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Weather Service Becoming More Tech Friendly

awgy writes "The National Weather Service recently began offering XML/RSS feeds of their alerts, observations, and forecasts. Now the Tulsa, OK Forecast Office is experimenting with offering forecast files for Google Earth. It looks like the National Weather Service is quickly becoming one of the most geek-friendly government agencies."

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  1. Get your forecast on your cell phone by HMA2000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It even gives you a radar image. Works well in bars and cars especially.

    http://mobile.srh.weather.gov/

  2. Poster reveals his youth? by JabberWokky · · Score: 5, Informative
    They always have been - they just hadn't upgraded in awhile. Back in the 80s, you could pull forecasts and weather alerts off their ftp server and as gopher and the web were invented, they gave access to those new technologies. I think they even had a finger service.

    This was long before XML, so they invented their own format called METAR, no more difficult than, say, email. It was standard, and they have made it public for decades.

    "Becoming one of the most geek-friendly government agencies"? They always have been!

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    1. Re:Poster reveals his youth? by kabz · · Score: 5, Informative
      Aaaarrrrggghhhh!! METAR, the bane of student pilots everywhere, but it *is* ok once you get used to it.
      KIAH 190953Z 00000KT 10SM CLR 24/23 A2997 RMK AO2 SLP148 T02440233 $

      It's not really surprising that the weather service is kinda geeky. Most of it probably rubbed off from pilots who are probably in the top 3 geeky professions.
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  3. weatherbug hack by kcornwell · · Score: 3, Informative

    Script for weatherbug data... http://www.hotscripts.com/Detailed/45726.html

  4. Re:I wonder if their info is superior to AccuWeath by finkployd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Besides, don't they just get their data from the gov't and process it?

    Basically yes, which is why they have been lobbying so hard recently to get the national weather service to stop giving out all this user friendly data. It hurts their business model.

    Finkployd

  5. This could go dark.. by CSHARP123 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Recently a Senator (Rick Santorum, R-PA )introduced a bill prohibiting federal meteorologists from competing with companies such as AccuWeather and The Weather Channel. Now we can get this information for free. When this kind of bill gets passed we need to pay to get weather information.

  6. Re:The same weather service by Bimo_Dude · · Score: 3, Informative
    I pay for them to gather the weather, why should I have to pay accuweather to give it to me in a more readable format.

    None of should have to pay accuweather for data that we've already paid for. This bill in the US Senate is still pending. Given that the NWS is still going forward with making this data available, I don't think that the folks at the NWS support the bill.

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  7. Basically private weather trying to shut off gov by acomj · · Score: 4, Informative

    The parent alludes to it, but basically private weather companies (many in PA) are trying to shut off government competetion. Because weather.gov is so good and ad free, people prefer to use it. The privates have reacted by making there sites cleaner, but its still not as good. To stop government form releasing weather data the companies are pushing a bill in the senate sponsored by rep santorum (google news search for accuweather and santorum
    one story:
    this is one of many stories about this.

    Basically because our tax dollars pay for the weather service we should be able to get this information. Interesting to note the in the UK the BBC is running into similar problems (its government sponsored as well)

  8. Re:Basically private weather trying to shut off go by bad-badtz-maru · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's even more than just private individuals now using the NWS data. My employer was paying tens of thousands of dollars a year for Accuweather forecast data that they FTPd to us daily. When the NWS started offering downloads of their GRIB US forecast files, we cancelled the Accuweather service and started using the GRIBs.

    The funny thing is that it wasn't really a financially driven decision for us. We wanted the forecast information for every zipcode whereas Accuweather forced us to request the addition of new forecast zipcodes one by one from their sales rep. The sales rep would then insist on finding out what new customer of ours was using the data, and the sales rep would then contact +our+ customer to try to sell them additional weather services. We are not in the weather service business and it was very, very annoying.

  9. Re:Impressive by DarthBart · · Score: 4, Informative

    The best you could possibly get, unless you plugged directly into the radar site is every 6 minutes. The radar sites only transmit new product images every 6 minutes when they're in rain mode, and only every 10 minutes when they're in clear-sky mode.

    If you want as-up-to-date as possible, you need to get the NOAAPORT feed directly from satellite. If you've got access to an old 10-12 foot TVRO satellite dish, you can get either a DVB data receiver or a DVB card and the appropriate software from noaaport.net.

  10. Re:Impressive by zefram+cochrane · · Score: 3, Informative

    The WSR-88D is actually able to discern 15 different elevation angles in it's scanning strategies. However, these change depending on whether or not the radar is in Clear Air or Precipitation mode, where Clear Air mode is more sensitive that Precipitation mode. This site contains a bunch of information about the WSR-88D radar. WSR-88D Radar Information (weather.cod.edu) Unlike the radar displays from tv stations that you see, the NWS radars do not allow even the meteorologists to see a "live update" instead the returns are every 5-10 min depending on the operating mode of the radar at the time. As well, the various products are all calculated from the base data (reflectivity, velocity, spectral width, etc.) on each scan.

  11. Same here in Canada by Lord+Satri · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because weather.gov is so good and ad free, people prefer to use it.

    Same here in Canada. The govermental weather site is the most visited website of Canada (about 18 millions hits per day IIRC). http://weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/

    For-profit organizations try to offer value-added products, but it's crippled with ads. And what many clients do not know, they (example http://meteomedia.com/) basicly simply repackage and reinterpret the data the government sells them (I work for the Canadian Meteorological Centre :-).

  12. Santorum by ZosX · · Score: 3, Informative

    To those who don't know. Rick Santorum (bought and sold by accuweather which is a Pennsylvania corp) is proposing a bill that would kill free NWS information in favor of paid for info from greedy corporations like Accuweather. Since the NWS provides the bulk of Accuweather's infornation, we would essentially be paying a tax on this information and then paying accuweather to present it to us. It is almost like letting companies charge tolls on public roads that were built with public tax dollars. Pretty great huh?

    For those of you who realize what a douchebag Rick Santorum is, I bring you the following link:

    http://www.spreadingsantorum.com/

    Also, here is a link about his proposed bill to the No Child Left behind act forcing educators to talk about "Intelligent" design. (Oh the irony!)

    Santorum Amendment

    Here is a link to the wikipedia arcticle about the comments he made that started the whole gay controversy.

    Santorum Controversy

    Enjoy.

    You know, if more young people voted in America, it would be my hope that scumbags such as Santorum wouldn't see the light of day. Campaign donations need to be the first to go. What the bill that santorum is introducing would do is cut the public off from something that it pays for and something that Accuweather uses. Do you think accuweather has their own satellites up there? We don't need accuweather. We NEED the NWS.