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Apple Launches Video Podcasting For iTunes

phaedo00 writes "Apple has launched support for video podcasting in the Podcast section of the iTMS. Ars Technica has a decent write up of the news along with speculation on what this means in the way of a video iPod and Apple's recent application for a patent on the phrase 'iPodcast.'" From the article: "The quiet, fanfare-less launch (in fact, it's not even clear when it was launched) is a bit surprising for the company, but there may be a reason: there's not too many video podcasts out there in the wild. Furthermore, video podcasts are currently only playable on your computer, although it seems clear enough that a video iPod is on the way. If you didn't believe it before, you should definitely believe it now. For now, it looks like video podcasting support is limited."

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  1. Stupid article by technoextreme · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a freaking trademark that they used. You can't patent a word.

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  2. Obviously... by Otter · · Score: 4, Informative
    Apple's recent application for a patent on the phrase 'iPodcast.'

    Obviously, as the Ars Technica article correctly reads, they applied for a trademark on "iPodcast".

  3. Video iPod by theantipop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know the idea of a video capable iPod hasn't been too enticing around here as users complain of small screen areas. I have to say, however, that after purchasing an iRiver H340 and flashing the Korean firmware I love the ability to play video if the fancy strikes me. The screen is big enough to make it worth it to watch movies or tv shows on a flight (or on my lunch break).

    I'd be really interested to see what Apple can do for video on a portable jukebox. iRiver's implementation, while nice, seems a bit 'after the fact' so I know there is potential.

    1. Re:Video iPod by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "I'd be really interested to see what Apple can do for video on a portable jukebox. iRiver's implementation, while nice, seems a bit 'after the fact' so I know there is potential."

      All the modern *color* iPods (starting with the iPod Photo models) can do video based upon the abilities built into the chipset. Apple just hasn't enabled it.

      For video podcasts, I can't see why Apple won't enable it. For watching movies, well, that's a different ballgame. I think that will be limited to future iPod Video models with a screen equal in size to what we currently see with the Sony PSP. Otherwise, it would be rather ridiculous watching a widescreen format motion picture on a screen the size of my current iPod Photo model.

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  4. Some video podcasts are cool by ajiva · · Score: 4, Informative

    I find that some video podcasts are actually quite good. For example, Diggnation is quite good: http://revision3.com/diggnation
    as is Systm:
    http://revision3.com/systm

    1. Re:Some video podcasts are cool by centinall · · Score: 3, Informative

      Beat me to it. Here are some more.
      http://www.filefarmer.com/techshows/

  5. Interesting Comparison by Krast0r · · Score: 5, Informative

    It will be interesting to see, with the current amount of media emphasis (especially in the BBC) on camera and video phones being used in reporting stories and being "first on the scene", whether the podcast will rival the mobile phone with regards to use in media. Although the mobile phone is now ubiquitous, the ipod may be capable of recording better quality video and broadcasting it for everyone without the use of a new corporation.

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  6. Re:Article text by grub · · Score: 3, Interesting


    why read or write when you can listen or speak?

    TV was made for losers like this.

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  7. nothing new here by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is nothing new. I've been watching Prem Rawat's "Peace is Possible" on iTunes for a while.

    The Dawn and Drew show even had a little video as part of their iTunes rss feed.

    Apple already has a specialized "ipod videocasting" application - it's called iMovie.

    The "news" will be an iPod designed to support video playback right out of the box.

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  8. News to Rocketboom... by Myko · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Rocketboom has had a working vodcast in the iTunes directory since the start of podcast support with version 4.9

    I bet they're surpirised to hear of this "new" functionality....

  9. I think the writeup my be a bit misleading... by spyrral · · Score: 4, Informative

    First of all, let's have a quick chuckle over "Apple's recent application for a patent on the phrase 'iPodcast.'" and move on :)

    I noticed that iTunes could handle "video podcasts" in the last version (4.7?) and there's a little writeup of the capability paired with del.ici.us over at lifehacker:

    http://www.lifehacker.com/software/entertainment/h ow-to-find-and-add-media-to-your-itunes-library-wi th-delicious-110812.php

    Does it mean that a video iPod is "on the way"? Not neccesarily. iTunes has had the ability to play video for a while, and podcasting video is not much different from podcasting audio. Parse
      the rss, download the associated media, add to a special playlist. I think the feature was added as an afterthought or experiment: "hey, we can add a couple lines and support this!".

    The video iPod remains the white whale of Apple enthusiasts. Often speculated about, never seen.

    1. Re:I think the writeup my be a bit misleading... by generic-man · · Score: 2, Informative

      Podcasting is, at its heart, RSS. You can deliver any type of binary data over RSS. I've even seen Podcasts deliver PDFs which iTunes can store (it even has a little icon for PDFs) though the PDFs open in Preview.app.

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  10. Cringely on Apple's plans - July 14, 2005 by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 4, Informative
    Get ready for the Video iPod, which will presumably be available from more than just Apple.

    The overall discussion was about Intel/Apple, but it seems he called this one (at least the first part) right.

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  11. PSP support by didiken · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, Sony PSP can play h.264 video format. Okay maybe need some simple tweaking with the container format.

      Maybe this is something Sony would like to collaborate with Apple on?

  12. LOL Trolls and dumb mods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A brief outline of the revolution (if we can call it that) is as follows: from text, to audio, to video, to Michael Sims' high definition homemade anal fisting videos.

    Why don't you mods try reading the whole thing before you mod?

  13. Tech Review Graph by CrazyWingman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    there's not too many video podcasts out there in the wild.

    Actually, there is a very interesting graph in this month's Technology Review concerning podcasts. The graph shows the percentage of podcasts available by subject, versus the percentage of podcasts viewed by subject. Music is, of course, the genre that most podcasts are in, and the genre that most people view. However, erotica is one of the smallest genres by availablilty, and one of the largest by viewership. Porn driving technology again, it seems. :)

    1. Re:Tech Review Graph by diamondsw · · Score: 2, Informative

      Very interesting given questions of how porn drives technology. The article, and the graph.

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  14. Why so quiet, Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know the article says that video podcasting support in iTunes has been around for a while, but why on earth have we not heard about this before? I follow most of the rumor sites, and this hasn't been addressed, and yet it seems like the best evidence for the video iPod. This is the first I've head of this.

    I have to wonder if Apple isn't promoting this feature because they're not sure how to bill it. Without a video iPod, it doesn't fit well within their "package deal" of the iTMS, iPod, and iTunes.

  15. Bandwidth? by airherbe · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Audio podcasts consume large amounts of bandwidth for the host; not just from the content itself, but the constant retrieval of the RSS feeds from podcast clients, as well.

    Video podcasts using the same distribution methods would be highly inefficient. But, perhaps an combined solution using syndicated bittorrents would be feasable, like this guy proposes.

    // J

  16. If Apple was Smart by Solr_Flare · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They would release a firmware update that would enable video playback on all current Ipod models. This would boost customer loyalty, satisfaction, and increase sales of Ipods across the board.

    Then, Apple could simultaniously release a new "accessory" for the Ipod. It would be a line of larger portable screens. The screens could have some sort of dock(maybe on the side) that the Ipod could snap into and feed video out to the portable screen while letting you use the clickwheel for control.

    Doing something like this would give ipod owners a new "item" to purchase if they so chose. And, I imagine it would sell very well because now, in addition to entire music collections, you could have entire movie collections with an optional screen to get good viewing off of.

    Of course, later apple could release a "video ipod" model as well with improved video out quality and perhaps a larger built in screen for ipod owners to "upgrade" to when their old ipods finally wear out.

    It would be a win win situation for everyone and boost apple's hardware sales across the board.

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    1. Re:If Apple was Smart by bradbeattie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree with you that a video iPod would be an interesting novelty. However, your subject header implies Apple isn't smart, while their recent success would imply otherwise. I gather if they thought a video iPod would be profitable they'd go for it.

  17. Smart people already here... by borschski · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been noticing all the podcasting cognoscenti in Silicon Valley are simultaneously doing their podcast and shooting video of it. What do they know or suspect that we don't?
    • Former TechTV ScreenSavers host Leo Laporte, Patrick Norton, John C. "I get no spam" Dvorak and others are doing TWIT and just announced video is next.
    • Former ScreenSavers hosts Alex Albrecht and Kevin Rose at Diggnation are shooting video while they podcast and Kevin Rose is doing SYSTM
    • Robert X. Cringley's NerdTV debuts. Now you may be wondering, "So what?". It's IPTV...that's what. There aren't a lot of great examples out there yet, but most of the smart podcasters -- who are mini-celebrities or have something people would like to see -- are simultaneously podcasting and shooting video (many in high definition just in case). Read an article about a new report here.
    • Silicon Valley podcaster John Furrier from Podtech is embarking on video to augment his podcasting.
    Wired magazine has a great article discussing blogging + video = vlogging. While everyone's attention is on podcasting, vlogging is the next hot trend that has almost taken off. This Apple announcement oughta help.


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  18. I don't think it will take off by sveskemus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't think video podcasting will take off in the same way as audio podcasting.

    It's technically pretty easy to make a decent sounding audio podcast (are we going to have to call it that from now on?). All you need is a decent microphone to record it on, a piece of software to edit it with and you're good. Recording voice so that it sounds good and natural is easy.

    Making a decent video podcast is more demanding. I know good video cameras are getting cheaper and cheaper but no matter the quality of the camera you're still looking at somebody's home video unless the lighting is done properly, the sound is recorded by someone who knows what they're doing[1] and you're looking at a person who does not look like he's living in his mom's basement.

    In short, a lot more can go wrong when you're moving from just sound to sound and video.

    Commercial video podcasting may be interesting. It would be cool to get the news to put on your video iPod. But I think that will be made obsolete pretty quickly with some sort of wireless broadband and mobile phones.

    [1] Recording sound for an audio podcast is easy. You speak directly into the microphone. If you have to film the damn thing you'd better move the microphone out of the picture or get a contact mic. Otherwise it will look extremely bad.

  19. DTV / Broadcast Machine by believekevin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hopefully this will encourage even greater participation in the DTV / Broadcast Machine projects. Broadcast Machine does all the RSS work for posting video and DTV is a f/oss client that mimics the iTunes interface. Democratized video is imminent.

  20. Re:So what? by shotfeel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So when you get home, the news shows, sports hilights, etc. that you may want to watch have been downloaded to your computer, ready to go. Could be better than Tivo.

    Then, of course, it all syncs with your vPod.

  21. What this means for U.S. broadband by valmont · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Make better use of our home broadband connectivity?. I'm seeing few people addressing the costs and practicality of hosting all this new content.

  22. Tiki TV by barfy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Get Itunes, go to podcasts search on Tiki. Watch Tiki TV. Try episode 8 first then go find the rest. AWESOME!

  23. Re:Little Zonky by putko · · Score: 2, Informative

    Notice how I got "-1 Flamebait" for pointing out that Zonk screwed up for the bazillionth time?

    This is exactly the sort of thing that makes one want to join GNAA or the jihad.

    No more Mr. Nice Guy.

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  24. Re:So what? by Lars+T. · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't remember you complaining about Podcasting - which is the same bloody thing for audio.

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  25. It's what you put on it by tentimestwenty · · Score: 2, Informative

    The key is not so much the device as what you put on it. Sure, Apple is going to sell videos and probably movies at some point. The screen is not really the limitation it's made out to be, Apple can design a good one. Most importantly, Apple is going to let people VidCast, which is the equivalent of open source TV. It will start with music videos from small bands/labels, but anybody can fire up iMovie and make a 5 minute video. They will just add an Export option which pre-formats it for PodCasting. No one uses the iRiver for video because iRiver doesn't offer all this nicely packaged content. Apple proved it with music and they'll do the same with video. They're becoming a broadcaster.

  26. What I would like to see... by cr0sh · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I would like to see someone create something akin to a "gargoyle" setup - wherein one wore a clip-on mount, lipstick tube camera attached to glasses, or possibly a wearable monocle HMD, coupled with an omni-mic and headset boom mic through a small passive mixer, with the video and audio going into a small wearable computer recording it all.

    This is all easily possible today, Steve Mann has shown the way, but I haven't heard of anybody in the video blogging community doing this. Even more spectacular would be if instead of recording directly to the wearable, if it was all recorded, mixed, and streamed via (illegally auto-tapped and legal, depending on the area) 802.11 across the net to a cam server of some sort - you could have a cheap and instant roving IP cameraman/reporter set up, able to go anywhere and report on anything, provided an 802.11 link was found. At the same time, it could record to the hard drive when the link is dropped or such, but the implications for indymedia coverage would be huge. We could actually have a good source for demonstration and other coverage that couldn't be destroyed by police action - indymedia reporters would have nearly the same freedom as regular remote camera news-crews do today, without the expense (albeit, without the quality either).

    Imagine wearing such a thing, broadcasting live the latest happenning in your local area, as it happens - for anyone on the internet to see. Imagine if your server capturing all of this auto-inserted paid-for advertisements, to offset you bandwidth bill and maybe also provide a little (or a lot!) of coin on the side. Basically - everyone could become an independent news (or other) broadcaster - provided they could set up the advertising deals and such.

    It would be an interesting thing to do, to say the least...

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  27. alternative videocast apps & bandwidth prob by panck · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can subscribe to video podcasts in iTunes, but I kind of prefer having a separate application to do it with...

    The best one so far is DTV (mac-only beta right now). The biggest feature this has that iTunes doesn't have is the ability to receive the video podcasts in .torrent form initially, and automatically download the videos via bittorrent.

    Unless iTunes provides some kind of automatic caching for the video files, having just a moderate amount of popularity could kill aspiring video podcasters.

    Another app is FireANT, which without the bittorrent feature makes me hate it.

    DTV also has a built-in directory to find video podcasts, which is pretty cool. They do a good job of making the process easy to use, although their beta is still a little wonky at times.

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  28. ViPods matter, on a plane, train or backseat. by crovira · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you don't want to watch the in flight movie, (its where entertainment comes to die, hopefully not taking you down with it,) you have a way out without having to blow the rear door off. (That decompression is worse than an MP4. :-)

    And its a democratic idea. The production values are shit (now) but the content doesn't have to be music.

    Educational videos (like one I had to watch on IDMS DB) can be downloaded to a ViPod and delivered that way, instead of a bunch of us having to sit and squirm through it, missing parts of it when we had to go to the bathroom or on a smoke or a snack break (or just to leave the room and scream.)

    And I like the idea that Woodie Allen wouldn't have had to spend all that money making some of his movies, wasting his time and mine with such banalities. Its not that they weren't worth watching but they weren't worth watching on a big screen.

    The 'pitch' wouldn't have to the money men in the same way. There are a lot of stories that are interesting but they aren't interesting enough to warrant the budgets, and so they don't get made.

    The ViPod is a GOOD idea. (And it would really fuck with the MPAA, like PodCasts are screwing with the RIAA by making anyone a member...)

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  29. video and pdfs supported for a long time now... by ptorrone · · Score: 2, Informative

    a lot of folks, including us over at make magazine have been putting videos and pdfs in itunes and the itunes feed for months now. the first one we did that is in our itunes feed is from 7/19 (http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2005/07/make _on_g4tv_th.html)

  30. Video iPod Obsession by Guspaz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There seems to be an ongoing obsession by the media and the vaporious "Video iPod". For the past 4 years the media has been claiming that a video iPod is just around the corner, and every time word leaks that Apple is about to make an iPod related announcement, the media starts reporting that it is without a doubt a Video iPod.

    I think it is time for the media (and public) to realize that the Video iPod ISN'T just around the corner, and that it may not be available for years yet, if ever.

    I don't think a video iPod is a bad idea, it's just sad that the media is in a perpetual "Video iPod coming soon!" frame of mind.