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Server Based Slots of the Future

prostoalex writes "The slot machines of the future won't be dumb one-armed bandits anymore, CNet reports. New generation of slot machines, to be deployed in major Vegas casinos, will feature server-based gaming with games, new features and, most important, the odds being downloaded from a central server location, not determined by internal machine algorithm any more."

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  1. Safe and secure! by Savantissimo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some cynics here may doubt the security of the system, but I'm sure none of the gaming vendors will hide any Easter eggs in their proprietary code. After all, if one can make software work reliably for something as complicated as counting votes, surely a simple application like a few hundred different kinds of casino games should be child's play to secure.

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    1. Re:Safe and secure! by Tyler+Eaves · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm not nervous. Casinos make your average government mint look insecure by comparison.

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    2. Re:Safe and secure! by doormat · · Score: 4, Informative

      The code that runs the slot machines is REQUIRED to be inspected and approved by the Nevada Gaming Board (for vegas anyways). So yes, it'll be safe and secure.

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    3. Re:Safe and secure! by IWannaBeAnAC · · Score: 2, Funny

      True. Casino software has far more inspection requirements, and is orders of magnitude more secure than any election software, for example, used in the USA.

    4. Re:Safe and secure! by JohnnyLocust · · Score: 5, Informative

      The code that runs the slot machines is REQUIRED to be inspected and approved by the Nevada Gaming Board (for vegas anyways). So yes, it'll be safe and secure. . This hasn't stopped previous successful exploits on slot machines. http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/1998/Jan-10 -Sat-1998/news/6745681.html Las Vegas has a history of falling prey to the very same people they use to keep gaming secure. As with any secure system, the weakest link is always the human factor.

    5. Re:Safe and secure! by EvilMidnightBomber · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ok. I've written much of the system code for one of the big three slot manufacturers' boxes and actually had to go through the NGCB (Nevada) and GLI (Jersey) submission procedures. They do in fact inspect some of the code in great detail, particularly the random number generator and the process of using it to extract the final reel positions. This (c++) code is perhaps 2-300 lines out of about 15k. There is NO way they could secure this amount of code. Any software guy with a year of experience could hack something in that would look totally innocuous. RAM based pointers in completely different modules come to mind (not that I've thought about it much :) ). The NGCB/GLI process is really just a way for them to get copies of the code and say they did *something* to make the casino ops get a fuzzy warm feeling. What really keeps the software guys in check is simple math. Go into a casino and start winning on ANYTHING consistently and you WILL eventually be caught. You can't drop a stick of gum in these places without being taped from at least 3 angles, and both the slot itself and the central system it's hooked up to keep a very long gamelog. If you're stupid enough to make the machine jackpot, now they have your name (required for tax purposes). So perhaps you could make a few loose thousand without getting noticed but wind up risking all future employability. In addition, if word of the cheat goes public, you've just damaged your employer's reputation, and they can go after your ass financially for lost credibility. I hate to bow to "the man" but some things just aren't worth it.

    6. Re:Safe and secure! by EEBaum · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Slot machines are one of the very few computer applications that I'd trust the security of. There's too much money to be had in it, and any imperfection results in a loss of income for the casino, which translates to VERY BAD THINGS (both above and below the table) for the manufacturer. If they're lucky, they'll just lose business.

      For e-voting, there are many interests all around that will cause poor coding... malicious coders, crooked people, cushy government funding and lax oversight, and the fact that if it just works "pretty good," the government doesn't immediately dump all your machines but rather, at best, sends out a lengthy court-run investigation.

      For machines that make casinos loads of money on often as low as a 1% advantage, the slightest slipup can be devastating, so they're careful.

      Now, if THESE are routinely cracked, I'll have lost all faith in any sort of computer security, ever.

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  2. Improving the experience, sure by stefanb · · Score: 4, Insightful
    They won't have the ubiquitous spinning wheels of today's machines.

    Boy, when's the last time TFA's reporter has been to Las Vegas? My girlfriend and I had real trouble to find a machine that even took quarters, let alone being mechanical.

    "For instance, if on a Saturday night, they decide they'd like to change from a 94 percent pay table to a 90 percent table...right now it would take hours and hours to make that change. And now they'd be able to do that much more expeditiously."

    Ah, there we go! Just quickly change the odds behind the backs of the players so you can reek in more... and market it as "personalized" playing experience. There is no step two...

    I won't comment on the moronic reference to DoD encryption "to make it safe"...

    1. Re:Improving the experience, sure by dnoyeb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      With basic odds you already are going to loose. Computerized odds is just in your face criminal.

      But it takes a certain type of person to truly gamble anyway. This will just speed them to their doom.

      Wasnt there a report and a website already out there that proved the casinos already have cheating software? Honestly, I don't even care. I wouldn't have gambled before, and this certainly wont entice me...

    2. Re:Improving the experience, sure by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Interesting
      But it takes a certain type of person to truly gamble anyway.
      Yeah. Generally, they answer to the name "loser." Like the guy that was bragging that he "won" $400 at the track - but if you prod a bit, it cost him $900 to win that $400. And this guy was a former accountant. Guess that's why he's no longer an accountant - his numbers don't add up.
    3. Re:Improving the experience, sure by mosch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But it takes a certain type of person to truly gamble anyway. This will just speed them to their doom.

      Yeah, it takes the kind of person who enjoys gambling a bit.

      Oooooh right, I forgot that all gamblers are compulsives without any ability to understand odds, or to live life on a budget. You're so much better than them, since your hobbies include "being a self-righteous idiot".

      The funny part about gambling... nobody thinks a thing about a guy who drops $100k on a boat or a car, or the guy who spends $200/wk on golf. But if that guy goes gambling once a week, and loses $10,000/yr, suddenly he's some sort of low-life degenerate, even if he understands what he's doing and is playing within his means.

      I'm a gambler, and I despise compulsives, but they're an unfortunate reality, no different than drunks or bible thumpers.

    4. Re:Improving the experience, sure by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Informative
      Every study done shows that casinos hurt the local economy - higher policing costs, higher welfare rates (broken homes, suicide of the breadwinner, etc), more crime.

      Everyone's a loser because of casinos.

      Has nothing to do with "being self-righteous." People are addicted. Just like they're addicted to VLTs (Video Lottery Terminals). They wear Depends diapers so they can crap in their pants rather than risk losing "their" machine. They piss in their token buckets for the same reason.

      The newspapers here used to carry stories about the workers' complaints, about having to clean up these wonderful "tips". Now the casino fires you if you leak stories about the leaks.

      The three big days for the casinos?

      In order:

      1. Welfare Check Day
      2. Old Age Security Check Day
      3. Family Allowance Check Day.
      The rest is just filler. Don't take my word for it. Ask any casino worker ... or the taxi drivers that take them there, or the bus drivers that bring them back and look the other way when they get on the bus with less than half the fare, because they are TOTALLY broke ...

      Its the casinos that are "self-righteous" - saying they create jobs. Sure they do. Loan sharking. Pawn shops. Divorce lawyers. Embalmers. http://www.cpa-apc.org/Publications/Archives/Bulle tin/2003/december/bourget.asp

      Psychiatry and the Law
      Characteristics of 75 Gambling-Related Suicides in Quebec

      Dominique Bourget, MD, FRCPC, CSPQ
      Associate Professor, Department of Psychiatry, Faculty of Medicine, University of Ottawa, Ottawa, Ontario; Coroner, Province of Quebec.
      Helen Ward, MD, FRCPC
      Assistant Professor, Department of Psychiatry, Faculty of Medicine, University of Ottawa, Ottawa, Ontario.
      Pierre Gagné MD, FRCPC, CSPQ
      Associate Professor, Department of Psychiatry, Faculty of Medicine, University of Sherbrooke, Sherbrooke, Quebec; Coroner, Province of Quebec.

      Objective: To describe the demographic, psychiatric and social characteristics of pathological gamblers who have completed suicide.

      Method: The authors examined 75 cases of completed suicide in which pathological gambling behaviour was implicated. The characteristics of these cases were extracted from the Quebec Coroner's files by two forensic psychiatrists.

      Results: Victims were married in 52.0 per cent of cases, and at least 45.3 per cent were employed. Only 25.3 per cent had made a previous suicide attempt, and most (64.0 per cent) had given no prior warning of suicidal intent to either family or psychiatrists. A history of substance abuse was present in about one-third of the sample, and one-quarter were intoxicated with alcohol at the time of death. Most victims had suffered financial and marital losses as a result of their gambling behaviour.

      Discussion: These results suggest that pathological gamblers who commit suicide differ from nongamblers. Major psychiatric illness and suicidal intent may be more difficult to identify, which potentially leads to underestimates of suicidal risk in individual pathological gamblers. The impulsiveness that characterizes pathological gambling behaviour, in combination with substance abuse and multiple losses, put this population at high risk for suicide. We suggest that, given the growing prevalence of pathological gambling, suicide and suicide prevention in this population should be further studied.
      Gee, sounds like they were having a lot of fun.
  3. It's been like this for years... by AnonDotOrg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hasn't it? Harrahs black jack tables are computerized. You can see a CAT-6 cable running out of a computer under the table... They are obviously all going to one server. I'm sure it's the same with the slots there, too.

    1. Re:It's been like this for years... by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ... and been used as part of the plot in an Analog story ("Of Kings, Queens, and Angels" - Rajnar Vajra, Analog July/August 2005).

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    1. Re:Official Slashdot Guide to Moderation by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Informative

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    2. Re:Official Slashdot Guide to Moderation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

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  5. How secure? by m50d · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Could you plug your own cable in and pretend to be the server? Not that I want to face casino security, but it's an interesting scenario.

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    1. Re:How secure? by timeOday · · Score: 4, Funny
      Could you plug your own cable in and pretend to be the server?
      Brilliant! You could win Internet blackjack the same way! Slight problem: since you're now playing your own, isolated game, you have to pay off your winnings, to yourself. Fun!
  6. S&P / Footsie here we come... by DamonHD · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hi, What about automatic day-trading in FX derivatives or equities with the collected monies of (say) each 100 players? In the short term this really would be pretty random, with the broker acting as "house" and guaranteed an income... Rgds Damon

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  7. Hmm, let's see by ravenspear · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm guessing there won't be an external port on any of the machines with a label "insert server spoof machine interface cable here" so you would probably have to take apart the machine to access some kind of internal port, assuming it has any ports at all.

    Unfortunately casino security would probably find attempting to dismantle the machine a rather suspect activity.

  8. You forgot one type of people... by Skim123 · · Score: 2
    Make that three: Or perhaps I'm being redundant. :-p
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  9. Not new! by netik · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't see how this is anything new.

    Odyssey makes machines that do this already (boot from a central server, and play the games the server hands to it) and the majority of slot machines that exist on the casino floor already have ethernet and share the odds distribution between them.

    This keeps odds at 1:600, or whatever they need to be instead of NSlotmachines:600.

  10. Nothing new by rhvarona · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This is old news...

    I have implemented one of these systems. Many of the newer slot machines have been getting results from a central database for at least a decade. The results typically are generated from a few days to a few weeks in advance, which lets the casino confirm the payout percentages before making the gameset go live.

    The way to look at it though is that the Casino does not care if you win big. In fact, the casino likes big jackpots, the bigger the better, because they more than make up for in the the extra attention they get. More attention = More players = More dollars played

    They win a certain percent of every dollar played. The more dollars that get played the more they win.

  11. Wrong by brunes69 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ah, there we go! Just quickly change the odds behind the backs of the players so you can reek in more... and market it as "personalized" playing experience. There is no step two...

    You can't do that, it is illegal, at least in Nevada.

    If you would rad up on the subject a bit more, you would see the point of this change is that the casino can compute far in advance the results for every pull of the slot, so that they can know the payout percentages in advance. This way, they can schedule the big jackpots, for instance.

    Main point is, they cannot change the odds of machines on the fly - the odds need to be posted.

  12. Re:Just changing the angle of attack... by tacarat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, for one thing, it's a single point for security updates and monitoring. If the slots are basically dumb terminals, the software load can be re-installed regularly to help minimize the window of opportunity for injected code. If it's a normal client/server deal, then there can still be scans for software tampering. Given this is /. and that SuperSAS is an open gaming protocol, I think that the "many eyes" security concept they're using is very practical. We know the casinos will be more than willing to pay for expert programmers to review the code, and that more than one casino would want to have the code checked out (get your resumes ready!).

    As for the monitoring the communications, the casinos could use the strongest proven encryption possible and change the keys weekly, daily, or even hourly because they own the entire system. Each machine could even have it's own key, separate of the others (assuming PKI like implementation, the server could reply with a unique key to each node as well). Most people forget that the point of encryption is that the information assumed have been intercepted by a third party, but won't be useful by the time it's cracked. If crackers get to the point they can crack the casino's keys in 1 day, it wouldn't matter if the keys are changed hourly. Before that happened, though, they'd have long been investigating a new algorithm

    As for being vulnerable to an inside job, you're right. The hard shell always has a soft, squishy center. Thing is, that's something that will never change. The only thing for them to do is have audits in place to limit the ability for people to aquire the information or access to set up a job like that by themselves. If nothing else, they should be able to do an audit and figure out who was involved after the fact.

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  13. History...and clearing up some stuff by axoi · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've seen that the usual slashdot crowd is a little lax on history. Here are a few tidbits that I know:

    1. Gaming accounting systems started around 1978. It was a Bally that started it, I believe. Running on a PDP11 in the back room. Keeping meter, drop and win percentage histories as required by gaming control.

    2. Slot machines have been hooked up since that time using plain serial lines. Most use a form of encryption for the amounts and ticket validation ids.

    3. This server based gaming thing isn't new but its just now starting to get approvals from GLI and NGCB ( gaming commisions in the US. ) The hard part has always been getting a hard drive into the dumb terminal. My guess is they finally found a way around that. That way they could just download the paytables ( not the personality which is the hold percentage which is heavily regulated BTW ) and not all the graphics and game code.

    I do know that the NGCB looks at trend analysis of payoff data to confirm hold % over a period of time.