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Building Secure Computers?

maotx asks: "Growing into the job of a system administrator, I've been tasked with something I'm not quite prepared for: purchase or build a computer that meets DoD compliance for classified 'Secret' information. Several vendors, including Dell our primary supplier, offers computers that will work, but being new to the criteria I want to make sure the right computer is purchased. The computer will be used to create secure CAD drawings (Solidworks, OrCAD, etc) and must have, from what I can tell, a removable hard drive and security stickers to prevent tampering. What is you're experience in setting up a secure computer and is it better to have a vendor do it, or yourself?"

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  1. Secures computers need Windowsz 95 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So sayeth the editors of Slashdot.

    1. Re:Secures computers need Windowsz 95 by jericho4.0 · · Score: 4, Funny
      "Ask Slashdot: Where New Tech Should Libraries Try Next?" posted by Cliff @ 4:30PM.

      "Ask Slashdot: Building Secures Computers?" posted by Cliff @ 7:32PM.

      He'll pass out by 10, I bet.

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    2. Re:Secures computers need Windowsz 95 by SYFer · · Score: 5, Funny

      No no no. If you'd actually read TFA, you'd see that the building in question is contructed with windows and doors so small that a computer cannot be passed through them, ergo the building does indeed secure the computers. Now that IS news for nerds!

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    3. Re:Secures computers need Windowsz 95 by Baricom · · Score: 4, Funny

      Tell me about it. Slashdot posts are the paragon of literacy, insight, and high social class. It would be utter disaster if the plebians that frequent digg were to soil the characteristic quality and originality found on Slashdot.

  2. Don't ask Slashdot by kevlar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ask the Dept of Defense. Asking Slashdot about DoD guidelines is like asking an elementary school for details about the space shuttle. No offense to /. community.

    1. Re:Don't ask Slashdot by maotx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Our facility security officer has a stack of papers that I have been reading over but it is pretty slim in details when it comes to the specifics. Network is a definate no, floppies and CDs are ok, but what about USB harddrives? Etc.

      The only reason I asked Slashdot was for a jump start. My manager says we need to have something, at least a plan, by next week.

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    2. Re:Don't ask Slashdot by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Informative


      My suggestion would be to disable floppy as well as USB, and only allow transmission of information to and from this system via CD. USB is right out...don't let anyone try to convince you otherwise...it's an unacceptable security risk. Also, only allow data to be transferred to and from a protected 'sandbox' area on the system, and make certain that autorun of CD-ROMs is disabled in the registry. One more thing: keep the system in a locked room, and personally supervise, if not actually conduct, all data transfers.

      Sure, it sounds paranoid...bit is it paranoid enough?

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    3. Re:Don't ask Slashdot by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 4, Informative

      ---My suggestion would be to disable floppy as well as USB, and only allow transmission of information to and from this system via CD.

      And I'd have the CD drive read lines under a hardware lock (like the old machines used) and have it shut off unless required.

      ---USB is right out...don't let anyone try to convince you otherwise...it's an unacceptable security risk.

      Agreed. Have only PS/2 mouse and keyboard available. Also make sure that Firewire, serial, paralell, audio jacks on CD-ROM and sound card, and all peripherial devices are GONE, removed or jacks destroyed by one incapicating method or another. Super-glue in serial ports make an awful mess to "recover".

      I, a long time ago, made an attack in which I recorded audio on a cd player through the audio jack. I was able to reconstruct the data from the "static sound". I'd call that an attack as much as hooking up a data casette to a Commie 64.

      ---Also, only allow data to be transferred to and from a protected 'sandbox' area on the system,

      I would call that "Printouts".

      ---and make certain that autorun of CD-ROMs is disabled in the registry.

      You ASSume Windows. Nobody running a secure environment would use windows, unless it's just confidential.

      ---One more thing: keep the system in a locked room, and personally supervise, if not actually conduct, all data transfers.

      Double-lock the room, use mag-locks to determine when door is opened. Record open-close actions.

      Have 2 video cams that record on any motion to a remote system (just as secure, as it could record confidential data). Have each room record the others' cameras while NEVER under any circumstances allow anybody from one get into the other room.

      Also have a 10 minute delay safe for open events to even get to the hard drive. Set up a hypergolic charge in the safe in case of tampering. Also have safe monitor open-close events.

      I also have a few ideas on unbeatable object-detection schemes, but I believe they're actually used in real Secure environments. I will not mention them.

      Still, the good ol standard of having 2 "Armed to the teeth" guards at the door always suffice as a first precaution. If you can afford this, you can have double-locking doors that 2 seperate entities must open.

      Example: To get in, you flash badge to 2 officers. You enter 1'st set of doors. You then submit to scans/checks of whatever to open 2'nd doors. To get out, you walk out the 2'nd doors, and ONLY 2 guys can open 1'st doors from outside. Very secure.

      ---Sure, it sounds paranoid...bit is it paranoid enough?

      Nope.

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    4. Re:Don't ask Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      OK... here's the basics... Excuse the AC post, but the fewer people that know you have a security clearance, the better.

      Yes, you can order from Dell, Gateway, HP, etc. The removable hard drive is employed so that when the computer is not in use the hard drive can be locked in a DoD approved container (a pretty heavy duty safe or filing cabinet, normally) that only authorized users can access. If you didn't have a removable hard drive, then the entire room the computer was housed in would need to be classified as a DoD secure space. As it is, while the computer is in use it will need to be out of sight of anyone not cleared to use it. Sometimes something as simple as a curtain is used, while others might keep the computer in a separate room or closet.

      The stickers are not for tamper proofing. Rather, they are used to remind you that you are dealing with a classified system and should treat it as such. You can use them across seals, but they aren't required. At the least, they will need to be put on the hard drive, hard drive caddy, computer case, and monitor.

      For the drives, it's probably a good idea to disable anything that you won't be using. You can leave floppy drives intact if you want, just be aware that as soon as a non-write-protected floppy goes in the drive, it is required to immediately be labeled as a classified disk and logged. You can take material from unclassified to classified systems, but not vice versa (duh, I know, but it needs to be said). Since this system will be stand-alone, you might consider disabling all the USB ports via the BIOS and just using PS2 for the mouse/keyboard. That will help prevent USB thumb drives from being used. Remember, if the system can write to it, then it has just become classified material. CDs are safe, but floppies, thumb drives, etc. are not unless they are in write-protect mode.

      Hope that helps!

    5. Re:Don't ask Slashdot by nzkbuk · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You give that version of windows too much credit.
      it wasn't "Windows NT" that got the rating (as much as M$ hyped it, and I don't remeber the exact spec, but the spec gave the EXACT make and model of computer (and hence hardware spec (that didn't include a network card)) as well as the exact patch level of NT and it specified the applications installed.

      In short it wasn't generically Windows NT, or even Windows NT4 sp2. it was much better defined than that, but that being said, yes M$ has achieved a security rating, and I'd have to agree (unlike a bunch of the posts on this topic I've seen), the security model has to fit with the company. if they are asking as a DoD contractor, the question is in the wrong place. If the question is from a company that management feels they need to secure their computing enviroment, then it's all good.

    6. Re:Don't ask Slashdot by jcr · · Score: 4, Interesting

      the spec gave the EXACT make and model of computer (and hence hardware spec (that didn't include a network card)) as well as the exact patch level of NT and it specified the applications installed.

      It also required that the entire IP stack be deleted. It was quite a joke in the computer security business at the time.

      -jcr

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    7. Re:Don't ask Slashdot by CyberSp00k · · Score: 5, Informative

      You cannot use the machine in both a classified and a non-classified environment. You will get the machine certified for a specific level of classified processing and lock it into a room that is effectively a people-sized safe. Access to the room will be controlled and only cleared and authorized people will be permitted in. They will log their entrances and exits. Each project hard drive and associated backup media will be stored in a separate, individually lockable and differently keyed drawer of a safe certified for classified processing. Users will log every item in each safe drawer and will log every time they open or close any drawer of the safe. EVERY scrap of out put from the system (optical media, magnetic media, or hardcopy) will have to be logged and controlled at both creation and destruction - destruction requires special handling and facilities.

      Issues of bootable CD-ROMS, USB data sticks, and product licensing are trivial housekeeping compared to the work you are going to have to undertake to create and maintain a secure processing facility. By the way, printers have memory and printer ribbons retain images - you have to address those items, too. Certified print required.

      If you already have a secure processing facility, you also have a certified site security officer (SSO) who has been trained in the use and requirements of the NISPOM. You should be talking to this person, not us.

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    8. Re:Don't ask Slashdot by HD+Webdev · · Score: 4, Funny

      USB is still thrown up in the air. I'm very uncomfortable with it but our client uses it quite often to transfer data.

      Lots of stuff WILL be thrown up in the air if someone connects a USB wireless adapter.

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    9. Re:Don't ask Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
      You ASSume Windows. Nobody running a secure environment would use windows, unless it's just confidential.

      Rubbish. Why wouldn't you use windows in a secure environment? Windows is no less secure than any other item of equipment in those situations. Ok, it may get a viral infection which hoses the system, or it may crash more frequently. Other than that nothing is likely to be a problem.

      ---One more thing: keep the system in a locked room, and personally supervise, if not actually conduct, all data transfers.
      Double-lock the room, use mag-locks to determine when door is opened. Record open-close actions.

      Have you seriously worked in a secure environment or are you making up a load of crap again? You have a code lock and some sort of ID card swipe, so you can identify who has opened the door. People have to swipe out too.

      Have 2 video cams that record on any motion to a remote system (just as secure, as it could record confidential data). Have each room record the others' cameras while NEVER under any circumstances allow anybody from one get into the other room.

      No, you do not have a remote video system anywhere near a secure computer. How secure is the wiring, how secure is the recording device?

      Also have a 10 minute delay safe for open events to even get to the hard drive. Set up a hypergolic charge in the safe in case of tampering. Also have safe monitor open-close events.

      Why? You're hardly going to be asked to open the safe at gunpoint, which is the point of time delayed safe locks.

      Still, the good ol standard of having 2 "Armed to the teeth" guards at the door always suffice as a first precaution. If you can afford this, you can have double-locking doors that 2 seperate entities must open.

      Why, again? They themselves are more a security threat.

      ---Sure, it sounds paranoid...bit is it paranoid enough?

      It addresses virtually none of the concerns that need to be addressed when dealing with Secret or Top Secret documentation.

      My recomendations are:
      1. No other eletrical equipment within a 2 metre radius of the computer, this includes telephones, desk lamps, etc
      2. Computer is not in a room with windows
      3. Computer is enclosed in a faraday cage.
      4. Computer is on a desk with no "modesty panel"
      5. Door to room where computer is is code lock and id card protected.
      6. An independant log is kept of who uses the computer when.
      7. Computer is powered on before use and off after use.
      8. Harddrive is removed when not in used and kept in a secure safe with a code lock.
      9. All staff who have access to the door to the room it is kept have security clearance. (yes, this includes the cleaners)
      10. All staff who have access to the door are well paid.
      11. the AC inlet to the computer is shielded from other AC cables and is seperated by at least a metre airspace from other cables.

      The weakest link in all security is people - keep strict control on those who have access and when, this includes security staff.

    10. Re:Don't ask Slashdot by CyberSp00k · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sigh!

      The link you refer to points to material that is up to two decades old. The assurance levels you refer to (A, B, and C) are from the Orange Book, the seminal work of the Rainbow Series of security development manuals produced for the U.S. DoD.

      The Rainbow Series was superceded in 1996 by the Common Criteria, an international agreement about security functional requirements, assurance requirements, and the processes needed to evaluate the security characteristics of IT products. Products that have met the requirements and undergone the process are listed in an Evaluated Products List. Among operating systems that have met the Common Criteria requirements are Mac OS X, Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS/WS 3, Solaris 9, SuSE Linux Enteprise Server V8, and Windows 2000 Server. All of these must be run on specific hardware configurations and with specific software configurations to retain their certified status in an operational environment. A recent project I was working on needed an HTML-based interface - imagine creating that on a Linux box that could not run X or even activate the frame buffer!

      Secure systems are not just platforms that resist the latest script kiddie 'sploit. A system includes people, processes, hardware, software, development methodologies, and the operational environment. This is what makes a secure, assured SYSTEM, not just an expensive doorstop.

      Links of (possible) interest:

      Orange Book
      http://csrc.ncsl.nist.gov/secpubs/rainbow/std001.t xt

      Rainbow Series
      http://csrc.nist.gov/secpubs/rainbow/

      Common Criteria
      http://www.commoncriteriaportal.org/

      U.S. "Scheme"
      http://niap.nist.gov/cc-scheme/

      Evaluated Products List (EPL)
      http://niap.nist.gov/cc-scheme/vpl/vpl_type.html#o peratingsystem

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  3. A few too many 's'-es by jrockway · · Score: 5, Funny

    Buildings secure computers? Computers secure building? What?

    Oh, you meant "building secure computers".

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    1. Re:A few too many 's'-es by Basehart · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was halfway through building a lego house next to my computer to make it more secure before I realized it was a typo.

      Duh

  4. Secure computer by AVazquezR · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Build it yourself. I wouldn't rely on any manufacter.

    1. Re:Secure computer by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not if it's an Apple computer! Apple computers are not made, they are birthed from the vagina of a mystical creature who has nice tits.

      !?!

  5. I heard that... by rbarreira · · Score: 5, Funny

    I heard that the first step towards building secures computers is to be attentive to small details such as spelling and grammar.

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    1. Re:I heard that... by Mazem · · Score: 3, Funny

      That grammar is so bad it has to be intentional. I just don't get the reference.

      Ask Slashdot: Building Secures Computers?
      Security
      Posted by Cliff on Wednesday August 24, @07:32PM
      from the even-keyboard-adccess-won't-make-it-easy dept.
      maotx asks: "Growing into the job of a system administrator, I've been tasked with something I'm not quite prepared for: purchase or build a computer that meets DoD compliance for classified 'Secret' information. Several vendors, including Dell our primary supplier, offers computers that will work, but being new to the criteria I want to make sure the right computer is purchased. The computer will be used to create secure CAD drawings (Solidworks, OrCAD, etc) and must have, from what I can tell, a removable hard drive and security stickers to prevent tampering. What is you're experience in setting up a secure computer and is it better to have a vendor do it, or yourself?"

  6. You've already violated protocol... by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 3, Interesting


    Wow...where to begin...

    First of all, soliciting advice on the construction of a computer that meets DoD compliance on Slashdot , of all places, is probably not the brightest of ideas...you might want to keep this from your employers if you are interested in keeping your job.

    Second, security stickers on their own simply aren't adequate to the task at hand. Remember, you're looking for tamper-proof, not merely tamper-evident...

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    1. Re:You've already violated protocol... by maotx · · Score: 4, Informative

      First of all, soliciting advice on the construction of a computer that meets DoD compliance on Slashdot , of all places, is probably not the brightest of ideas...you might want to keep this from your employers if you are interested in keeping your job.

      I don't see a problem with it. Information on how to classify a computer is not classified.

      Second, security stickers on their own simply aren't adequate to the task at hand. Remember, you're looking for tamper-proof, not merely tamper-evident.

      The stickers are DoD required to prove that the system has not been tampered with. They are not a means of securing the computer.

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  7. Don't ask IANA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Asking Slashdot about DoD guidelines is like asking an elementary school for details about the space shuttle."

    True. But we ARE good with law, business, and economics.

    1. Re:Don't ask IANA... by utnow · · Score: 3, Funny

      You know the line about how if you put a bunch of monkeys in a room with a typewriter long enough they'll produce Shakespere? Except the Shakespere is Mad© Magazine... and the monkeys... Yeah... that's Slashdot.

  8. A building that secures computers, interesting. by Agret · · Score: 4, Funny

    How does this building secure the computers? Does it use laser cutty things like on Resident Evil?

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  9. Talk to your FSO by ostrich2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you have to set up a secured computer and your Facility Security Officer can't direct you how (roughly), then there's no way you'll get classified information on the system. It's not like you can set up a computer and all of a sudden the government will trust you to put secure information on it. You need to have a written, approved procedure for doing so. Your DIS rep has to authorize you to put stuff on the system.

    At I place I used to work, we just bought Dells. (Heck, I think we even leased them!) When they were delivered, we'd put a standard image on them that did things like warn the users before they logged on, and turned on auditing on certain directories.

  10. Re:I've never had to worry about this... by some2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    CYA is exactly why you'd want a vendor to do the build. They have E&O insurance to cover their asses if they screwed something up -- you just lose your job. Also much less work & worry for you if someone does tamper with the equipment as they will have already designed a methodology to review the break-in/tampering to determine the amount of data lost. If the company doesn't have that, don't use them.

  11. It's not about the hardware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm involved in IA (Information Assurance) on VA Class subs... for Voyage Management and Radar.

    A sticker and removable hard drive complying with IA is like saying that a power cord is what's needed to make a computer.

    At one point we had a meeting and reviewed the full blown DoD requirements for secure computing. Our estimation was that the resulting system would A) be unusable for anything due to the insane lockdown policies, and B) cost around a $million to configure and test to their specs.

    It's all about configuration.

    Ok, on the non-sensational side... other computers where I work, for dealing with classified data, are to be located in a certified secure room (forget the name of the certifying authority), and yes there is a "class" / "unclass" sticker on the PC, and yes, the hard-drive is removable, and yes must be stored in an approved safe while not being used. And access to the room is by approval only, with both a horribly hard to use combo lock, and a cipher door lock on top of that. Oh yeah, connection to the house-net is verboten. Any-net for that metter.

    And my facility is a low-brow Secret only site. Travel to certain DoD contractors with only a Secret clearance and you're treated like a second class citizen.

    It's all about configuration. (repeated intentionally)

    Be prepared for mind-numbing configuration, test and audit sessions.

    I am light on details because I do my best to stay at arms-length from IA at work... it's teh suxor

    w

  12. Re:You cannot do it most likely by maotx · · Score: 3, Informative

    To clarify:

    Our company is rated for 'secret' information. We currently have classified information, it is just paper right now. We have been requested to expand our capabilities so we may develop new products to meet the demands. We have a set of papers that are pretty light on the details of what is required for a computer to be certified for secret information, but it does not go into enough details for us to have an open mind about it. If we want a secure computer, thats easy. Case sealed with stickers, operating system and software installed on removable hard drive, no network card, and a paper trail going all the way down to the details of the last person who sneezed on it.

    What I was really trying to ask was, "In your experience, is the extra money going into a vendor worth it or, is it better just to by a chassis and setup a machine yourself?"

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  13. Too strong a word. by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Editor is too strong a word for what is done by Slashdot staff. Person who clicks button to approve story is far more accurate, although lacking a certain panache.

    Dan East

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  14. Not rocket science, but pay attention to detail. by jinx90277 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Most of what you need to know is contained on the Defense Security Services (DSS) Information Assurance website: http://www.dss.mil/infoas/ The guiding document for DoD contractors is the National Industrial Security Program Operating Manual (NISPOM). Classified systems have to go through a formal certification and accreditation process before they will be approved for classified processing. Since your ultimate goal is to satisfy the accreditor, you should contact him/her as soon as possible to have them explain what will be required and to hear their particular areas of concern so that you can address them early in your design. Security paperwork requires considerable time to fill out, and mistake can result in long delays in accreditation, or even the rejection of your system.

    However, it isn't enough to just build a system with the proper hardware and software configuration -- you also have to make sure that the physical environment and users will meet the requirements of the NISPOM. If you don't already have a facility clearance, then you have a significant issue to tackle before you can even build your system. I'm hoping that you are simply building a new computer to add to an existing classified network or house in an existing DoD closed area -- if not, you may find this to be a very daunting task.

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  15. Re:You cannot do it most likely by DaEMoN128 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No network is not a DoD requirement. Not being connected to an unencrypted netowk is. If you have an accredidted Secure Network.... you can network these. It is worth the extra money... trust me. I have been in your shoes. Contract writers like warrenties.

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  16. Drop the Bomb by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First, get your boss to sign a memo acknowledging that you're not qualified to certify computer systems as "DoD secure". Then, hire a security consultant from an insured firm which does sign a contract saying they are so qualified. Then do your best. Also, don't rely on Slashdotters' advice on how to tell if a system is "DoD secure". We're a bunch of kibbitzers on a huge website full of jokers, posers and saboteurs - indistinguishable from those with a clue.

    If you think that advice means you'll get fired, resign. Better now, than after they blame you for the inevitable security breaches. That's probably their plan anyway, in whichever management layer thought that military security is just a buzzword to get an underqualified admin to comply with.

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  17. Two methods of doing this: by toadlife · · Score: 5, Funny

    First of all you'll need a server equipped with tiny C4 charges embedded in each of the hard drives. This is a handy way of deleting data on your hard drives very quickly. I hear HP can furnish these.

    Second, you will need to hire a troupe of security guards to watch over the computer. Equip them with an M16's, and have them work in shifts, escorting users to and from the computers. If you can't afford a humans, several dozen trained monkeys will do the job. Just make sure and keep at least three extra monkeys on hand so you can replace the dead ones. You'll need at least two monkey handlers if you go the monkey route - one to watch over the monkeys and one to fill in when the first one gets shot.

    For a bit of extra security, you can purchase an used electric chair from one of the states that have switched to lethal injection and use it as the chair for the workstation. One armed guard can stand holding the red button, ready to fry to operator in case (s)he mishandles any data, or looks at the guards funny, while another guard stands ready to kill the other in case they refuse to press the red button.

    If you can't afford or find an electric chair on the retail market, submit an "ask slashdot" article and I'm sure you'll get plenty of tips on how to build one yourself.

    Or if you want to save money you could just install the super secure Gentoo Linux operating system and set it to update itself via emerge automatically every hour.

    It's your choice.

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  18. Re:Nonclassified? by Jamesday · · Score: 3, Informative

    You'd need to be prepared to deal with people hardwiring USB keyloggers to the motherboard or inserting into keyboard itself. Or inserting whatever into any other bits of the computer which are available. Add more when you might have to deal with actual professionals in the business of compromising such systems to get at their contents or install bugs for audio. Sounds like a really poor concept to try mixing use. But do ask the real experts, who I assume are your customers.

  19. Re:Don't ask Slashdot, ask an SSO/SSR/IAM/ISSO/IAS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you want some actual military assistance, respond to my email.

    Does this offer only apply to the original poster? Because I require some military assistance as well. I have two areas of concern:

    1. My neighbor keeps walking his dog in front of my house and it shits next to the sidewalk. He's supposed to clean it up, but he never does. I was hoping you could take the dog out for me.

    2. Gas will probably reach $3/gallon before too long. I know you military types are experts at liberating people, and sometimes there's petroleum, you know, sort of left over. I was wondering if you could liberate the local Sunoco for me so I can get some gas for my car for free.

    Thank you, and I eagerly await your email.





    ps remember don't ask don't tell!

  20. You won't like to hear this... by Eil · · Score: 5, Informative

    As a US Air Force member who handles information and uses computers classified as Secret, I can tell you that there's no physical difference between a Secret machine and an ordinary one. If vendors are telling you that they can build a DoD Secret classified computer, then they are simply blowing smoke up your ass.

    DoD classifications are all about policy, paperwork, and regulations. Not fancy computers. Most people, when they hear of DoD classifications and security clearances, are quick to imagine black vans, polygraph tests, and high-tech datacenters protected better than Fort Knox. Honestly, that's all a bunch of nonsense. All of the classified systems that I've used were just ordinary computers from ordinary manufacturers.

    In my current workplace, we have a standard Gateway PC with a removable hard disk and a few Panasonic Toughbooks. Nothing special at all. The only visible difference between these and the regular office PCs is that they have red stickers all over them that say "Secret" and the fact that we are not to process Secret data on the unclassified PCs and vice versa. The Gateway machine can only be connected to SIPRNET (google it) and the Toughbooks are never connected to any network. That's it. No crazy combination case locks, no biometric devices, no odd software. They all run Windows for crying out loud.

    If it is your job to configure a computer to the equivalent of DoD's Secret classification (I know you don't work for DoD or you'd already have people showing you how), I'd recommend getting whatever kind of computer will fit your needs.

    Then start looking at writing mountains of policies. The first thing you have to do is restrict physical access. This can be done by putting the machine in a locked room with no windows. A laptop would be even easier... just get a GSA-approved safe and keep it in there when it's not in use. Obviously, you would never, ever, ever connect it to any network, period. All the data going in and out should be on CDRs or USB keys and should be accountable somehow. Figure out who needs to have access to it and if they can be trusted. Be sure to emphasize that failure to follow proper security procedures is grounds for immediate termination, whether any information was compromised or not. Ensure that whenever the machine is used, there are never less than two people present. Create an emergency checklist of what to do if the building catches fire, for instance.

    That's all I can think of off the top of my head, you'll probably be able to envision a lot more with some careful thought. Good luck.

    1. Re:You won't like to hear this... by Damingo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes but there is more.

      Let a brit teach you yanks how to make a secure WS.
      Ok dropping the gump, I work for the British MoD and my job is exactaly yours, apart from I oversee (and do) the making of all WS (Work Stations) within the Defence Procurement Agency of the MoD.

      When I started making WS for the DPA they were a little less secure than the ones that Eil is suggesting. However I soon made one improvement, the inroduction of a "Magic Card", a device which returns the HDD (boot sector, fat (and no i dont mean NTFS as im talking about the actual F System), etc) to a predefined image each time the WS reboots. A rebot is demanded by the system each time a user logs off. This ensures that when a idiot user, saves data to the HDD it is deleted. This also ensures that any Temp Files (intRAnet or otherwise) are deleted.

      Otherwise we use a basic Nakard-Dell (Packard) machine, no outside lan, but access to the Defence Secured EVA System. Data is imported on a removeable drive via a second machine, which needs not be clasified (it is as the av software is, but that dosnt matter). The second machine simpaly boots to CD and runs a full virus sweep of the removeable drive, then shuts down. It has no HDD of its own, so can not actually access the clasified data. When not in use this removable HDD is kept in a SecNoFoN safe (Secret No Forign Nationals). Oh and to ensure a VScan has been run, the second machine sets a flag at the end of the storage drive, when the main pc boots it checks for this flag if it is not present it demands a VScan and shuts down (if it is present it is deleted, and the machine boots).

      As for entry into the room, it is controled by a rifid card (swipe will serve for you), which all members of the base hold (their ID Cards) and only the authorised rifid cards are granted entry to the room. The room contains a shreader and nothing more.

      I hope that this has been of some use!

      Damingo C

      p.s. The machines run a modded version of Win 2k (i have the source woot woot)/.

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      PAKA will take over the world one /. at a time. With the help of me his evil R'n'D guy
  21. Environment is more important than hardware. by joedoc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You will probably find, after digging through reams of directives, instructions and memos, that there are about a million ways to do this. I work in a military command and hold a top secret (SCI) clearance. At our site, all our classified work is done on ordinary workstations and laptops. Most of the systems are Dells purchaed off the shelf, and I've built at least one clone.

    None of those systems have removeable drives, though having them is a good idea. It makes securing them easier, something you must do in a government-approved container (i.e., a safe). The space in which the systems are located and used must be secure to the level of classified information (secret, in your case). At our site, this is a window-less room with a large vault-like steel door. The door can be secured with a combination lock and a push-button cypher lock, the latter of whch is in use at all times (the combination lock is secured after hours). All classified material (papers, discs, ect) must be stored when the space is unoccupied.

    The system will probably need to meet DOD C2 requirements, which you'll likely read about. Windows NT was close to C2, and I believe Windows 2000 is as well. The system must have positive authentication for users, appropriate warnings that appear on login, an audit trail, and ways of neutraliziing memory and swap space. Windows has a setting that clears the virtual memory/swap file on each reboot.

    As for networking, if you want to network internally within your spaces, you can set up a normal LAN, but outside access will require using a secure network like the SIPRNET. You won't have access to the outside world (i.e., the Internet). Most DOD components contract for SIPR connectivity through DISA.

    As you already know, labeling the CPU is important. You'll also need to label media, and keeping a log of all storage media in use is a pretty good idea to CYA. In fact, some places require it. You might also want to find out about the need for secondary storage off-site. If this is going to be a requirement, you'll need to find a similarly-classified place that you trust to stow your backup materials.

    You will need to follow the DOD rules on destruction of drives and disks no longer in use...you just can't toss old floppies or hard drives onto the 20-year pile in your office. Research the destruction procedures, and learn to store unused material until you can have it destroyed.

    You can buy shredders that will eat CDs and diskettes, but they have to be classified for the security level. Don't use the $29 Office Max shredder on sale for this.

    The real key is getting users to follow the rules. Users, as you know, are the biggest pain in the ass, and you'll always be on top of them to keep the spaces sanitized. Remind them that once they save any classified material to removable storage, that storage is now classified and cannot be used outside of the environment.

    Aren't you glad you have to do this?

    --
    Joe Dougherty, Florida, USA
    The words I thought I brought, I left behind. So, never mind.
  22. Re:Don't ask Slashdot, ask an SSO/SSR/IAM/ISSO/IAS by syousef · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I love that. Don't go to /. on military security, EMAIL me. He doesn't even KNOW you, so how are you going to become a trusted source.

    This guys is a bonehead asking for advice on /. "Dear /., I want to make a secure boxen to do top secret security stuff on. How do I do it?" How about "don't tell the world you're setting up a secure box, and don't take advice from strangers. Talk to the DoD yourself!

    And to you. Shame on you for replying on /. Personally if I were you I'd steer well clear so he doesn't take me down with him.

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    These posts express my own personal views, not those of my employer
  23. ATTN: Mods, this guy is a dimwit please mod down by CHESTER+COPPERPOT · · Score: 5, Informative

    Any of you /.'ers ever study art history? Here is a little lesson about fraud.

    In the Art world when a piece of Art has a past where the time record has some glitches in it (Read: unaccountable) it is automatically considered a fraud. When things don't have a timeline, like this guys posting record here and the fact that his myspace profile says he is 19, you gotta know something is up.

    Congratulations though /. mods. You just got social engineered.

  24. MOD PARENT UP by Adam9 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Taken from GP's Myspace profile:

    thomas's Blurbs
    About me:
    if u really want to know just ask
    Who I'd like to meet:
    i would like to meet peopl from hawaii but i like meeting other people too.


    thomas's Details
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  25. Seriously by TheCabal · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you're working for the DoD, you'll need a system that has been certified to handle classified material. The certification process means that it has undergone DITSCAP and meets certain criteria such as EMSEC. You really don't want to be homebrewing a machine that is going to be processing classified material, especially if it's not certified.

  26. The Zeroth and First Steps... by harmless_mammal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As a practicing Information System Security Officer myself, there's two things you need to complete before you install anything:

    Step 0:

    You must get the proper briefings from your site's Information Systems Security Manager.

    At a minimum, you will need to get a Software Validation briefing and possibly an ISSO briefing.

    If you haven't completed an SV briefing, then you are not authorized to install ANY operating system on classified hardware.

    You will need the ISSO briefing if you are responsible for creating user accounts or are responsible for maintaining the audit records for the system.

    Step 1:

    You must have a System Security Plan (SSP). This document tells you how your system must be configured, both in terms of physical security and system/network security.

    Your SSP, and any systems created under it, need an Interim Approval To Operate (IATO) from the Defense Security Service before you can begin processing classified information.

    If you have an existing (approved!) SSP, and your ISSM is authorized to self-certify the OS you are using, then things can happen relatively quickly.

    If you do NOT have a pre-existing (approved!) SSP for this new system, then you could be looking at months before your new system is cleared for classified processing.

  27. Sample of data by Alain+Williams · · Score: 4, Funny

    Please send me a sample of the data that you are trying to keep secret - this will enable me to best work out how to keep it secure ....