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Creative Zens Ship with Worms

An anonymous reader writes "Engadget reports about 3700 Creative Zen "Neeons" shipped with a virus. The virus in question was the W32.Wullik.B@mm worm. Creative released a statement today to help consumers pinpoint the possibly effected devices."

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  1. I swear I'm not a grammar geek by coshx · · Score: 5, Informative

    but shouldn't it be affected?
    the possibly effected devices means the devices that possibly came into existence because of the worm.

    1. Re:I swear I'm not a grammar geek by Punkrokkr · · Score: 2, Informative

      You beat me to it. I honestly was confused for a moment when I first read that.

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      There's no emoticon for what I'm feeling! -- CBG, "The Computer Wore Menace Shoes"
    2. Re:I swear I'm not a grammar geek by hackstraw · · Score: 2, Informative


      Yes, its affected and not effected. That is one of my pet peeves as well. Also, the incorrect distinction between 'bring' and 'take' gets me as well.

      When I was in highschool English class we used the "Elements of Style" book that is now in the public domain here: http://www.bartleby.com/141/. It clears up commonly misused expressions like these.

      (Now lets hope I didn't make a silly grammar mistake like I always do when correcting someone :)

  2. That isn't Engrish by labradort · · Score: 1, Informative

    In case anyone is fooled into thinking the
    Creative press release was horrible Engrish,
    that was a bablefish link.

    It is unfortunate we don't have an english
    version yet, if that is the market effected by
    this.

  3. Re:Not the first, won't be the last by jarich · · Score: 5, Informative
    Flamebait?

    When I see the "quality" of /. comments, especially compared to just a year or ago, I realize it's populated with the younger generation, but things like this confirm it.

    It's not flamebait, you just don't remember it happening. I wasn't referring to Windows itself.

    Here are a few examples:

    http://www.idg.co.nz/cw.nsf/0/CC256D400014E76CCC25 6A3A00806895?OpenDocument&Type=Column&More=Virus/ Microsoft makes the virus news section too, with confirmation that it shipped some hotfixes infected with the rather nasty (but old and well-detected by antivirus software) FunLove virus

    http://news.com.com/2100-1001-935994.html/ Microsoft accidentally sent the virulent Nimda worm to South Korean developers when it distributed Korean-language versions of Visual Studio .Net

    It doesn't MS is evil, it means they are human. Any company that ships tons of software will ~eventually~ make a mistake.

    Today it's Creative's turn.

  4. Okay, a link to the original without babelfish by Joseph_Daniel_Zukige · · Score: 3, Informative

    For those who, like me, prefer reading intelligible Japanese over machine translation, here.

    Once upon a time I remembered that %2f was slash and %3f was question mark, etc.

  5. Re:Why do I somehow think that.. by Henriok · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Do mac users run virus scanners often?"

    There are quite a lot of Mac users that have anti virus installed. Mostly because they fall for the virus hysteria in the Windows centric press, and thinks that it applies to them too, but also because they don't want to risk sending a virus infected document or mail to a Windows user by mistake. Even if the virus didn't infect the Mac itself.

    "How do they know if they have viruses that aren't commonly known yet?"

    There are exactly zero known viruses for Mac OS X right this minute. If one would emerge it will be commonly known in the Mac community quite fast. It is a closely knit community after all.

    "I keep virus scanner running on my linux machines just in case, and it disinfects few files every now and then."

    Prudent, but it's mostly for the benefit of your Windows friends.

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    - Henrik

    - when the Shadows descend -
  6. Re:That's why Win32 in a factory is a bad idea by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Informative

    What happens in a few years time when a Linux based virus spreads and all those "security by obscurity" factories and workshops are compromised?

    Understand that Linux is not a shining light that will be 100% watertight, if market share increases, more eyes will be on it and the potential for a major virus outbreak grows (tbh, I think the entry points will come from an application rather than the kernel but thats just the way it is)

    Any operating system can be made secure by following proper procedure and keeping ontop of security announcements.

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    liqbase :: faster than paper
  7. Poorly edited news post by theraccoon · · Score: 5, Informative
    The author of the post and the editor who posted it both failed to mention that this only affects models shipped in Japan. The link to the creative page is a babelfish translated website! Plus, the engadget page says that in order to become infected, you'll need to "go running conspicuous applications found on your device".

    Why does this sound like some Mac/iPod anonymous fanatic kicking dust?

  8. Re:Product Liability by cocotoni · · Score: 2, Informative
    Although it isn't the first case of software shipping with malware
    The worst had to be MicroSoft sending CDs of Korean version of Visual Studio .NET infected with Nimda worm. As can be seen here.
  9. Motherboards catching fire by cps42 · · Score: 2, Informative

    You may not have had Dell 1650s installed a while back, but there was a recall in 2003 because a voltage regulator on the MB overheated and could catch fire: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-5145372.html?ta g=zdfd.newsfeed

  10. Re:They not only didn't virus check... by TheoMurpse · · Score: 2, Informative

    If your complaints against the grammar come from the second link in the blurb, it is machine translation from Japanese to English via Babelfish. On the contrary, the original Japanese was written well enough.

    For any Japanophiles in the house, for the translation It regards the problem of the Creative Zen Neeon digital audio player, the original was Creative Zen Neeon Digital Audio Player [dejitaru o-d'io pure-ya-] no mondai ni kan suru, which is better translated as regarding the problem with the Creative Zen Neoon DAP.

  11. Very impressed with the full disclosure. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    If you read the statement provided by Creative, you'll see that the serial numbers of the affected units are listed, and that Creative apologizes deeply for the problem. (yeah, it's babelfish translated, but you get the point)

    This is an ASIA-ONLY problem.

    Please get your facts straight before wanking all over the place about this. It happens, and since the virus is on the player in a place where it is extremely unlikely to be executed by a customer, this is not a big deal at all, and I'm sure it's a big wake-up call for Creative's Asian QA department, if they had anything to do with it.