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XBox 360 Bundles Top $700

Gamespot is reporting that, with some idea of the skus that will be available for the Xbox 360 when it launches, game retailers are now prepping incredibly expensive console bundles for the first of the next-gen systems. From the article: "...when hot new gaming systems come out, supply is short, and demand is often so high that retailers can elect to sell the units only as parts of bundles that include accessories and games of the retailer's choosing. EBgames.com unveiled its holiday offerings today, and the prices may make some gamers feel as though they're getting 'scrooged.' Like Microsoft, EB Games is offering two bundles, one for gamer's interested in the Core System and one for gamers eyeing the premium package. The Xbox 360 Core Bundle is priced at $599.93, and it includes everything in the standard package, plus an extra wired controller, a 64MB memory unit, and four games: Perfect Dark Zero: Limited Edition, Dead or Alive 4, Project Gotham Racing 3, and Kameo: Elements of Power. Using Microsoft's announced pricing for peripherals and an assumed $59.99 price point for Xbox 360 games, the package unbundled would come to $618.94. "

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  1. Worked real well... by badasscat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...for the PSP, didn't it?

    Consumers aren't going to bite on this. There's a limit to what people will accept. Forced bundles worked for the PS2 but that's really the only time they've worked, and everybody knows now that if you just wait 5 minutes there will be plenty of bare systems around to buy if that's what you want.

    I have no doubt - none - that you'll be able to walk into a store on launch day, plunk down $300 or $400, and walk out with nothing but an Xbox 360 box if that's all you want. That's the way it was on PSP and DS launch day, and MS is saying they'll have a million Xbox 360's on sale at that system's launch. Save your money - don't preorder. Don't be a sucker. Show these idiots that forced bundles don't work anymore.

    1. Re:Worked real well... by apoc06 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      well, i think that the bundles work well with those people who always have to have the hot new thing first: the fanboy/ fanatic with the deep pockets. they would most likely buy all of the extras on their own anyways, and pick up two or three of the bundled games anyways. so to the buyer who preorders and or camps out opening day for a x360, the bundle isnt a nuisance. its a convenience for them, since they can be assured that they can take the system home and not have to trek out and fight their way back to the store for the next launch game they want to buy after beating x game during the first night.

      the nuisance comes for the rest of us. the budget gamers. the problem appears when they dont present us with the option. sonys psp bundle was the only option available. not really a problem, they didnt /really/ force you into buying anything the average user didnt want/ need anyways. if anything people were upset b/c they planned on buying their own headphones/ cases/ etc... anyways, and didnt want to buy them twice. im saying thats okay, because for the most part, those were accessories.

      with the x360, you could shop around for someplace without bundles and for me thats fine; i live in a major city. but if walmart and EB are the only retailers in your town you can walk in on launch day and pick one up, you will get extremely shafted if they only offer $500+ bundles. with that the average buyer ends up with something he doesnt need/ want.

      with the harddrive, you have to pay for the remote as well. with the remote you have to pay for the harddrive. you want dead or alive4, you get stuck with kameo as well. ad nauseum.

      say you want an x360, and you love halo2... so you need a harddrive for backwards compatibility. cool. you cant mail order one since all you have is a P.O. Box. you walk into your nearest retailer, and find yourself stuck having to purchase a bundle. you wanted to get a game with the system already... thats fine. but not you get three other games you have no interest in, and your pocket is $150 lighter.

    2. Re:Worked real well... by metamatic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Furthermore, if you wait a month or so, you'll be able to walk into a store and find piles of Xbox 360s sitting unsold, because that's how it was with the first Xbox.

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  2. Jesus, that's a lot for a game system by KingSkippus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not that Microsoft people read Slashdot, but in case one happens to...

    That's just too much for a game system. I usually buy the new consoles when they come out (proud owner of a PS2, XBox, and Atari 2600), but these prices have pushed them out of the realm of game system and into the realm of major electronics investment. Even the so-called "core bundle" is as expensive than what I paid for my surround-sound system. More expensive bundles are pushing what I paid for my flat screen HDTV, which is the centerpiece of my whole entertainment system.

    I know that Microsoft is trying to push the XBox 360 as a high-end electronics component, but the vast majority of people are going to just see it as a fancy game system. If you look at the official fact sheet, there is little to support anything more than that. A Windows Media Center extender? How many people do they think own Windows Media Center PCs anyway?

    I guess what I'm saying is that while the XBox 360 looks like a really kick-ass game system, $600 to $700 is just too much money to pay to watch the Dead or Alive girls do their thing.

    1. Re:Jesus, that's a lot for a game system by araczynski · · Score: 1, Insightful

      your calculations don't take into account that "back then" technology costs (in fabrication) were generally higher then they are now. besides, the 'wow' factor of owning one of the first home consoles was 'worth' much more back then then buying just another console today with more rehashed games.

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  3. Re:Feh. I'm pretty sick of Microsoft. by SeekerDarksteel · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If I understand right, Final Fantasy is now 360-exclusive. So much for Final Fantasy. :\ There's no way Square-Enix would go Xbox exclusive unless the 360 manages to gain significantly more than 1% market share in S-E's home country. It's just begging to cut out half your consumer base. However, note that in the article I just linked to it states that a separate company, run by one of the creators of Final Fantasy, will be making at least two RPGs for the 360. It doesn't state whether or not they will be exclusive but I assume they will be. That may be the source of all the FF is now Xbox exclusive rumors I've been hearing for awhile.

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  4. Yes, but its worth it by el_womble · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, but said PC wouldn't look pretty under the TV. Only since living with my significantly better half have I realised how important that feature is.

    If I've learn't one thing over the last few years: wireless controllers were invented for men who live with women. Women hate wires. They see them as mess. Mess means grief. Its worth paying more for less grief - even if it means there is a little bit of lag, and extra batteries to buy.

    Consoles tend to be quieter than PCs. Again this is important. If said better half is in the room whilst you're playing (a rarity) all they can hear is the fan, even if you've got the 5.1 turned up to 11.

    Consoles have near instant on. This is important because a good women demands a lot of attention, and doesn't like to think that her precious 'you and me' time is shared between her and a 'stupid box in the corner'. You need to be able to grab every moment you can when and if you can, instant on is important for this.

    Consoles can be bought as presents. If you live on a budget, and the better half wants to splash out on you don't ask her to buy you a new PC. She'll get it wrong. Ask her to buy you a XBox 360 and 9/10 she'll get it right and everyone is happy.

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    1. Re:Yes, but its worth it by ElleyKitten · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >>>If I've learn't one thing over the last few years: wireless controllers were invented for men who live with women. Women hate wires. They see them as mess.

      I hate generalizations, especially about women, because even though I am a woman, I have many women friends, I have lived with women, I have dated women, etc, I almost never hear a generalization about women (especially on slashdot) that applies to me or any of the women I have ever known. I have never heard a woman complain about wires because they're "a mess". I've heard them complain about wires because they don't reach the couch/bed/chair/whatever and they have to sit on the floor, or because someone tripped over the wire and messed up their game. But, usually we just get a big fluffy pillow to sit on and yell at people who come between us and our games. Though my husband has been on a kick recently that we need to replace all our controllers with wireless because the way I wrap up the cords "hurts" them. I think he's insane.

      Needless to say, I think all the other generalizations you make are crap too, but I don't feel like getting ranty about them. Just remember in the future that what is true for the woman you're with is not true for every woman.

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    2. Re:Yes, but its worth it by milkman_matt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Lag? There's absolutely no difference in performance between a Wavebird and a wired Gamecube controller. Have you actually tried using a modern wireless controller?

      I have, and my WORLD, ENDED, when my Wireless Logitech XBox controller (the big one, not the Logitech S-style wireless) died. Seriously, that is the most comfortable f'ing controller i've ever had the pleasure to use, now it's left joystick is always (although gently) stuck 'down' so I either have to keep correcting it or compensating for it with games, or ... use the wired controller until I get a new one :(

      There was never any lag that I could tell in this controller, it felt absolutely perfect in my hands, it's a good weight, nice and sturdy, and using the standard wired controllers after getting used to it for a couple years is hellish. These controllers are as close to perfect as one can get (XBox -and- PS2 Logitech Wireless)... Damn, I'm gunna go try and fix that damned thing again!

  5. Re:Da Doom for 360! by Winterblink · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But people will buy it just the same. I remember the same type of chatter that went on when the PS2 came out, and those flew off the shelves.

    When the box launches, you watch how many preorders are fulfilled and how many walk-in purchases are made. It will no doubt break records, and these pre-launch gripes about pricing will be all but forgotten. Most likely replaced with "was it worth it?" type of discussions. :)

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  6. Re:I Really Wanted To Excited For The 360 by phxbadash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is everyone saying that microsoft is behind these bundles? It's EB that has created them not MS.

    Is the whole slashdot community really full clueless asshats?

  7. For those bitching about MS by DaveCBio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do you really think that EB and other stores won't be pushing PS3 or Revolution bundles? They want to rake in as much launch cash as they can and bundles are how they do it. The thing is, as much as people bitch and whine many would have bought the same configuration anyway and you will be able to find unbundled versions as well.