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MS & Game Rentals

pin_gween writes "Technology News says Microsoft has entered an agreement with Exent to provide On-Demand Video Games. So far, only 6 Microsoft games are licensed to the on-demand service (which costs from US$4.95 to $14.95 a month for access to anywhere from 50 to 300 titles). MS titles are "Age of Empire," "Age of Mythology," "Dungeon Siege," "Mechwarrior," "Rise of Nations" and "Zoo Tycoon." Exent lured MS with the "the shelf life can be prolonged and create additional revenue for the publisher not generated by the retail channel"."

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  1. How long until this is cracked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is going to be like that Quake shareware CD, free games for everyone!

    1. Re:How long until this is cracked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes it was cracked shortly after it was released with a program called qcrack. It also gave you access to the full versions of Heretic, Hexen, Doom I, Doom II, and a bunch of other games that were on the CD. It was like Christmas all over again when that crack came out.

    2. Re:How long until this is cracked? by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 2, Funny

      Whoa, this is cool. I can actually hold a direct conversation with someone from 1999 if I wanted to :)

    3. Re:How long until this is cracked? by superpulpsicle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem is not the fun factor. The problem is the "difficulty" factor. With the exception of sports games, I haven't beaten a game in like 5 years without www.gamefaqs.com. Whatever happened to the days when games weren't frustrating and packed with puzzles.

  2. Yes... Just what the doctor ordered... by Fallen+Kell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because you all know you want those 3-4 year old games for $5-15 month charge when you can buy then for $5 bucks...

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    1. Re:Yes... Just what the doctor ordered... by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Most of the time I finish a game I never play it again. Most of the movies I watch I never watch again.

      I think a subscription business model for video games and movies is a good idea. You can always buy the ones you want to play over and over...

    2. Re:Yes... Just what the doctor ordered... by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Because you all know you want those 3-4 year old games for $5-15 month charge when you can buy then for $5 bucks..."

      If the game selection's interesting, I'd much prefer this service. Mainly because I don't like rummaging through bargain bins nor do I typically find them as cheap as $5.

      Then again, anything can be made to sound stupid if you leave out the right details.

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  3. Re:Valve by WTBF · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Steam is only purchasing games ove rthe internet, this seems more like renting them.

  4. The Borg Jokes Are Dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
    from the your-games-have-been-assimilated dept.

    How much farther can geeks beat a joke into the ground? The Microsoft Borg joke wasn't funny to begin with, yet slashdot keeps flogging it to death for some reason. Our of all the topic icons on slashdot, only Microsoft gets the crappy, derogatory icon. Why is that? There's no good reason you guys can't use the MS logo just like for all the others. It's also funny how many Microsoft ads there are on slashdot. You guys hate them so much, yet have no problem taking their advertising dollars. Nice hypocrisy there.

    1. Re:The Borg Jokes Are Dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "The Microsoft Borg joke wasn't funny to begin with"

      According to you.

      "yet slashdot keeps flogging it to death for some reason."

      Slashdot flogs many jokes to death. Why make an exception?

      "only Microsoft gets the crappy, derogatory icon. Why is that?"

      Because their business practices are crappy at best and they have been found guilty of abusing their monopoly on varying occasions. If they had turned over a new leaf and stopped being so crappy to other businesses and people then perhaps you'd have a point.

      "There's no good reason you guys can't use the MS logo just like for all the others."

      Got me there....oh hang on, perhaps the editors are worried about microsoft coming around with another of their BS lawsuits because the owners don't have permission to use their logo. Then again, perhaps the ed's still think it's funny...

      "It's also funny how many Microsoft ads there are on slashdot. You guys hate them so much, yet have no problem taking their advertising dollars. Nice hypocrisy there."

      Slashdot is owned by OSDN. They don't control the ads. Perhaps a little more homework was needed before you wrote that?

      Oh, and no, I don't hate Windows. I just don't like random rants at the people running a site you don't have to visit.

    2. Re:The Borg Jokes Are Dead by Burpmaster · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The Microsoft Borg joke wasn't funny to begin with [...]
      Come on, even Bill Gates thinks it's funny.
    3. Re:The Borg Jokes Are Dead by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 2, Funny

      All your games a...

      Errr, sorry.

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    4. Re:The Borg Jokes Are Dead by stare_at_the_sun · · Score: 2, Interesting
      yet have no problem taking their advertising dollars

      I don't think Microsoft would spend so much advertising money on slashdot if it weren't doing some "good." It must be an effective use of their money. They must be getting some return on investment. Could it be (heresy of herisies!) that in spite of all the vocal and popular MS criticism, most slashdotters purchase microsoft products? I mean - we must be clicking on the little MS Visual Studio .NET ad by the thousands. And what percentage of us has really not bought MS products?? We must be both their worst enemy and their best friend.

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    5. Re:The Borg Jokes Are Dead by kesuki · · Score: 2, Funny

      How much farther can geeks beat a joke into the ground?

      there are some questions you don't want to have answered. trust me. the last time someone asked how far a geek could beat a dead joke intot he ground someone hypothosized the distant in light years.. i beleive they came ue with 31.337 light years into the ground, as how far a geek could beat a dead joke into the ground. It's funny, laugh! you insensitive clod! accept my pathetic humour that makes me giggle uncontrollably!!

    6. Re:The Borg Jokes Are Dead by Dachannien · · Score: 2, Funny

      There's no hypocrisy. And here's another overused joke for you to bitch about:

      1. Slashdot takes Microsoft's advertising money.
      2. Slashdot runs Microsoft's ads.
      3. Slashdot readers block, ignore, or laugh at Microsoft's ads.
      4. Microsoft doesn't sell any more software because of those ads.
      5. ???
      6. Profit!!

    7. Re:The Borg Jokes Are Dead by grimharvest · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh lord, here we go again. Do you not understand that this site was started by a Linux enthusiast and continues to be part of an Open Source network of sites? Microsoft has their own forums. Don't like the way MS is portrayed here, then go there. Because I'm pretty sure I can go to any pro-Microsoft forum and read all kinds of anti-Open Source diatribes there. So grow up or move on.

    8. Re:The Borg Jokes Are Dead by gabebear · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wow Bill looks old in that picture... He's turning 50 in October but I'd think someone that rich wouldn't be showing their age that much.

    9. Re:The Borg Jokes Are Dead by JeremyALogan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Apple doesn't do open source? Don't tell the Open Darwin folks, or the KHTML folks, or.... No, they don't produce ONLY OSS software, but they definately give back to the community. Oh yeah... they also aren't convicted anti-competative monopolists. Got any more examples? IBM? They're on here weekly for giving code to the OSS movement. SCO? We only bash them too. Most of us don't hate Microsoft because they don't write OSS code... we hate them because they're anti-competative and do illegal and immoral things.

  5. SegaChannel by blueadept1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In the 90's there was a thing here called "SegaChannel" by the local cable company (Rogers). It was $30.00 a month, and you got access to about 50-100 games, that changed about half of them every month.

    We need that back! It was probably the most value that I have ever gotten for my money to do with games. (excluding free)

    1. Re:SegaChannel by damiangerous · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It wasn't something dreamed up by your local cable company. The Sega Channel was created by...Sega, and it was pretty much everywhere in North America (and I think the UK too). It was a cool concept, it actually worked, and it had "exclusive downloadable content" like import-only games way ahead of its time. I seem to recall it being $24.95 here (from the now defunct TCI cable). Unfortunately, it came too late in the life of the Genesis to really catch on.

  6. Age of Empire by Meagermanx · · Score: 5, Funny

    Age of Empire. It's like Age of Empires, but with just one!

    1. Re:Age of Empire by joelsanda · · Score: 2, Funny

      Age of Empire. It's like Age of Empires, but with just one!

      LOL. Yeah, it's the Evil Empire. You spend all your time shelling penguins with ideas copied from a smaller but better village down the valley with a tribe named The Panthers.

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  7. Sure, why not? by phaetonic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd rather download a program via my broadband in a few minutes to an hour sometimes than go to a video rental store only to find the copy they said was available over the phone is not able to be found. However, the titles MS is offering leaves much to be desired.

  8. Only Hardcore Gamers Need Apply by Dr+Tom+Danger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh ya, I can't wait to shell out 14.95 for a solid MONTH of Zoo Tycon. Where does the time go?

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  9. a more likely reason by frovingslosh · · Score: 3, Interesting
    "the shelf life can be prolonged and create additional revenue for the publisher not generated by the retail channel"

    I'm not very familiar with the Microsoft game line, but are not most or all of the games offered ones that there has been a follow-up sequel to? Might Microsoft not see this as a way to gain revenue while at the same time use an old version of a game to promote a newer version of the game? I noticed the obvious absence of the Microsoft "Train Simulator" here, the game that even beta testers reported in bug reports "Unable to have fun with this game" and suspect it's because there is no sequel (the game rapidly lost it's shelf space). So while other companies sometimes release an older title into the wild as a way to promote a newer version, Bill has decided to charge users a reoccuring monthly fee for people to receive such promotions of new games. Nothing new there from the way Microsoft normally views their customers.

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  10. XBox 2 by Saiyine · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe is just a purchase in anticipation of a valve's steam like download service for the new xbox 2??

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  11. Good idea by JPriest · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think I actually have to credit MS here with doing something fairly original. I think at the right price a game subscribtion service would be a good thing for people like me who play games for 2 weeks and shelve them.

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  12. How about newer games? by antdude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These games are old. How about a selection of newer games?

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  13. Rent? by EK103 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why would anyone rent games online when you can just... uhh... nm :P

  14. What a Pathetically Stupid Idea by ewhac · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm pleased to see that Microsoft has started early in pissing off their distributors and retailers, who really don't appreciate vendors doing an end-run around them, leaving them with shelf stock that's harder to sell.

    That said, I don't think the retailers have anything to worry about immediately, as you'd have to be an idiot to pay $14.95 a month to rent a game you can buy for $20.00.

    I just bought a copy of Dungeon Siege, which included the Legends of Aranna expansion pack, for $20.00 at Fry's. Not only do I own the damn thing and not get dunned every month, but I also don't have to install some insidious piece of spyware/copy-protection enforcement sh*t which phones home reporting my usage and any other damn thing they "need" to know about. Mechwarrior 4 can also be found on the cheap rack for $20.00. And if you really want an amazing bargain, grab Loki's Descent 3 for $4.95, which includes the Mercenary expansion pack.

    This is a really, really dumb idea.

    Schwab

  15. Why isn't this more popular already? by AtlanticCarbon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As other posters have mentioned, we gamers do have the desire to get games over the net. Not only that, a lot of games that don't have much replayability and I'm satisfied with a rental.

    Why are there only old games? What about even selling games digitally (yeah, I'd accept some DRM crap for the convience)?

    So what's the holdup?

  16. From TFA by MrCopilot · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Joe Blancato, writing for the WarCry Network, a nest of Web sites that attracts more than one million enthusiasts of games, technology and entertainment, observed of the Microsoft-Exent deal:

    "It's just another baby step toward the death of retail, that glorious day when we're not paying $20 for a box and $20 for a game. Instead, we'll probably just be paying $40 for just the game, but at least it'll go into the developers' pockets rather than a publisher."



    Yeah that's what Microsoft, as a publisher, is trying to do. I do hope he is right though as a developer.

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  17. Renting software in the 90's by jesterzog · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I remember the '90's. I remember that it was actually legal for people and businesses to lend or rent, or even re-sell the software they'd purchased to other people. The only condition was that it wasn't allowed to be run in more than one place at a time. Locally, we even had rent-by-mail companies that would take out full page advertisements in magazines, and post you software to use for a limited amount of time before you were (legally) required to uninstall it and return it.

    Software companies -- not even Microsoft, but especially Microsoft -- went to great lengths to inform their customers that they were allowed to install Microsoft Word from their work onto their home PC, as long as it was only being used on one PC at a time. After all, it was clear that the software was licenced for use to the person who'd paid for it, so they were allowed to use it wherever it was most convenient for them without having to pay multiple times.

    Some software had basic copy protection (eg. flight simulator games that asked you to quote a random word from page 215 of the manual), but there was rarely serious DRM. Software companies were quite clearly concerned about software piracy, but they weren't trying to wipe out customer's existing rights to solve that problem. On the contrary, most software companies and consumers actually acted as if they "trusted" each other, compared with today.

    Somehow, this whole attitude has been lost in recent years, at least in commercial software. A major part of it seems to have been about when the media barons leapt to digital and brought all their annoying views on draconian copy protection with them. There's no way in hell you'd be allowed to casually install a work copy of MS Word on a home PC today, unless your company had a special agreement that they'd paid extra for. Even with this, there would still be DRM loopholes to jump through. You'd probably end up in jail for 15 years as an example to other "criminals" if the Microsoft-sponsored BSA lawyers had their way.

    Times change, I guess.