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Global Warming Past The Point of No Return
mad_goldfish writes "The UK's Independent is running a front page story today on a scientific report claiming that global warming is now unstoppable, after measuring changes in the level of ice in the arctic." From the article: "The greatest fear is that the Arctic has reached a 'tipping point' beyond which nothing can reverse the continual loss of sea ice and with it the massive land glaciers of Greenland, which will raise sea levels dramatically. Satellites monitoring the Arctic have found that the extent of the sea ice this August has reached its lowest monthly point on record, dipping an unprecedented 18.2 per cent below the long-term average." Either way, someone wins a bet.
...to have come out of the New Orleans disaster, it is this:
Perhaps the US Government will stop ignoring the threat of Global Warming as somebody else's problem.
Argh.
If only President Clinton had ratified the Kyoto Protocol, this would never have happened.
"I have never won a debate with an ignorant person." -Ali ibn Abi Talib
As long as Bush co. can make a buck or two, and as long as the americans can drive their SUV's today, who cares if their future generations will live in misery?
Who cares the rest of the world will bear the brunt of the fallout and will have the least resources to deal with crises brought about by Americans complete and utter apathy towards environmental issues?
Seriously, who cares? (as long as the americans can maintain their lifestyle at the expense of the rest of the globe)
Then again why should we take the opinion of a bunch of people foolish enough to live below sea level, and right on the cost.
I'm glad you mentioned this, I was about to bring it up myself: 'Greenland' isn't just a fancy name for an ice sheet- in the not-so-distant past (around 1100 yrs ago) it was a fertile green crop-producing place.
Also, what causes us to go into and out of ice ages in general? There wasn't anyone around to expel CO2 to 'heat up the world' during the last ice age, so obviously there are some natural warming processes as well, so what's going on there?
But please everyone don't let me get in the way of the emptyheaded Bush/America bashing... Oh yeah, I'll just say it first; "Kerry Rules!! If he'd been elected there wouldn't be any wars or hurricanes or global warming or anything! We'd be living in an 0rgasmic utopia of everyone loving everyone! Tolerance of people whose ideas we already agree with would reign! Yayy Islam! Christianity sucks! etc. etc." Did I forget anything?
Are you blaming Katrina on global warming?
Wow, liberals are dumber than I thought. Either that or global warming has been happening sense well before recorded history.
Hurricanes are not a new thing.
Paying taxes to buy civilization is like paying a hooker to buy love.
Scientists at the height of the ice age said that the planet was past the point of no return, and it was going to turn into a huge ball of ice.
Funny, huh?
The one thing to note is that most scientists are *not* brilliant. They have PhDs, but that really means nothing. It just means they dedicated certain amount of time to a particular field, but it doesn't mean they're smart.
Just like movie stars who extend themselves past the realm of entertainment into politics where they look like fools, the stupid scientists are the ones that try to put a spin on their findings, like "we are past the point of no return." What a load of bullshit.
"Err, I don't know..."
anything about this subject. Or
when to keep your mouth closed because you're ignorant. Or
that if you post something completely factually incorrect that you appear to be a fool.
Any of those are beeter than yours, take your pick.
The politically oriented ones are by and large on the far right. Notice there is no-one denying global warming outside america? That's because the US is the only place you get that kind of ultra-right-wing every-man-for-himself politics.
I am trolling
According to wikipedia...
Is it just me, or does anyone else get a small case of the hives when that's how a comment starts? Of course, people who say that hopefully mean, "According to a person who posted something on Wikipedia, and the persistent people who agree with him..." - but it's looking more and more as though people are treating that overgrown blog like a credibly peer-reviewed, scientific-method-powered, authoritative entity that has collected The Truth And Facts on... everything.
Of course, there's no reason not to trust a web site that also profiles porn stars, fishing lures, bad sitcoms, acne, beer brewing, and the history of toenail clippers as an indisputable source of climatalogical analysis. Oh wait, yes there is.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
Yes, but can you re-write the flamewar in any other language than BASIC? That invites a flame war in-and-of itself.
Let's see the flame war in your favorite programming language, Slashdotters!
What those who want activist courts fear is rule by the people.
Flamebate? I don't think so.
That would, indeed, be a good way to kill yourself.
Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
Next thing these people are going to say is that a devastating hurricane will destroy the city of New Orleans.
Scientists don't know anything. Evolution is a fraud.
Excuse me while I climb back into my pool of slime.
>> "Behold! Moon goddess is eating the sun god....
The difference is we now have empirical measurements that prove beyond a doubt that humans (mostly N.American humans) are directly responsible for global waming.
The real problem is that most Americans won't listen to the facts because it means they'll have to change their lifestyles.
And stop this incessant whining aboout global warming.
No offense, but you are either stupid or a neocon. The second the UN tries to pass a tax law is the same second that the US and pile of other countries pull out of the UN and effectivly destroy it. There is not a sane president in the world that would give an orginization where fucking CHINA and RUSSIA have veto power the ability to tax the US. Who would advocate something so utterly foolish? Either a neocon trying to destroy the UN, or a complete and utter idiot. I have a feeling you are not the former.