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Google Techs, Webmasters Mingle

Steve Nixon writes "Free-flowing beer, live music, karaoke and arcade games kept the party raging at the Googleplex the other night, but the real action was unfolding inside a sterile conference room at Google's headquarters. That's where the cunning internet entrepreneurs who constantly try to manipulate Google's search engine results for a competitive edge were trying to make the most of a rare opportunity to match wits face-to-face with the company's top engineers."

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  1. Wow by cybrthng · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Another google story?

    Cool as it is, it just aint that cool.

    Mod me down if you want, call me biased but there is tons of other "news for nerds" besides some corporation who is after your dollar.

    For some cool search news, Nutch .07 just came out - http://nutch.org/ - i'm loading it up on mozdex through next week :)

    1. Re:Wow by Alex+P+Keaton+in+da · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is just the nature of the beast- Throw in a tech company and a normal story about a company PR/Picnic event becomes tech news. This same story, but at GM or Toyota would be in an automotive trade journal. A normal small town library event that would usually be relegated to page 10 of a small town weekly newspaper ends up in political magazines if a politician shows up. It is just the way it is.
      It is an interesting story for me, even if I would never ever admit it, because secretly, I would like to party at the googleplex. But I would never admit it. The same way most men would like to party at the Playboy Mansion, many nerds (like me) would love to party at the googleplex. And the Playboy Mansion.

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      And All I Ask is a Tall Ship And a Star to Steer Her By
  2. Site was slow by tourettes · · Score: 3, Informative

    Site was slow when i tried to load it, here's the copy:

    MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. -- Free-flowing beer, live music, karaoke and arcade games kept the party raging at the Googleplex the other night, but the real action was unfolding inside a sterile conference room at Google's headquarters.
    That's where the cunning internet entrepreneurs who constantly try to manipulate Google's search engine results for a competitive edge were trying to make the most of a rare opportunity to match wits face-to-face with the company's top engineers.
    Google's code-talking experts, despite putting on a show of being helpful, weren't about to reveal their "secret sauce" -- Google's tightly guarded formula for ranking websites.
    But that didn't zap the energy from the "Google Dance" -- an annual summer party that's become a metaphor for the behind-the-scenes twists and turns that can cause websites to rise and fall in Google's search results. For the millions of websites without a well-known domain name, those rankings can mean the difference between success or failure because Google's search engine drives so much of the internet's traffic.
    "Being on the first page of Google's results is like gold," said website consultant Gordon Liametz, one of the roughly 2,000 guests at this year's party, held earlier this month at Google's colorful corporate campus.
    The webmasters and their consultants paid particularly close attention to Google engineer Matt Cutts, the company's main liaison with the webmaster community and this party's star attraction.
    "That's the Mick Jagger of search!" exclaimed e-marketing strategist Seth Wilde as he strolled by Cutts and his audience of webmasters.
    Cutts, who has worked at Google for five years, sees it differently. "I feel more like the Rick Moranis of search because I end up dealing with so many quirky and weird cases," he said.
    With so much at stake, low-ranked websites spend much time and money trying to elevate their standing, even if they must resort to deception. The tactics include "keyword stuffing" -- peppering a web page with phrases associated with a specific topic such as "laptop computers" in hopes of duping the software "spiders" that troll the internet to feed Google's growing search index.
    It's a risky strategy because Google and other search engines penalize websites that get caught gratuitously repeating the same word. In the worst cases, the offending websites are deleted from the index so they don't show up in search results at all.
    Sometimes webmasters collude to populate their sites with a large number of incoming links from other sites. This approach makes a site appear more authoritative and popular than it really is and thus rise in rankings.
    Such dirty tricks pollute the search results with websites that have little to do with a user's request, frustrating consumers, diminishing Google's credibility and threatening to undermine the company's profits by driving users to its rivals.
    Not surprisingly, Google works hard to thwart the mischief makers, sometimes branded as "Black Hats" because of their subterfuge. Engineers frequently tweak the algorithms that determine the rankings, sometimes causing websites perched at the top to fall a few notches or, worse, even plunge to the back pages of the results.
    Google's reshuffling raised so many anxieties that webmasters in 2002 began to name the changes after hurricanes and infamous events. One particularly unpopular change Google rolled out in 2003 was dubbed "Florida" after the muddled ballot count in the 2000 presidential election.
    Hoping to ease the tensions with webmasters, Google hatched the idea of its "dance" party during an annual search engine convention held in Silicon Valley, just a few miles from Google's headquarters. The company invited some of the Black Hats, effectively welcoming the foxes into the hen house.
    "Google realized it was never going to get rid of these (Black Hats), so it decided it may as well work with them," Chris Winfield, a Google Dance party veteran who runs 1

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  3. Clusty by superpulpsicle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's why I like www.clusty.com. Everyone is concerned about elevating their website so that they are the first page/topranking of Google's results. For example the word "RAM", is memory, animal and technically sex related.

    Clusty would have split into 3 separate cluster trees. In google it would just be out of balance.

    1. Re:Clusty by Paul+Carver · · Score: 4, Informative

      I just searched Google for dodge ram and every single result related to Dodge Ram trucks. The official sites were at the top, including sponsered links, and there were lots of other relatated sites. Nothing non-truck related on the first page.

      Looks to me like Google functions flawlessly in this case. If a person can't be bothered to type dodge when it's a Dodge Ram they're looking for that sounds to me like PEBKAC.

      That would be like going to any of the mapping web sites and typing in your street name without city or state. Just dumb. Names get reused, deal with it, be specific.

  4. It's the yahoo tech news feed by DavidNWelton · · Score: 4, Informative

    As seen here:

    http://news.yahoo.com/i/528

    a fairly good percentage of these go on to appear as slashdot stories.

  5. But... by BuddyJesus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What were the actual results of them going face to face? I mean, it's great to talk about all of that free beer and arcade games, but I think at the very least people here on slashdot would like to know how Google vs. Exploiters turned out.

  6. Evil? by codeshack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So apparently "don't be evil" doesn't explicitly prohibit consorting with evil, inviting evil over for cocktails, having a few drinks with evil and in a moment of passion revealing heretofore unknown details of PageRank... If Google's livelihood is contingent on destroying these people, I hope they put something in the fruit punch...

  7. Say What? by hawkeye_82 · · Score: 5, Informative

    What exactly is this article about?
    I mean, it reads like a random collection of thoughts about Google.
    IMO, not one iota of useful information.
    News for nerds? Very debatable.
    Stuff that matters? Certainly not.

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    hawkeye

    1. Re:Say What? by Frankie70 · · Score: 4, Funny


      I mean, it reads like a random collection of thoughts about Google.


      For a moment, I thought you were describing slashdot in general, not this particular article.

  8. At some point... by confusion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...does google's popularity start to wane? There's a growing sense of frustration with them, and I've found that many other search engines yield better results, so it is a matter of time before internet users at large start using something else?

    Granted, I think the reasons that their results are not good is that there are SO many of these black hats trying to pollute their index, so in a sense, they are falling victim to their own success.

    Jerry
    http://www.cyvin.org/

  9. Pointless by hexi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What is the point of the article? What is new in the article? Why is this on slashdot? What the hell?

    1. Re:Pointless by ozric99 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Taco has google stock, duh.

  10. server troubles lately by supernova87a · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Free-flowing beer, live music, karaoke and arcade games kept the party raging at the Googleplex the other night..."

    is that why gmail has been down for the last two days?