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TiVo OS Update Adds Content Protection

generic-man writes "According to PVRBlog, TiVo's new operating system update enables content protection flags on a per-show basis. On some programs, notably syndicated shows, a red flag appears to indicate that the copyright holder has requested that TiVo devices not save a program past a certain date and that the program may not be copied to a PC using TiVo to Go. TiVo users were told to expect this style of flag only on pay-per-view and video on demand programming, and as such are upset that TiVo has restricted the capabilities of the receivers they bought and subscribed to use. The TiVo Community boards have some screen shots and firsthand accounts."

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  1. Driving Sales! by AcheronHades · · Score: 4, Informative

    For some reason I remember reading that Tivo struggles to stay out of the red and that they are really not even that profitable. So why then would they add in a feature to restrict the functionality of their product and piss people off?

    There has to be something else here, this just doesnt make buisness sense.

  2. BUG!!!! by doormat · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is a bug on behalf of the Tivo software...

    See

    http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2005/09/c opy_protection.html


    Update: Jim Denney, director of product marketing for TiVo, said the instances of standard TV shows being affected by new copy protection restrictions likely are "false positives."

    Denney said the copy protection is trigged by a flag in the video signal. The reports appearing on the Web appear to be cases where TiVo misinterprets noise in the signal as a copy protection flag, and imposes the restrictions.

    "During the test process, we came across people who had false positives because of noisy analog signals," he said. "We actually delayed development (of the new TiVo software) to address those false positives."


    Apparently they still didnt fix the issues.

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  3. Different Account of it over on PVRBlog by beeudoublez · · Score: 5, Informative

    Read: http://www.pvrblog.com/pvr/2005/09/tivo_72_os_adds .html
    Quoted from one of the posters: This is a BUG!
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.ph p?p=3233152&&#post3233152
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.ph p?p=3236586&&#post3236586
    TiVo recognizes the Macrovision flag but there have been NO cases of a network or studio actually utilizing it.
    Even HBO whose websites says OnDemand stuff can't be DVR'ed... well, I could TiVo my OnDemand stuff just fine. I did all the time. That was before 7.2 and I don't have HBO any longer but it did work.
    Again - this is a BUG. Neither the local station or FOX intended for this syndicated rerun to be flagged like this.
    Are bug bad? Sure. But it's not worth getting all up in arms at TiVo about.

  4. And if you don't kneejerk... by FortKnox · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... you'll see that this was a bug found by someone using their TiVo over antennae, not cable, which could have distorted the signal.

    The whole macrovision flag is for PPV shows, not regular shows.

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  5. ReplayTV Tivo by digitalvengeance · · Score: 4, Informative

    I use ReplayTV and have never had any problems with content protection. There is even a great open source tool called DVArchive (at sourceforge) that lets one copy shows to/from the ReplayTV units and even stream content directly from the ReplayTV to any machine that supports HTTP streaming.

    I highly recommend both of these products for the geek who wants a great DVR and the freedom to DivX content at will.

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  6. Re:Relevant question by jvbunte · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.magicitx.com/ has a prebuilt MythTV setup with a small form factor for about $700, with options for more memory, larger hard drive, and remote. It uses the universally accepted Hauppage PVR250 hardware encoder (I own a 350 and a 150 and they work with all freeware pvr software I've found). You will need an external infrared sender to work with digital cable or satellite receivers.

    (I am not affiliated with magicitx in any way, just found a link to them on ebay.)

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  7. ReplayTV is better by waynegoode · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have two ReplayTVs. I don't have any of the problems you read about with TiVo--and I can skip past commercials, not just fast-forward. I don't understand why TiVo is more popular that ReplayTV. It is certainly is not as good.