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Opera Free as in Beer

nekura writes "Just last month, Opera was celebrating their 10 year anniversary by giving away free registration codes; now they've trumped that by offering Opera for free. Quoth their site, 'Opera has removed the banners, found within our browser, and the licensing fee. Opera's growth, due to tremendous worldwide customer support, has made todays milestone an achievable goal. Premium support is available.' Anyone who was on the verge of switching before now has virtually no reason not to."

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  1. Torrents by BrianJOpera · · Score: 5, Informative

    torrents
    save the servers :P

  2. Re:My reasons for not switching. by hkmwbz · · Score: 5, Informative
    Most of those are either available outside the browser (notifiers, etc.), or possible to do in Opera in some way (User JS to convert links in plain text files, built-in searches are there already, etc.). Greasemonkey is just the Firefox equivalent of User JS in Opera. It's rather easy to add a button to Opera which gets a BugMeNot login for the current page, too. As an example.

    Just FYI.

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  3. Re:Free is good... by nicomen · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you have bought a license during the last 30 days I think you are entitled to a refund.

    You still get premium support if you have registered. Some people value that much more than removal of 40 pixels of ads :-)

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  4. Some info on their new revenue model by ziggamon2.0 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Cut and paste from their investors FAQ:
    1. Search partners
    The Opera Browser features integrated search and shopping bars, and partner companies pay a fee to Opera every time a user utilizes the integrated search or shopping bar. Opera cooperates with a few select partners it feels can contribute value to its product and users. Deals with companies like Google, Fast, Lycos, InfoSeek, Yahoo, Amazon, and eBay are showing constant growth in revenues for Opera.

    2. Rendering engine as a separate product
    Opera delivers a full-featured, embeddable version of its desktop browser that can be integrated into a wide range of applications. Adobe and Macromedia are important partners in this segment.

    3. Opera Web Mail
    Opera provides a free and a pay service Webmail. When users pay for the premium service, Opera splits the revenue with Outblaze, the company that operates the service.

    It seems to me they have made a very wise choice. Being ad-free will increase the popularity of the browser tremendously, and thereby increase their incomes from sponsored search partners, like Google, which will probably more than compensate for their incomes from the paid browser, and annoying ads.
  5. Re:My reasons for not switching. by Kimos · · Score: 4, Informative
  6. Re:Free is good... by d3bruts1d · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yup... Opera has stated in the IRC, Blog, and forums that if you purchased Opera in the last 30 days you can get a full refund. I've purchased Opera no less than 5 times over the years (home, work, family, new version, etc.) and still I don't have an issue with Opera now releasing the product as free. I'll continue to support the product and the company. I like doing that for quality software.

  7. Re:Good by It+doesn't+come+easy · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to Opera, their revenue was equally split between advertising, the fee, and search engines (not sure what this is -- does Opera run their own search engine?). Considering that no more than 3% of Opera users ever paid the fee, and considering you can still pay for premium support, it doesn't sound like it will take much to make up the difference. I, for example, never tried Opera becuase of the fee. Now I will install it and use it or Firefox, depending on which one gives the best experience (IE lost any chance of consideration as long as it is the security problem that it is -- and as far as I can see Microsoft will keep IE tightly integrated into the OS and thereby maintain it as the premium vector for security issues in Windows. It's bad enough I can't remove it, I'm surely not going to use it). I would bet that many others will do the same for Opera.

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  8. Re:Can someone please explain to me... by simetra · · Score: 5, Informative
    • pop-up blocker, mouse gestures, etc, built in; no need to download/trust/install extensions from god knows who
    • changing settings, you don't need to close and re-open it every bloody time
    • built-in IRC client
    • built-in email client
    • built-in bit torrent client
    • highly-configurable thru gui, not through text file hacks
    • produced by an actual company with an actual interest in quality moreso than freedom/clunky-breakiness

    These are the main reasons I can think of, besides the features that are probably common to Opera and Firefox, such as being very fast (I didn't use FF long enough to tell if it was as fast as Opera), having community-built themes, etc.

    Basically, it comes "out of the box" ready to go and requires much, much, much less dicking around with to get it Just The Way I Like. This is really important to actual users, believe it or not.
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  9. Re:Can someone please explain to me... by adolfojp · · Score: 5, Informative

    Imagine Firefox with most of its plugins in a smaller, more responsive package, and not feeling that you are using a Frankenbrowser.

    Now imagine being able to disable any page's design so that you can improve readability. Also imagine being able to store a number of pages in sessions instead of individual bookmarks. Imagine a button that stores the links of the pages that you have just closed in case that you want to open them again. Imagine true page zooming, a RSS reader, irc chat, and a gmail like mail client in less than 4 MB.

    Whenever I use anything else I feel as if I am not getting the whole internet experience.

    Cheers,
    Adolfo

  10. Re:My reasons for not switching. by porneL · · Score: 3, Informative

    * There are some AdBlock-like Opera hacks (filter.ini, user.css/user.js) or you can use external software, like AdMuncher
    * You can customize searches, google Opera Search ini editor.
    * BugMeNot, Nuke Anything and alike are available as favelets, which you can drag as buttons on toolbar.
    * Greasemonkey is built-in, known as UserJS and Opera software maintains scripts that fix many lame websites (IEisms, NN4-era menus, etc).
    * Plain Text Links = doubleclick, choose "go to url".

    Plus you may find some unique features that will keep you from using Firefox :)

  11. Re:No reason? I think not. by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Free" has two meanings. The first is free as in cost. Free beer is an example where free means "costs nothing", so some people use this as a shorthand explanation. The other meaning is free in the sense of freedom. i.e. Unrestricted. Free Speech is free in this way, so some people say free as in speech to illustrate they mean this definition.

    Software is free in either of these ways. Internet Explorer is free to download so is free as in cost (Free as in Beer). Linux is free to copy and modify, so it's free in the sense of freedom (Free as in speech).

    It also has certain positive connotations that many free software advocates like. Free speech is regarded as a good thing. Associating free software with free speech gives it a positive image.

    Hope this helps.

  12. Re:My reasons for not switching. by sznupi · · Score: 5, Informative
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  13. Re:Can someone please explain to me... by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Informative

    built-in IRC client
    built-in email client
    built-in bit torrent client


    With a total size at around 5 MB, by the way.

    And also a smaller memory footprint it seems from some quick testing.

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  14. Re:Can someone please explain to me... by slapout · · Score: 4, Informative

    See 30 Days to Becoming an Opera7 Lover

    Opera does a lot more than most people realize.

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  15. Re:Can someone please explain to me... by Fweeky · · Score: 4, Informative

    "built-in bit torrent client"

    This is still only in the 8.10/8.02 previews, right? I don't see it in the changelogs or feature lists for 8.50.

  16. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I can't let this pass. The first free browser was WorldWideWeb in 1991 from none other than T. Berners-Lee himself.

    Cello also predates Netscape.

  17. Re:Good by packman · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have a P910i, and Opera is supplied on CD. It's a rather big application (2/3mb if I recall well) after being installed. For a symbian phone, that's big, so I can understand they choose not to by default.
    They can't strip out the "default" symbian browser cause that's rather integrated and heavily used in the UIQ interface. Opera will however be the default browser on UIQ 3.0 platforms where it will replace the symbian browser.

  18. Re:What merits? by masklinn · · Score: 5, Informative
    I had great hopes for Opera, so I'm the more bitter about how they, IMO, misprioritized development. In comparison, the FireFox team did everything right. It took a few years waiting for Mozilla to come around, but now it's here and it's solid, while Opera isn't even small or fast any longer. Too bad.

    As much as I love Firefox, using it as my main browser and all, that has to be corrected.

    • Opera's installer is lighter than Firefox's
    • Opera takes about 20% of the memory a regular Firefox takes, and if you use firefox for a few hours on content-filled website you'll end with the fox hogging 200Mb of RAM while Opera will still be far under 50Mb
    • Opera's javascript engine is about 15-20 times faster than Gecko's
    • Standards support of Opera is comparable to that of Gecko.

    Opera is still lighter than Firefox, and still faster, by a far margin.

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  19. Re:Good by Matthew+Bafford · · Score: 3, Informative
    Where's the Firefox extension that does this, and also lets me search from the address bar by adding a short name as a prefix to the search word
    That's a built in feature. Try it - go g firefox quick search from address bar. It should search Google by default.
  20. Re:Can someone please explain to me... by cgenman · · Score: 5, Informative

    As an avid Opera user, and a fan of Firefox, they can similar to a light or average user. I'll assume here that you're familiar with both.

    I like to think of Opera as a highly configurable tool for heavy users who like to get their hands dirty with their tools, and Firefox for everyone else. Opera is highly configurable, has nice data semi-permanence features, and there are a million advanced options that speed up use for people willing to learn about what it can do.

    If you don't like where the menu bar is, you can move it to the bottom of the screen, or to the sides, or you can move the buttons to a different bar, or move the buttons from other bars to that one. You can liberally re-arrange everything about the interface to suit your particular tastes, and can add and remove buttons and functionality as you please. I've seen people who have all of the functionality of the browser on a single pop-up address bar on the side of the window, and others that spread everything around onto dozens of little areas.

    And there are quick and easy buttons available in the interface for everything: from zooming to above 100% to changing your "identify as" to toggling javascript. Basically all of these behave intelligently. If you hold the zoom drop-down button you get a standard drop-down menu to select the zoom resolution you want, and if you click on it, it automatically resets to 100%. And you move buttons by simply grabbing and moving them, which is very easy and convienient.

    If you're comfortable editing a simple menu.ini file, you can add or subtract menu options. As a real-world example, you can add menu options for "open in I.E." "Validate HTML" "Validate Links" and "Spell Check" pretty easily to the right-click menu. While these can't be completely new code, you can pipe existing functions together in new ways to create things that do new behaviors.

    Unlike Firefox's extensions you can't add extensive code that doesn't already exist. You can, however, run external applications which seems to cover the extreme cases. But if I needed to code an HTML editor in an extension, for example, I would recommend Firefox as a base over Opera. But for nearly all other personal customization, I'd go with Opera.

    Data permanence is also a big issue in Opera. If you go backwards and forwards in Firefox, you lose any text you may have typed into a comment box. If you go backwards and forwards in Opera, your comment stays right where it was. On Slashdot this lets you go a couple of links back, launch a new window with the story in it, and go back forwards to what you were writing. It also caches the rendered page, so that going forwards and backwards is instantaneous.

    You can also undo closing tabs. I can't tell you the number of times this has come in handy. Unfortunately, comment fields are not permanent across tab or application closures, something I wish they would fix. However, you do keep your history on that tab, which is nice. You also have windows open across sessions. If the application crashes or is accidentally closed, you can re-open it with all of your tabs still in place, and can still go back and forwards through their histories. Basically, Opera crashing is a 3 second fix, while Firefox crashing requires tediously going back through the history figuring out where all of your tabs were.

    You can also save all of your open tabs or windows as a session, and can re-open sessions as bookmarks, on startup, etc.

    There is also basic psuedo command line functionality, in that you can convert any *.[space]TEXT into http://www.yoursearchengine.com/search?q=TEXT. "g footloose" will search google for the term "footloose". "z firefly" will search amaZon for "firefly." I personally have searches setup for ebay, friend's bulletin boards, language translators, and a whole lot else.

    The mail client was the first mail client that I know of to use freestanding searches as virtual folders, but tha

  21. Re:Good by Hungry+Student · · Score: 4, Informative

    Typing g automatically runs an IFL search, typing google runs a proper google search.

    You can create your own ones of these. Create a bookmark, edit it and choose a keyword. Edit the url of the bookmark and add %s where you want your search term to appear i.e. Keyword google.

    http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%s

    Now, by typing google slashdot opera into my address bar, I search google for "slashdot opera". An example of a custom keyword search is the one I use for searching the PHP manual. I have the bookmark set as http://www.php.net/%s and the keyword as f. By typing f mysql_connect Firefox opens the manual page for mysql_connect on the php website.

    For your image search, you'd want something like
    http://images.google.com/images?q=%s, and set the bookmark keyword to i. Then type i britney spears and thus, it will load.

    All very handy.

  22. Re:Good by Ryosen · · Score: 3, Informative

    I forgot to mention, for those wanting to change how Firefox invokes Google from the command line, nav to about:config, search for "keyword.url" and change the value to http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=, then restart Firefox.

    Anything entered on the address bar that is not recognized by FF to be a domain name or URL will be sent to Google instead as a standard search.

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  23. Re:Can someone please explain to me... by endoplasmicMessenger · · Score: 5, Informative
    One Opera feature that I'm addicted to: Undo on tab close.

    After having drilled ten levels deep into a web site I accidently close the tab. With Opera, just Undo and you're back where you were.

    On Firefox, well, lets hope you remember how you got to that tenth level.

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  24. The problem with opera... by netcrusher88 · · Score: 3, Informative

    is that they don't use standard keyboard shortcuts, i.e. F6 for jump to URL bar(FF, IE, Safari, Netscape, Mozilla), Ctrl-T (or Apple-T) for new tab (FF, Safari, Netscape, Mozilla). I have a friend who uses Opera and every time I go to show him a page I have to have him click things for me because STANDARD keyboard shortcuts DON'T WORK!!!!111one

    </rant>

    But I have to say, the built-in mouse gestures is a cool feature.

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  25. Re:Can someone please explain to me... by Fourier · · Score: 3, Informative

    FYI, someone did write an Undo Close Tab extension for Firefox.

  26. Re:What merits? by masklinn · · Score: 3, Informative
    point 2. Does not compute. Even after 3 days of reading slashdot the most I've ever gotten firefox* up to is about 90MB with 2 windows and 24 tabs open. Also, on a 'fresh' load of the identical 'saved in tabs' bookmarks firefox uses 12MB less RAM than opera. albeit opera is better at prolonged usage in terms of ram, since it rarely if ever goes past 50MB, while firefox can easily go to 60-90 MB

    Bare firefox doesn't cut it, it's stripped to the bone compared to Opera's feature. My fox, the one I want to use and that makes me keep in instead of switching to opera, has something like 40 extensions. These hog a lot of memory, yet are what makes Firefox superior in my opinion. Bare firefox blows, it's still slower than opera and doesn't have a tenth of Opera's features.

    point 3 Dubious claims... considering the entire interface of firefox is rendered by the gecko engine using java etc... perhaps on a slow computer, with low ram you could mamage to get 15x faster perfomance out of opera than out of gecko/firefox... but on the typical PC being sold in stores today the margin is going to be quite slim, between the two engines.

    XUL is based on Javascript, not firefox, and I don't give a damn about what you think, the reality is that Opera is faster in 95% of the DOM operations, and has much better optimized loops than firefox (proof of that one being that reverse-counting in a for loop yields 50% improvement in looping speed for firefox, and just about nothing for Opera). Try these getElementsByClass emulations if you don't believe me.

    i run firefox pretty well from a 'stock' configuration, no plugins, no extentions, just a browser. claiming that firefox 'easily consumes 200MB' is quite misleading, as only a firefox bloated down with dozens of 'feature extending' extenions will consume that much ram. hardly fair to blame the browser for the extentions bloated RAM use.

    Yes I can, of course I can, extensions and extensibility are what allow firefox to be above Opera for most users, without extensions Firefox is little more than a standard-compliant IE, the only thing is has being the JS console (which Opera has) and the DOM inspector (which opera, to my knowledge, doesn't have)...

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