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Refilling Ink Cartridges Now a Crime?

Eric Smith writes "The Ninth Circuit has created box-wrap patent licenses. Now the label on the box that says "single use only" is given force of law, and if you refill the cartridge you are liable for patent infringement."

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  1. using other containers have same 'crime'? by lecithin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So can I still fill up used bottled water bottles with my tap water if it is labled '1 liter'?

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  2. Meh... by Ceirren · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean, who ever listens to those "one use only" instructions? Those condoms can last a long time.

    1. Re:Meh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Since you post on Slashdot, the procedure of "using" a condom must be as follows:

      Inflate.. fly, condom, fly!.. inflate.. fly, condom, fly!.. inflate..

    2. Re:Meh... by Mechcozmo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Toilet paper is double sided for a reason!

  3. You lose. by mfh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I feel that if I see a better value in a product, I will tend to buy it. If I can reuse a product, the product has more value. Therefore, if this policy will prevent me from refilling a certain brand of ink cartridge, I will simply buy a different brand.

    Getting down to ownership; if I buy something, I guess it's not really mine, eh? Stop me.

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  4. So much for the "doctrine of first sale" by Eric+Smith · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The doctrine of first sale normally means that the first unrestricted sale of a particular device embodying a patent "exhausts" the patent-holders control over the use of the patent in that particular device. In other words, once you buy a DVD that the manufacturer has licensed for the MPEG patents, the MPEG patent holders can't later tell you that you are not allowed to use the DVD player to watch MPEG content on Thursdays, or that you're not allowed to resell the player.

    Apparently the Ninth Circuit thinks that the labelling "single use only" on the box is a legally binding contract, and thus the sale of the product to a consumer is not an "unrestricted sale".

    If this is upheld, we can expect that soon all patent holders will be asserting all sorts of control over consumer products that they currently cannot. For instance, when you buy a new cell phone, it might have a label on the box stating that it is only for use with headsets from the same manufacturer. Up until now they've only been able to try to lock you in by putting a proprietary connector on the phone, and that only works until other manufacturers start producing headsets or adapters with that connector, but under the box-wrap precedent they may be able to use force of law to keep you from using an Ericsson headset with a Nokia phone.

  5. Yeah yeah yeah by Lord+Kano · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Conservatives have been screaming for about a decade about hot the 9th circuit is insane.

    Now that one of their decisions will effect soccer moms and art students, maybe something will be done about it.

    LK

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  6. Read the opinion please. by Phosphor3k · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not as cut and dry as the story title and summary implies.

    Lexmark discounts certain cartridges with the understanding that the user will return the spent cartridges to Lexmark. Lexmark recycles the cartridges and sells them again. Lexmark got their panties in a bunch because another company was taking their prebated cartridges and recycling them, causing Lexmark to lose money. Lexmark isn't being quite as evil as they are made out to be, in this case.

    That being said, Lexmark makes my pants sad.

    1. Re:Read the opinion please. by ScriptedReplay · · Score: 5, Informative

      The point is (unless I missed it completely, in which case please correct me) Lexmark is saying "you get $30 off when you buy this cartridge if you send it back to us when it's empty." Now, if you buy it and claim the $30 rebate, you pretty much agree to ship back the empty cartridge to Lexmark - and not doing so (by refilling somewhere else) is the contract breach here.

      That does not make everything good, but at least it's not the same thing as the inflamatory /. article. Let's bash Lexmark for the actual evil things they're doing, as there are plenty of those alread.

    2. Re:Read the opinion please. by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 5, Informative
      If the business model isn't working, Lexmark doesn't necessarily have a legal recourse.

      Myabe you should actually read the ruling. The business model is working, and Lexmark doesn't need nor did they seek legal recourse.

      It was Lexmark that was sued, because the people that want to sell third-party remanufacturered cartridges are having their business hurt by Lexmark's success with this program.

  7. Informed Citizens by Seumas · · Score: 5, Funny

    Listen, citizens - in case this somehow escaped you - anything that deprives private business from accruing money is and should be criminalized. This includes sharing books, sharing information, discussing movies or letting someone else listen to your radio or watch your television.

    Any of you who behave in opposition to this way of thinking are terrorists and clearly hate America. You are either with us (corporate America) or you're against us. You evil doers will not do us.. uh.. out. There's a saying back where I come from. Take a man's fish and give him... er... uh.. . Give a man your banana and reap his fis... er.. .wait no... feed a man a melon and take his bananas...

    Good night and God bless.

  8. Madness by aussersterne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In this era of population explosion, global resource exploitation, potential global warming, etc., it is insanity to intentionally dictate that easily re-used items be turned into "single-use" consumables that thus fill landfills on one end of the chain while consuming additional resources and energy for the manufacture of identical new items (and packaging, too) at the other end of the chain-- all when the existing item(s)are perfectly fine and completely functional.

    This is the insanity of capitalism: we are running out of oil; we are filling the atmosphere with greenhouse gasses as the result of our energy use; we are clear-cutting; we are running out of easily habitable (without extra energy consumption for climate management, water movement, etc.) space; and yet the only measure with which we as a society are concerned is the measure of capital and the individual "freedom" to acquire it (by and large a lie propagated by those who hold it-- how many billionaries are in your family?), even as we consume ourselves into a planetary grave.

    It's not just conceptually consumable items like ink cartridges that could easily be re-used; it's even big-ticket items like cell phones and automobiles--millions of them end up in landfills each year while they're still perfectly good, either because they're artificially locked/behavior-controlled or because manufacturers refuse to continue to support them so that they can sell new models to individuals who demand them in part after succumbing to the forces of marketplace psychology in advertising and in part because of the real social (and thus capital) benefits that such appearances (i.e. a new auto; a new cell phone) provide as a result of the marketplace.

    The "marketplace" is merely the aggregate of individual greed and it mechanistically ignores problems that any single individual feels to be "bigger than themself" and their own desires. If you let the "marketplace" dictate environmental and social policy, you are asking for a system that (like its component individuals) completely ignores the realities of the very survival of our species in favor of giving everyone a better-tasting cola in the run-up to the planetary apocalypse.

    It is time to stop capitalism and corporatism now.

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  9. Yet Another Misleading Slashdot Headline by Trick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Christ, does *every* Slashdot headline have to be misleading and sesationalistic?

    To answer the question in the headline: No, it's not illegal to refill your Lexmark ink cartridges. What's illegal is for a company to buy up empty "one-use" cartridges, fill them back up, and resell them.

    Whether it was warranted for the court to uphold this or not, the decision does not mean what the Slashdot editors would like you to believe.

    Slashdot: News for the Gullible. Stuff that insults your intelligence.

  10. Re:Only a matter of time. by TFGeditor · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, they are moving toward this in a similar underhanded way. Here's is a related press release.

    The "Right to Repair Act"

    Your pickup engine has a minor problem, but the only clue is a cryptic "Check Engine" idiot light on the dash. The trouble could be as simple as a stuck PCV valve or faulty plug wire. It might be something more serious (read "costly") such as a confused computer control module, but without a way to read the engine diagnostic codes from the computers--and more importantly, to translate what the codes mean--even diagnosing the defect let alone performing do-it-yourself cost effective repair is impossible, and vehicle makers are downright stingy with the information. Even your local mechanic cannot get the information he needs; it is sealed inside the dealership repair shop--probably in a cipher lock safe.

    There ought to be a law.

    Well, they are working on one--the Motor Vehicle Owners Right to Repair Act.

    Since the Act, HR2048, was reintroduced in Congress on May 3 by Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX), Rep. Edolphus Towns (D-NY), and Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), and 22 additional congressmen have signed on as co-sponsors in support of the bill.

    HR2048 has garnered support and praise from many quarters, especially from the American Aftermarket Industry Association (AAIA).

    "We want to thank Representatives Barton, Towns, and Issa for spearheading this crucial piece of legislation that affects everyone who works in the aftermarket," said Kathleen Schmatz, President and CEO of AAIA. "The momentum in support of this bill is incredible as evidenced by the support of 22 additional congressmen. However, our work is just beginning. Based on the strong opposition that the car companies have been expressing on Capital Hill, we will need many more legislators signing on the bill to get it through during the current Congress."

    The Motor Vehicle Owners Right to Repair Act is truly a bi-partisan bill. Of the 25 congressmen who currently support it, 12 are Democrats, 12 are Republicans, and one is Independent.

    The legislation would that require car companies make the same service information and special tools available to independent repair shops as they provide to franchised dealer networks. Architects of the Right to Repair Act added new language to clarify that car company trade secrets are protected unless that information is provided to the franchised new car dealer. New language also provides more detail on the role of the Federal Trade Commission in enforcing the legislation.

    "It's not about taking trade secrets and proprietary information from the car companies. These are clearly protected in the legislation," Schmatz said. "It is about fair trade and protecting consumer choice."

    Independent repair shops and aftermarket accessory makers are not the only or even the targeted beneficiaries of HR2048. The language of the bill is clear that vehicle *owners* should have access to information whereby to affect repairs. One section states emphatically that vehicle owners should have access to information for "making, or having made, the necessary diagnosis, service, and repair of their motor vehicles in a timely, convenient, reliable, and affordable manner."

    Here are some facts from AAIA:

    Why This Bill Is Needed

    Current automotive technology is being used to successfully "lock out" car owners from being able to repair and maintain their own vehicles. Modern automobiles contain many computers that control virtually every component such as the braking system, steering mechanism, air bags, ignition, and the climate control system.

    Lacking the ability to "talk" to the car's computers, owners or their auto technicians cannot accurately diagnose and repair mechanical problems.

    This means that later model cars will only be serviced and repaired at automobile dealerships, which makes shopping around for the best prices and most convenien

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  11. Re:using other containers have same 'crime'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, only the original manufacturer is allowed to fill the bottle labeled "spring water" with tap water.

  12. Please lord let this stand by BlueHands · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Every time something crazy comes out such as this I pray for more of the same.

    The only way deep change will come about is when people are told that they can't modify their cars with non-GM parts, when people are told that they can only wear nike shoes with nike pants, when people are prohibited from buying an oral B tooth brush with some Crest toothpaste unless they sign a contract where they promises not to use the 2 products together.

    Let the crazy come cause the crazy can't stay, they can just hassle us for a while.

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  13. Re:using other containers have same 'crime'? by back_pages · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Sure, but what if it is labelled "spring water"? Then if the manufacturer holds any patents on the product (which may or may not be related to the type of water in it), they can claim that your refilling the bottle with tap water infringes their patent because you violated the box-wrap license.

    No.

    Slashdot, the Fox News of Patents, has vaguely summarized a short article and omitted details that would significantly diminish the outlandish headline.

    You can infinge every patent in the world so long as you do it for your own purposes. However, you cannot do it for business. There's nothing in the article OR the licensing agreement that describes what you can or cannot do with the printer cartridge for personal use. Be creative.

    This judgement says that you cannot engage in the business of refilling "one use only" cartridges, which apparently includes selling your used cartridges back to a refilling company. I personally find that bizarre, because you could easily "sell your junk" to a third party, who "sells his filtered junk" to a cartridge refilling company, and enforcing this judgement would be nigh impossible. Regardless, this has nothing to do with how you use or refill your printer cartridges - for personal use.

  14. Please read ruling before commenting on it. by The+Monster · · Score: 5, Informative
    Anyway, the one-time-use is fine, you cannot remanufacture their cartridges.
    It's about nothing of the sort. As the lone voice of reason on the originating site points out, the case was not about the right to refill or remanufacture cartridges. Read the decision: [emphasis mine]
    The dispute arises from Lexmark's advertising of its "Prebate" program, under which it gives purchasers an upfront discount in exchange for their agreement to return the empty cartridge to Lexmark for remanufacturing ...

    Please read before opening. Opening of this package or using the patented cartridge inside confirms your acceptance of the following license agreement. The patented cartridge is sold at a special price subject to a restriction that it may be used only once. Following this initial use, you agree to return the empty cartridge only to Lexmark for remanufacturing and recycling. If you don't accept these terms, return the unopened package to your point of purchase. A regular price cartridge without these terms is available

    These are people who took the money, then refused to do what they'd promised to do. If you don't want to be bound by these terms, don't participate in the program.
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  15. Re:using other containers have same 'crime'? by Eric+Smith · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Slashdot, the Fox News of Patents, has vaguely summarized a short article and omitted details that would significantly diminish the outlandish headline.

    You can infinge every patent in the world so long as you do it for your own purposes.

    Wrong. There is no exemption for personal use. Here's what the law says:
    35 U.S.C. 271. Infringement of patent (a) Except as otherwise provided in this title, whoever without authority makes, uses, offers to sell, or sells any patented invention, within the United States or imports into the United States any patented invention during the term of the patent therefor, infringes the patent.
    If you think there is some kind of personal use exemption, please cite the relevant U.S.C. section. There is a limited exemption for "experimental use", but not all personal use qualifies. For instance, if I refill a printer cartridge in a manner that would otherwise infringe the patent, but do it to experiment with refilling techniques, that's probably exempted. But if I refill the cartridge and use it to print my TPS reports, that is not.

    It is unlikely that Lexmark will bring a patent infringement suit against an individual end user for refilling his or her printer cartridge, but that does not mean that they are unable to do so.

  16. I code Lexmark replacements chips by acidblood · · Score: 5, Informative

    and here's the lowdown.

    First, nowhere is it stated clearly, but I'm fairly sure they're not talking about inkjet cartridges but laser toners. These are the ones I code replacements for.

    The chip in question is the Dallas-Maxim DS2432. It's an EEPROM with a twist: it uses some cryptography to perform authentication.

    The idea is that the master (in this case the printer) and the memory can negotiate a shared key, which is done in the factory or during testing -- the chip doesn't use public key encryption, so it requires a key exchange `in the open' which must obviously be done before the chip reaches the customer. (Lexmark has done some ugly implementation mistakes in some printers but nothing THAT bad.)

    So this key allows authentication of both the printer and the memory. After an authenticated read, the memory must compute a hash of some data (including a nonce and the last page read) and send it to the printer. If the hash matches what the printer was expecting, the printer is sure that the memory knows the shared key. (Unless stupid implementation mistakes are made that open the way for replay attacks.)

    Conversely, when the printer asks the memory to commit a write, the memory requests a hash as well, to authenticate the printer. You may ask, `what's the point?' This memory holds data on how many copies were made, serial number and so on. If the memory just blindly wrote what it was told, remanufacturers could keep resetting the contents and reselling the cartridge.

    So how do you build a replacement chip? Easy, get the key somehow and implement the protocols used by this memory on a microcontroller. Using an off-the-shelf DS2432 is impossible because these things have serial numbers with a fixed byte (the `family code') which is different from the same byte in Lexmark's DS2432s -- they probably buy so many of them that they were in a position to ask Dallas-Maxim to make batches of chips with modified family codes. A little bit of security by obscurity, but that wasn't a barrier to us -- it took less than a week to reimplement (in assembly) the DS2432 protocols on my favorite microcontroller architecture, the Texas MSP430.

    Now, I don't like to get into the politics of this thing. Myself, I believe what I'm doing is perfectly fine and in fact the right of the consumer, EULAs and contracts and patents be damned. I wouldn't do it otherwise. Some people complain that Lexmark sold a discounted toner (called Prebate), on the basis that you would return it to them, and you didn't, and that's unfair. What they don't take into account is that your printer comes loaded with a Prebate cartridge, and with a small amount of toner to boot. Many if not most people just use this one cartridge that came with their printer, and keep remanufacturing it. The customer didn't have a choice in this -- if Lexmark offered a regular toner, or no toner at all, when the customer bought the printer, the situation might be less clearcut. As it stands, I see this as Lexmark forcing everyone to pay for a crippled toner, giving them no choice in the matter, and so they're perfectly justified to remanufacture it. (This might not be considered ethical by some, and is most probably illegal, but I don't care.)

    Moreover, the prices they charge are completely absurd. I know this is standard practice in the industry, but I consider this highly immoral. Very few companies possess the technology to make a printer, but many possess the technology to remanufacture toners and cartridges. By imposing legal and technical hurdles on remanufacturing, printer makers are effectively enforcing a monopoly, and the worst thing is, some courts are sanctioning this monopoly. The traditional analogy with auto parts holds very well, and many other frightening scenarios haven't been explored -- what if the printer makers agree on a policy of no longer manufacturing toners and cartridges for printers older than 1 year so as to force everyone to upgrade and m

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  17. Contract law... by da5idnetlimit.com · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1/I take the nice package
    2/I Biff the "1 use only" mention
    3/I put my initials on the correction
    4/I open the package

    Voila !

    I didn't accept this part of the contract, I dutifuly notified the other party the same way they notified me, put in the correction I wanted and authenticated it...

    Now, when I open this pack, Lexmark is legaly bound to the notification I made ...
    (Yeah, I know, this is stupid, but if it works in one direction, it should work in the other...that's the beauty on the juridic system : you can be two playing at being idiots...)

    Also, if they just put a patent on the "one use only" system, I'm sure the Condoms industry can come up with some prior art...

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    1. Re:Contract law... by PyroMosh · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, no. There are two types of contract for the pusposes of this discussion. The type found in an ELUA is what's called a "Contract of Adhesion". These are non-amendable / non-negotiable. They are "take it or leave it" contracts.

      I posted a little more info about this here, or you can google for more info.