring halt.
      --

      You want the truthiness? You can't handle the truthiness!

    2. Re:Enough Already by Valerio3 · · Score: 1

      I fully agree with ArkieNerd, here in Italy I had no choice in listening tech radio show at my convenience before podcasts. Now I do not waste any more my commuting time listening stupid radio show, thanks to podcasting I can listen to "Perlcast" (I am a faithfull listner since show number 1) or to "Slashdor Review" or to "Digital Experience Podcast". I started my own italian podcast show also (http://www.audiocast.it/), I bought the Todd Cochrane's book and I found it very useful: may be his english is not perfect, his own way seems the best way in the book, but I found real good advice on few items like http://www.libsyn.com/ to cheaply host shows or the "Semiprofessional podcast studio" suggestions.

    3. Re:Enough Already by AussieVamp2 · · Score: 1

      sounds like a good one to listen to at work while writing perl

      Thanks :)

  49. Added to the List Of Crapulence (TM)... by dame4jc · · Score: 1

    Podcasting
    Blog
    Blogosphere
    Memes

  50. The Only Podcasts That I Have Found Worthwhile by deepbluegeek · · Score: 1

    I have tried the podcast 'thing' for several months. Using iPodder, searching for podcasts all over the web, and then loading them to my Dell DJ.

    Overall if I had to guess, I would say that I sampled over 200 podcast 'shows' over a 6 month period. There are now only two 'subscriptions' left in my iPodder interface: Science@NASA and StarDate. All of the others came and went. I found that I just could not listen to them for multiple reasons.

    I am really into amateur astronomy and space science, so the recordings of the same articles that I would read at the Science@NASA and StarDate websites now loaded onto my mp3 player made it even easier to gain timely information about my hobby. I could even sit and listen to the articles via mp3 while at work doing something mindnumbingly repetitive.

    Anyhoo, I would summarize by saying that if you find a worthwhile 'podcast' or two that provide a regular source of information in mp3 format instead of print, you will benefit. Otherwise I can't see much utility in just listening to people's podcasts just because the technology is there.

    1. Re:The Only Podcasts That I Have Found Worthwhile by deepbluegeek · · Score: 1

      Thinking about it a bit more, I was reading the articles at Science@NASA and StarDate well before they started releasing in mp3 format. So, the 'podcasting' made it easier to 'read' something I was already reading, never did it allow me to find something new to 'listen to'.

  51. Fascinating Argument by michaelkpate · · Score: 1

    > Worth buying? That depends. If you're itching to get started with podcasting,

    Why would you buy it if you weren't?

    > if you're an absolute beginner when it comes to sound recording,

    In other words, the target audience for the book?

    > if the online resources at Podcast411 and other sites don't float your boat,

    Can't say I have even heard of Podcast411

    > and if you can't wait a few more months for books like Podcast Solutions and Podcasting for Dummies to come out

    So we are supposed to assume sight unseen that those are going to be better? Why? And many bought Todd's book months ago.

    > ... then sure. There are at least three or four good chapters in here with information you can use. It's not all the information, and you have to take Cochrane's style and limited viewpoint with a big grain of salt, but it'll get you started. For less than twenty bucks, at least it isn't a high-risk investment.

    Which is probably the most anyone can ask for of any podcasting book.

    In all the years of reading Slashdot, this is easily the worst review I have ever read.

  52. 'images will kill the web' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... infamous quote from early to mid nineties.