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Under the Hood of Office 12

An anonymous reader writes "ZDNet has posted an FAQ on Office 12, plus a quick preview of Office 12 pre-Beta 1. From the review: Microsoft Office 12.0 pre-Beta 1 drastically revamps the interface layouts of Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Access. More than a year before the final product will hit the shelves, a pre-beta version of Microsoft Office 12.0 is revealing radical interface changes and user paradigm shifts that recall the overly ambitious Microsoft Office 97 update of the past."

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  1. Clippy? by Pichu0102 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Clippy? What have they done to you, Clippy? Clippy? Clippy? CLIPPY! NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

    1. Re:Clippy? by mrjb · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unlike the late Clippy, a ghostly text-formatting toolbar hovers near your cursor; it fades or darkens in response to your mouse movements. Right-clicking a mouse will reveal the same task-specific menu choices as offered in the masthead banner. (cues creepy music) I see dead Clippies...

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    2. Re:Clippy? by hrm · · Score: 5, Funny

      So now Clippy will give birth to two children (staples?), one of which will cause Ballmer to turn on Gates and restore balance to the source?

      Interesting times ahead...

  2. Competition driving innovation by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...or the appearance of innovation, anyway.

    Interesting tightrope Microsoft is being forced to walk here...if they don't change things enough, they still have OpenOffice and StarOffice nipping at their heels, but if they change too much, they risk alienating their established user base.

    The real question is: Just how much can you improve an office suite, before it's 'good enough'? Many Office users (my employers included) feel Office 2003 is just fine, and have no plans whatsoever for Office 12. Other offices I've seen have standardized on Offive XP, or even Office 2000, and steadfastly refuse to upgrade. When these holdouts finally do upgrade, it's only because they are having issues with using documents from other facilities that are in the new format (non-backward-compatible by design...thank you so much, Bill), and when they do, they commonly skip at least one release.

    The bottom line is that the strategy of staying out ahead of competitors like OpenOffice and StarOffice is becoming increasing untenable as the office suite becomes more and more complex and capable, and closer and closer to the ideal of 'good enough' for the average user.

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    1. Re:Competition driving innovation by utnow · · Score: 5, Informative

      I installed OOo a few days ago for the express purpose of never having to deal with office again. I REALLY REALLY wanted it to be good. Sadly, I uninstalled it less than 5 minutes later. It's come a long way, but side-by-side with Office... well you get what you pay for.

      And to head all of the jokes about bugs that I'm paying for, I'm saying that Office is better.

  3. Nothing beats Office 97 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing will ever top Office 97 for what it brought the table when it came out. They made it too good - several versions later and most people probably can't tell the difference, except for Outlook, which has changed more than the other apps in the suite. Is it possible that we don't need new versions of Office coming out every couple years anymore?

  4. Awesome new feature!! by coolGuyZak · · Score: 5, Funny
    You'll be able to make changes to attributes such as font style and watch your document transform in real time

    This has got to be the most innovative thing to come out of Microsoft in years.

  5. Whooosh! by Coimhad+fearg+fhear · · Score: 5, Funny

    As long as the new version of Office allows you to use that cool "Whoooshing" noise between slides in Powerpoint I'll be happy.
    Not that I ever use Powerpoint, honest...

  6. This will call for extra training by bogaboga · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The radical change that M$ is introducing in Office 12 will call for training. I vividly remember what effect Office 95 had on our users.

    The trouble here is that more of technology pundits will not see this requirement as an additional cost burden at all! So when it comes to comparing Office 12 to StarOffice/OpenOffice.org, assumptions will be made that those using M$ products already have the training.

    StarOffice/OpenOffice.org programmers could capitalize on this, save companies the trouble or burden of training. This is not to mention licensing costs not forgetting closed and changing formats.

  7. Re:RIP by Alranor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Personally I don't want clippy to RIP.

    I want it to suffer eternal torment in the fires of silicon hell, where daemons will flay it continally until the end of time.

    "It looks like you're trying to inflict agonies beyond belief on me, would you like so.... aaargh, no, no, stop with the poker! Anything but the poker, pleeeaase!"

    But that's just me.

  8. Screenshots by neosake · · Score: 5, Informative

    Definitely, check out these screenshots, I mean I haven't tried it but this ribbon thingy doesn't strike me as intuitive as the menu paradigm we're used to.

    Microsoft's Screenshot
    Zdnet series of screenshots

    Plus it takes loads of screen real-estate.

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  9. Re:Why exactly is it called Office 12? by timster121 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe someone should point out to them that missing 13 doesn't make it any less Office 13.

    Obligatory Mitch Hedburg:

    "My hotel doesn't have a 13th floor because of superstition. But people on the 14th floor, you know what floor you're really on.!"

    "If 13 is an unlucky number, then 12 and 14 are guilty by association."

  10. Upgrade Cost by saddino · · Score: 5, Funny

    What will it cost?
    Microsoft hasn't yet specified.


    Translation: prepared to be raked over the coals for failing to upgrade from Office 97 for all these years. You don't think those dinosaur ads pay for themselves do you?

  11. Undo past save? by JPyObjC+Dude · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I personally will not install any Beta microsoft product so I cannot verify.

    Does anybody know if they finally have undo past savepoints.

    Because of my experience with MSO (been using since Excel 4.0) is that it is best to save the document ALL the time else the app will crash and you will loose hours of work. BUT when you save, you loose the undo history :[

    MSO up to now has never had this feature (bad programmers BAD).

    BTW - OOo has this feature in 2.0 :]

    God I love open source

    JsD

  12. Pushing Vista by Murgatroyd · · Score: 5, Funny
    My favorite part of the FAQ:
    Will Office 12 require Windows Vista?
    No. Although there were some initial plans to more tightly couple the new products, they will work independently of one another. There may be some features that "light up" only when a user is running Vista, however.
    Like... oh, maybe, "Save Document"?