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Why the Rokr Phone Is An Important Failure

An anonymous reader writes "The Guardian has some interesting commentary on the new iPod cellphone." From the article: "The music-player module works like an iPod - though it lacks the clickwheel that makes its big brothers function so slickly. But overall, the impression is distinctly underwhelming. The word on the streets is that far from being the revolutionary device that will bring about media 'convergence', the Rokr is, well, just the sum of its parts. And that, it seems to me, is the most interesting thing about it."

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  1. once again... by Doppler00 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    big business has ruined what could have otherwised been a great product. And why is that? DRM, restrictions, and feature lockout.

    Can't use the songs as ring tones? Just to appease the cell phone companies? Do cellphone companies really think they can continue to make money on a gimmick forever? Where's the creativity?

    How could apple fix this? The same way they do with all there products. Control the entire thing. I don't think partnering really works for Apple. They should have developed the phone themselves from scratch, maybe with a minor partner, not someone like Motorola. Furthermore, what if they could offer their own cellphone service and make something like downloadable songs over the wireless network feasible? I guess the problem with that is that Apple does not own such a network. I think Apple should give the iPhone another chance, and do it right.

  2. Storage not the problem by JanneM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    [sorry about the unfinished post]

    Look at the nano, it's got such tiny flash chips which are huge storage-wise.

    Storage size isn't the problem. There's no shortage of phones with a lot more than the 100 song capability of this one - including the Rockr. Note that Apple actually limits the capability to 100 songs, no matter how much memory you have.

    Which to me basically says that Apple does not want a phone with music capability to succeed, and this device is deliberately underwhelming, and an attempt to deflect that trend for a while. It goes under the assumption that people will want to choose an Apple device, and faced with a bad phone, they will choose an Ipod instead.

    I think that is a mistake. I use mhy phone as text reader and radio already, and I'd really hate going back to carry a separate device for that. I don't know what mp3 player will be my next one, but I do know it will be labeled as a telephone.

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  3. Had you read the article, you'd see it's more like by benjamindees · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1) Apple partners with Motorola to come out with a phone.
    2) It plays music and is a phone.
    3) Nobody buys it, because...
    4) Apple sells the songs via your PC, not directly to the phone, and Motorola still sells you the ringtones separately.
    5) Nobody makes any money.

    It's like AOL/Time Warner all over again...

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  4. Obviously this is a toe in the water by Infonaut · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Apple wants to be sure they don't get boxed out by mobile carriers, all of whom want to take away business from iTunes. Apple would rather not make a device that as others have mentioned, is a jack of all trades, master of none. But they're compelled to enter this market as a defensive move. If by some good fortune the ROKR takes off, they'll capitalize on it. If the carriers are all wrong in their bet that mobile phones will unseat MP3 players like the iPod (and I think they are wrong), Apple hasn't invested an arm and a leg in the venture.

    I see the ROKR as proof that Apple has become much more adept at business strategy than it was back in the 1990s. People have been screaming for a hybrid phone/iPod for some time now, and Apple has given them what they want. They haven't placed a huge bet on it, and they're letting Motorola do the heavy lifting (which is a long time coming). I say smart move Apple.

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  5. Repeat after me: by jstockdale · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is not an iPod.

    It is not designed, marketed, or sold as such.

    It is a Motorola phone, that has iTunes.

    It's not even designed by Apple for christ-sake. Steve Jobs called it "pretty cool". No RDF to be seen in action.

    The chief purpose of this phone is to be there before anyone else, license the iTunes software and patent rights (common, does no-one except me remember the iPod patent with an antenna on the side?), and establish Apple as jointly the first to market.

    The real news was the iPod Nano. Now quit bitching. And remember, if it's successful, there will be more to come (but not for awhile).

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